Linux-Advocacy Digest #339, Volume #33 Wed, 4 Apr 01 05:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Things Linux can't do! (GreyCloud)
Re: Baseball ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Alex
Chaihorsky")
Re: Baseball ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Baseball ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows? ("Ben")
Re: So IE5/Outlook/Outlook Express will all execute attachments ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Communism (GreyCloud)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Alex
Chaihorsky")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 04:04:58 -0400
WesTralia wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > billh wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > >
> > > > > PFC! Really big deal. You're hilarious. Stop before you make a
> > > COMPLETE
> > > > > ass of yourself. LOL!!!
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that is correct.
> > >
> > > You're a dolt.
> >
> > You're just jealous that I was personally invited to dinner at the
> > Theater Commander's quarters as a lowly PFC...and YOU'VE NEVER BEEN, EVER!
> >
>
> Aaron, your posting times and patterns have changed on me. Has your
> mom made you go out and start looking for a job?
False premise
Considering that I moved out of the house at the age of 17, which was a
long long time ago....my mother has no say in such things.
>
> --
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Things Linux can't do!
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:07:43 -0700
Dave Martel wrote:
>
> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:01:00 +0100, Toby A Inkster Esq
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I also know that I can kill Win98 by a careful combination of
> >connecting by WinModem to the net, forcibly killing (by alt-ctrl-del)
> >the dialer and then checking my mail with Netscape. It works almost
> >without fail and the only way to recover is by hitting reset. I think
> >even Gates himself wouldn't count this as a "feature". It's a crash,
> >although totally expected by myself, given the number of times I've
> >had to kill the MS dialer because it was hanging.
> >
>
> <www.autometer.com> locks up my Win98SE hard every time I try to
> access it using Netscape Navigator v4.08. I've got Netscape configured
> to ignore java, javascript, and activeX, but it shouldn't matter
> because my adblocker also removes all three.
>
> Is this any way to run an operating system?
Nope! The win98se is a joke! I'm now getting more help calls than ever
before!
GAWD I hope Sun or some Linux company will hurry up and make things easy
for the un-initiated user. (Those that don't have a clue that is.) If
the Gates bunch pushes their .NET stuff we need to be entirely free from
it.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:12:17 +1200
I'm just fiddling with my SUN, however, its not connected to the net. I've
got Windows 2000 loaded (please don't stone me ;) ) because I got pissed off
with Redhat. However, next week I receive a copy of SuSE Linux 7.1 and
Civilisation Call to Power, so I will be a happy chappy soon.
Matthew Gardiner
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:37:58 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >That sounds pretty stupid. For the record, I am not from the UK, I'm
from
> > >New Zealand.
> > >
> > >Also, that was the typical septic tank reply I was expecting. For a
country
> > >that raises their youth to only know what happens in Septic Tank Land,
I am
> > >surprised you don't have more problems than you do now. A president
that
> > >wants to screw the earth. A ex-president who couldn't keep his dick in
his
> > >underwear, high school shootings left, right and centre, KKK - created
in a
> > >country that promots "racial tolerance", Jahova Witnesses and Mormons -
only
> > >country that accepts weird, screwed up cults, I swear, I have never met
a
> > >New Zealander or an Aussie who is a Johava witness, and if I do meet
one in
> > >New Zealand, they are a septic tanks, still using imperial
measurements,
> > >which is quite surprising that you (Septic's), tried to rid yourself of
all
> > >things associated with the UK, except you missed that minor detail, a
> > >country whose population throws out 25% of the worlds pollution, cars
that
> > >are so big and chew through petrol so fast, I swear a hot curry would
stay
> > >in me longer.....need I go on further?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > New Zealand....a bunch of Australian wanna-bees. The only thing on New
> > Zealand worth anything are the sheep...and there's LOTS of those.
> > Can you say: "That's my Da-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-d"? Sheesh, you guys don't
> > even have a constitution...some thing you all wrote up in 1986 but you
> > still haven't enacted it. Probably too busy trying to get Australian
> > work visas. And what's with that flag with the little union jack in
> > the corner? Couldn't you come up with something original? Of course,
> > the only people with any brains in New Zealand are the Maori people.
> > All the europeans are a bunch of mongrol rejects from English
> > orphanages and debtors prisons. Even the Australians wouldn't take
> > ya. Man! You guys don't even have your own continent. Just stuck off
> > in the ocean on those dinky islands inbreeding with the sheep
> > and playing rugby night and day. And what kind of a name is Auckland
> > anyway. Can't you guys spell?
>
> I thought it was AWK-land. :-)
>
> He does have a point from anothers eyes tho. This country does have a
> problem... nothing that can't be fixed tho.
> The good thing tho is that Matthew does have freedom to express his
> thoughts.
> I wish he would express his thoughts on the Sun Blade 100 that he is
> working with tho.
>
> --
> V
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From: "Alex Chaihorsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 04 Apr 2001 08:11:29 GMT
Reply-To: "Alex Chaihorsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Now, now Alex...there you go...telling the TRUTH about these assholes
again.
>
Till the day I die, brother.
Alex Chaihorsky
Reno, NV
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:15:04 +1200
Still got "Dr Who?" on Television here, at 6:00pm on channel Prime, just
before the english comedy "Last of the summer wine"
Matthew Gardiner
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > Rugby is more than a sport, its a religion, LOL!
> >
> > New Zealanders love their sport. In fact, if you look at what happens
when
> > the all blacks win, the economy picks up, however, when they loose the
> > economy slows down, so maybe the US need a decent rugby, soccer and
cricket
> > team to help fix up the sagging economy.
> >
>
> I wish it was as easy as that.
>
> As an aside I liked the "Dr. Who?" series.
>
>
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:MNvy6.584$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >Ever played rugby? Ever been in the position of having a 140KG
Somoan
> > > charging towards you
> > > > >(and you're only 85KG), and being hammered when trying to tackle
the
> > > person? I also find
> > > > >it rather amazing how little Septic Tanks know about the world
outside
> > > the US? Did you
> > > > >know we have Televisions, Tree's, cars, computers, I know, its
probably
> > > has come as quite a
> > > > >big shock to you.
> > > >
> > > > <*chuckle*> Gotcha.
> > >
> > > Reasonably successful troll ;)
> > >
> > > I KNEW someone had to stand up and try to defend rugby. NZers are
mostly
> > > nuts about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> V
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:16:50 +1200
Mind you, their Haka is pretty good, it is just a pitty that their Rugby
Union team really sucks.
Matthew Gardiner
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "." wrote:
> >
> > > Well, in response to the guy who thought it was "all that" to have a
big
> > > Samoan charging them, I'd suggest that its worse if he's armored. And
> > > not being armored yourself is more a sign of stupidity than manliness,
> > > in such a situation.
> >
> > I'm not impressed by a big Samoan charging at me, although it would
> > certainly make me want to move the fuck out of the way at top speed.
> >
> > What I am impressed with is the size of the people playing rugby when
> > compared with the size of the guys playing American
> > football/gridiron/tacklehappy or whatever you call it. The football
teams
> > NEED all that padding to look big (exceptions, as always), whereas the
guys
> > who play rugby are usually akin to the brick shithouse.
> >
> > But I fully agree on the stupidity front. I think both games are fuckin
> > stupid. Maim the other team while attempting to get the pointy ball to
this
> > particular place.
> >
> > > It's like the barbarians whining at the "pansy Romans" with all their
> > > silly armor. You have a little game with a funny looking ball (so you
> > > can't kick it like soccer, I guess, as I can't see any other
difference
> > > in the games), we have a sport testing the brute strength, skill,
> > > cunning, and intelligence of a team of warriors.
> >
> > That's one possible theory, but I think the reality is that most of the
> > great thinking minds don't actually play professional rugby or football,
so
> > it pretty much turns into a brawn match... I don't think you'll hear
many
> > players commenting on what an intellectual match the Red Peckers vs the
> > Mighty Buttocks was.
>
> The last I heard when the NFL played in Britain was "Gawd they're BIG!"
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From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:19:38 +0100
If you want a free OS that runs most Windows software try Linux + Wine. If
commercial offerings butter your muffin, recompile Wine for Solaris 8 (free)
Ben
"Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
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> I was considering the reasons for windows dominance of the OS market and
the huge problems of
> getting developers for Linux, Mac etc. Linux is a solution to a different
problem that just
> happens to have been successful in some desktop areas. It's a port of Unix
to a Intel box pure
> and simple. The Mac OS developed before and simultaneously with windows
platform and so it
> fundamentally different to it.
> I was wondering if anyone has ever considered doing to the OS market
what AMD did to the
> chip market. Why not engineer an OS from scratch with the objective of
being as close to the
> windows platform as possible for application development? You could make
it open source and
> free and include Java and other cross platform API in all distributions.
> It would certainly be a big investment but their would still be enough
money in the
> coffers of companies like Sun and IBM to do it. Assuming that they had the
right business plan
> from the start. Which is to make it free for the client side and low cost
and scalable for the
> server side until you got a significant % of the client side market.
> If I could run a free OS that allowed me to run virtually all of the
software that runs on
> windows I would even think about paying for windows.
>
> Cat
>
> http://www.ratrobot.com/sport/sport.htm NEW THIS MONTH Would you cheat in
a $100 million
> dollar lottery if you knew they wouldn't catch you? This is the problem
with drugs in sport.
> How do we solve it?
> http://www.ratrobot.com/java/ratrobot_help.jar FREE APPLETS JARS EDITORS
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> www.ratrobot.com Articles that challenge your ideas about yourself and the
world you live in.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: So IE5/Outlook/Outlook Express will all execute attachments
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:19:16 +1200
Well, even though a lot of people give Netscape alot of flak, when was the
last time you heard an exploit this bad for Netscape?
Matthew Gardiner
"mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:_o1x6.524053$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This really does sound bad, even by Microsoft's own admission.
> If you run an email client that renders messages with
> MSIE 5.01 or 5.5, anyone in the world can run any
> program they like on your system, simply by sending you an
> email. You don't need to open any attachment or OK
> anything. Just click on the email and your system is toast,
> even if you only clicked on it to delete it.
>
> Exploitation of this vulnerability could easily give real teeth to
> the next melissa - type virus (of which there have already been
> several in the past year).
>
> The "Security Bulletin" (bug report) plainly states that this bug
> allows the attacker to "run code of attacker's choice"
> (arbitrary code). At least Microsoft was politically correct
> enough to consistently refer to the attacker as female.
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Adam
> Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think this tops the buffer overflow in Outlook/Outlook Express where
> > arbitrary code can be run on an unpatched Windows machine just by
> > sending someone a plain text email.
> >
> <snip>
> > Check it out:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp
> >
> <snip>
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:16:14 -0700
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said The Ghost In The Machine in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 03 Apr
> [...]
> >>If it weren't for the fact that I cannot condone "experimentation on
> >>live human beings", I'd agree with you about the Chinese scenario.
> >
> >I'l merely note that the US is a grand experiment, as well -- and has
> >been for 230 years. :-)
Hmmm... Back around the early 80's Ted Koppel of ABC mentioned once
"Democracy, The Great Experiment!"
I don't think its an experiment, but more of a test.
>
> The government may be considered a "grand experiment". The society, as
> far as I know, is as close to natural conditions as people want to make
> it.
>
> [...]
> >>Which devolves, I'm afraid, into the primordial ooze of philosophical
> >>consideration: does have a majority of citizens still willing to kill
> >>the rebels make such a government moral or just?
> >
> >Agreed.
>
> That's cheating!
>
> >>>I do not buy into the "let's get the guns off
> >>>the street" arguments of HCI, although I'm not sure how to reduce
> >>>the carnage at this time (ideally, the citizenry would shoot them
> >>>dead, or threaten to, and they'd think twice about shooting their
> >>>rivals -- of course, the gangsters might also shoot the citizenry,
> >>>but then other citizenry might step in!).
> >>
> >>What is "HCI"?
> >
> >Handgun Control, Incorporated. I'm not sure if that's a real group,
> >or a strawman created by the more rabid pro-gun crowd, but the idea
> >of HCI is apparently that guns must be kept off the streets, that gun
> >purchases should have a background check, felons should not have guns,
> >assault rifles aren't legal, they don't like concealed carry laws, etc.
> >
Hmmm... Handgun control... Drugs are illegal... what control?
On the black market you can get anything you want if you have enough
money.
Does anyone actually believe that handguns can be eliminated? They
can't even control the drugs in the US let alone guns.
> >I'll admit I could be misrepresenting their position, but that's
> >what I remember. On the surface, they seem reasonable -- but then,
> >so do _1984_'s "telescreens". Look further down and one gets a
> >nasty agenda -- does the US Constitution require that convicted
> >felons can't have a firearm, for example? (There might be a
> >court case somewhere; I'd have to look.)
>
> Certainly while they're convicted. ;-)
>
> But as far as the principle goes, we're back to ooze. Does a man have
> the right to "live down" his guilt?
>
> >>Personally, I'm as moderately radical in my thinking on
> >>gun control as I am in public education.
> >
> >It would seem that nowadays anyone who advocates gun ownership
> >at all is "moderately radical". :-) (Personally, I'm ambivalent.
>
> I'm more radical than anyone I've met so far. Few people consider the
> right to own a private nuclear weapon to be covered by the Bill of
> Rights. (To say it would be 'illegal under any circumstances' to use it
> or even threaten to use it is a different matter. As would the charge
> that wanting to own it under those conditions is evidence of mental
> incompetence. But the ownership of the weapon certainly shouldn't be
> illegal.)
>
> >I don't like the idea of guns, but recognize that others may
> >feel the need for self-defense and that there is no rational reason
> >to outright ban them; in this respect, my position parallels that of
> >abortion, which is another can of worms.
>
> And another one I'll happily treat as "problem solved" in my own little
> philosophy. Until it comes out of somebody's body, it's inside
> somebody's body, and that makes it *them* and *their's*, and nobody but
> that person has a fucking thing to say about it.
>
> As for gun control, it isn't a matter, I think, of a right or need for
> *self* defense. It is to defend the country against the government that
> is the purpose of that requirement of freedom.
>
> >In any event, if there are
> >no guns in the citizenry, what's to prevent the police, or any other
> >duly designated arm of the government system, from confiscating everything?
>
> Tada.
>
> >Admittedly, that's a bit black-and-white, but that's one reason
> >Amendment II is there in the first place, along with III, IV, V, ... :-) )
>
> Some say the only reason.
>
> [...]
> >>The only time it becomes delusional, or an indication of paranoia or
> >>paranoid schizophrenia, is when you believe that there is a
> >>consciousness behind this "attempt" to "seduce" people.
> >
> >I'm not sure there isn't, admittedly! Yes, that sounds slightly
> >strange, but I'm a believer in the "wolfpack" or "follow the crowd"
> >principle: "everyone else is doing it so it must be OK".
> >Of course, that doesn't mean that it's all that directed, or that
> >there's a conspiracy of, say, the Bavarian Illuminati running things;
> >that would just be ridiculous. But man is a social animal,
> >and we see things and copy them.
>
> I was at a seminar a couple years ago on philosophy and religion. An
> anthropologist spoke who is world-famous on this issue. His theory is
> that man "sees" such enemies for the same reason he personifies 'god'.
> The environment of evolutionary adaptation resulted in man taking for
> granted that if he notices it against the background of nature (if it is
> not entirely the same as what is expected) then he automatically assumes
> that another man did it, since the work of animals is always either part
> of nature, or hidden by nature.
>
> >One might call this a "meta-consciousness", or perhaps a societal force.
> >It's similar to the "forces" "driving" the stock market -- there is no
> >force driving the stock market (to be extremely pedantic, a force
> >implies that an object is impelled to move), but there is some
> >sort of aggregate consensus and/or notion to buy or sell. Why, I
> >don't really know; there are time I wish the stock market reflected
> >more accurately a company's predicted fortunes.
>
> Because lions and tigers have protective coloration, that's why. ;-)
>
> >I'd suggest this sort of thing lies in ourselves, not in an outside
> >agency. It's very hard to be an individual nowadays.
>
> When we consider our position to the world of objective relatively
> abject misery that all previous societies suffered, I'd say the only
> reason its very hard now is because it was practically impossible
> before.
>
> >>Its the very
> >>forces of nature which inevitably cause government to oppress the
> >>citizenry, and requires no evil mastermind. Whenever someone's
> >>political discussion requires a non-abstract evil mastermind (or an evil
> >>scapegoat), you know they're getting close to the edge.
> >
> >If one calls one's opponent an idiot, one has effectively lost the
> >argument. Unfortunately, this has two consequences:
> >
> >[1] If the opponent does not understand the sender's argument, then
> > the sender has failed to convey his case; the sender subsequently
> > calling the opponent an idiot may be a self-failing.
> >[2] If the opponent cannot understand the sender's argument, no matter
> > how cogently produced, then it's clear the discussion will evolve
> > into a less useful direction.
>
> That would only be the case if one called one's opponent an idiot *as
> part of your argument*. As an insult, it isn't an "ah hominem" attack
> on the argument. Spotting the difference can be tricky, but its
> possible. Double-checking the relationship between the arguer, the
> argument, and the insult is generally enough.
>
> I'd say that your assumption that a discussion "will evolve into a less
> useful direction" is second-guessing. Believe it or not, some people's
> egos aren't so fragile that they fall apart and declare a meaningless
> logical victory just because I called them a moron, or their arguments
> moronic, and we've gone on to have productive conversations, once they
> understood that doing either is not doing both, and the only insult that
> is necessarily ad hominem, and therefore prevents "a logical sequence of
> argument" (I think its a failure to assume this extends to conversation
> argument, but that is beside the point) is one that says "since you are
> a moron therefore your argument moronic". To say "since your argument
> is moronic therefore you are a moron," however, is not so unambiguous.
>
> >These are why peer review is important in science; the maverick is at
> >a bit of a disadvantage, unfortunately. (These also explain why I
> >try to refrain calling my opponents idiots. Sometimes, I succeed. :-) )
> >
> >>
> >>--
> >>T. Max Devlin
> >> *** The best way to convince another is
> >> to state your case moderately and
> >> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
> >
> >Looks like we more or less agree. :-)
>
> When the discussion is at the level where "peer review" might be
> considered a serious concept rather than a form of entertainment called
> Usenet, there obviously would be no place for insults.
>
> For all those who have become confused by my sig and asked for my own
> private interpretation, I'll be straight with you. Here it is:
>
> 'The best way to convince someone who is reasonable of your argument's
> validity is to state it moderately and accurately. For those who are
> not reasonable, your insults should be equally moderate and accurate.'
>
> At least on Usenet, thems the rules. Anyone who doesn't admit that the
> insults are part of the fun are lying to themselves.
>
> "I lick's ya cuz I can, and cuz I wants, and cuz yer the kind that
> lickin's good fer." -- Horation Hornblower
>
> If that makes me an intellectual bully, then all I can say is that I'll
> try to be a fair one. ;-)
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
--
V
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From: "Alex Chaihorsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 04 Apr 2001 08:23:24 GMT
Reply-To: "Alex Chaihorsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Rob Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thank you for the excellent reminder of what America is fighting, Mr.
Chaihorsky.
Rob,
If there is a way for me to thank America, to whose shores I came 14 years
ago, fresh out of Communism slavery, brougt up by the damn "village" of
other slaves as an atheist, poor, but hopeful, opressed, but optimistic -
for her justice without pity, generosity without handouts, kindness without
charity, equality without equalness - my way would be to help her fight the
most outrageous attempt to enslave her sons and daughters and put back into
bondage her ideals and hopes.
This will be a bloody and heavy fight. You have not seen anything yet.
Alex Chaihorsky
Reno, NV
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