Linux-Advocacy Digest #438, Volume #31           Sat, 13 Jan 01 15:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: You and Microsoft...  ("Mike")
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: you dumb. and lazy. (The Ghost In The Machine)
  Re: KDE Hell ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: KDE Hell ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux is easier to install than windows ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: you dumb. and lazy. ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Linux IDE RAID Cards ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You and Microsoft... 
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:15:28 GMT

"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
...
> On that, we can definitely agree.  Just this morning we were trying
> to find the NT equivalent of 'find . -newer somefile -print'....

Ugh. I'm still waiting for the day that "ls -R *.c", or "grep -r xyz *.h"
really work...

I don't know of any built-in NT command to do the equivalent of
"find -newer", but using Cygnus or MingW, you can build most of the GNU
utilities for NT/2k, or you can find precompiled versions in various places
around the web. One problem with something like find is that there's an
equivalent NT command, so if your path picks up the NT commands first, you
get the wrong one. Bad for inexperienced users, but not so bad for
experienced ones.

E:\dev\python>\bin\find . -newer proj.err -print
. 
./examples
./examples/pysyntax.py
./examples/test_recursive.py
...

Of course, this solves your problem for one simple case. You're still going
to be pissed, though.

The main issue with building the GNU utilities is the same as the reason
that the recurse options on ls and grep don't work. The NT shell doesn't
expand wildcards, and the Unix shell does. Thus, even if you recompile the
GNU utilities, they aren't written to handle wildcards, and most will barf
horribly if they ever get one.

-- Mike --




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:16:44 GMT

On 13 Jan 2001 16:37:02 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>On 13 Jan 2001 06:59:02 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>>>And what, pray tell, is "the standard PC architecture"? And if anyone
>>>gets to decide what it is, shouldn't it be IBM?
>
>>It is....
>>AT ISA bus....
>
>I see. So all those "legacy free" PCs are non-standard, and thus one
>shouldn't reasonably be able to expect to run (and reboot) Win98 on them
>without hassle?

One would assume so, but that is not necessarily true. For example,
Micro channel was superior technology to the ISA bus used at the time.
IBM knew it and so did everyone else in the world. Unfortunately, like
Sony Beta format, it was not accepted as a "standard" with the word
standard being defined as "what most people are using". This is like a
car which typically has 4 wheels. This is standard for a car. There is
nothing wrong with having 8 wheels, and if I were driving in mud in
the swamps of Korea, 8 wheels would most likely be better, but 4
wheels is still standard.

>I guess Linux' time has truly arrived, then ;-))

Linux does well with older hardware.
I have SuSE running pmfirewall on a 486 Thinkpad 750 which is a
486/33.
Win98, if I remember correctly won't even install on a 486 unless you
fool it with a setup switch.

As for PS/2's and Windows 98, I can't really say because I have never
seen one running Windows 98. Windows 95 yes, but not 98.

You could try booting in safe mode step by step (I forget what it is
called, but there is a selection for it) and watching as the drivers
are loaded to see which one is causing trouble, but honestly I haven't
had much success doing that.




>Bernie

Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:20:19 GMT

On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:10:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The
Ghost In The Machine) wrote:


>Offtopic: More than half of the US population, based on a survey
>done some time ago, can't identify Mexico.  (Hint: south.)

Based upon the Florida fiasco it doesn't surprise me in the least :(



>Exactly.  And that means that Windows 2000 is perfect for everybody.

No it doesn't.
What it means is that Linux isn't making any inroads on the desktop of
corporate America.

>Spot The Flaw.

There is no "one size fit's all" in the computer world.


>[.sigsnip]

Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: you dumb. and lazy.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:21:55 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:58:47 -0000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:30:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 12 Jan 2001 08:39:13 -0700, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>  MusicMatch ->  $19.99  (also available for Linux)
>>
>>The FREE version is only slightly differing in the speed at which it
>>burns CD's and is still FAR ahead of anything Linux has.
>
>       A CD is going to burn as fast as the hardware can manage, no
>       slower and no faster. If you seriously think that musicmatch
>       alters this, you are a true fool.

My HP 4020i (an old CD-burner) has two burn rates: 1x and 2x.
I seriously doubt that any modern equipment wouldn't support 1x;
MusicMatch might force a 1x burn rate for a freeware burn, which
means the CDs are burned much more slowly.  (But it is a more
reliable process. :-) )

Even if modern equipment doesn't support 1x, MusicMatch could
presumably inquire as to the possible burn speeds and perform
accordingly.

(Disclaimer: I don't know anything about MusicMatch beyond the
fact that it can burn audio CD's.)

[.sigsnip]

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- so it takes an hour to burn CD's; set it up and walk away
EAC code #191       2d:20h:44m actually running Linux.
                    This is not a .sig.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:27:29 -0500

Jim Richardson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 07:20:12 GMT,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  brought forth the following words...:
> 
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> >> All of a sudden,
> >> lots of Windows users jump on the bandwagon and say "I want to make
> >> Linux an OS my grandma can use", but they don't realise that it
> >> just wasn't designed for that
> >
> >sooo.. erm. what was linux designed for?
> >
> >and just to correct, as i see it, it isn't the windows users jumping on the
> >bandwagon - and that's quite a strong term for linux - as it is the
> >so-called linux advocates trying to force it down our throats.
> 
> Force it how? with advocacy posts? pretty broad definition of "force" if you
> ask me.
>  So would you say that MicroSof~1 forced windows down your throat?
> 
> >
> >then, through clenched teeth, we say -why do we want this when what we have
> >works so much better for us?
> 
> Use what you want. Read the EULA, it's interesting reading.
> 

The Office EULA is downright scary.  It basically says that when a document
or spread sheet or whatever is created with an Office product, the ownership
of the document (etc) is held by Microshaft, not the person sitting at the
computer.

For example, you are NOT allowed to view a Word document with anything
other than Microsoft products....thus, doing a hex-dump of a .doc file
with unix-land "od" command is a violation of the EULA.

I expect Microsoft WILL attempt to enforce this provision of the EULA
at some time...otherwise, why would they put it in.


> >to which the linux advos say -what? you are just too stupid for linux that
> >is all.
> 
> *some* do, most say, "so what? use what you want". Just like *some* windows
> advocates say stupid things, not all of them.
> 
> --
> Jim Richardson
>         Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
>         Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:27:59 -0500

Jim Richardson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 07:20:12 GMT,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  brought forth the following words...:
> 
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> >> All of a sudden,
> >> lots of Windows users jump on the bandwagon and say "I want to make
> >> Linux an OS my grandma can use", but they don't realise that it
> >> just wasn't designed for that
> >
> >sooo.. erm. what was linux designed for?
> >
> >and just to correct, as i see it, it isn't the windows users jumping on the
> >bandwagon - and that's quite a strong term for linux - as it is the
> >so-called linux advocates trying to force it down our throats.
> 
> Force it how? with advocacy posts? pretty broad definition of "force" if you
> ask me.
>  So would you say that MicroSof~1 forced windows down your throat?
> 
> >
> >then, through clenched teeth, we say -why do we want this when what we have
> >works so much better for us?
> 
> Use what you want. Read the EULA, it's interesting reading.
> 

The Office EULA is downright scary.  It basically says that when a document
or spread sheet or whatever is created with an Office product, the ownership
of the document (etc) is held by Microshaft, not the person sitting at the
computer.

For example, you are NOT allowed to view a Word document with anything
other than Microsoft products....thus, doing a hex-dump of a .doc file
with unix-land "od" command is a violation of the EULA.

I expect Microsoft WILL attempt to enforce this provision of the EULA
at some time...otherwise, why would they put it in.


> >to which the linux advos say -what? you are just too stupid for linux that
> >is all.
> 
> *some* do, most say, "so what? use what you want". Just like *some* windows
> advocates say stupid things, not all of them.
> 
> --
> Jim Richardson
>         Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
>         Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is easier to install than windows
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:30:31 -0500

Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> 
> "Lewis Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:93m7ef$ol5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> > Ok here we go, WTF do you need a USB mouse? that's as stupid as a USB
> > keyboard. Those devices have no need of a faster port than what they're
> > attached to. I hate all these devices they're attaching to a USB port just
> > because they can.  A camera? That make sense. a camera can take advantage
> > of it. A mouse?  please the mouse has not changed much in the past 10
> > years. What you need a boomslang?
> > NT can't use ANY USB devices.
> 
> I own a USB mouse.  I like my USB mouse.  Optical mice only come in USB, and

I guess the Logitech optical mouse with PS/2 connection is just
a figment of the imagination of those in Logitech marketing, eh?

... and also packaging...and the people who put them on store shelves.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:40:32 -0500

Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> 
> > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >> Jan Johanson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> SWC is not a web server. Get it through your head!
> >>>
> >>> AND, remember, Tux beat windows by a whopping 2.7%
> >>
> >> You got the order of events wrong. Tux beat iis by more like 250% -
> >> then, after months of frantic, all-out effort, the best microsoft could
> >> do is come close to the Linux result with their new "benchmark buster"
> >> product.
> >
> >
> > we're talking about the results in 2000Q4 - 7500 vs 7300 - do the math.
> >
> >
> >>> - woo hoo!!! A whole 2.7%
> >>> and they had to go into kernel space to do it.
> >>
> >> Nope, tux ran in userspace for the specweb tests.
> >
> >
> > Proof? Not denying, just asking for the proof, I don't see it in the specweb
> > document.
> >
> >
> >>> I have never seen Tux in production, IIS (and SWC) is out there.
> >>
> >> I've never seen swc, but Tux is available, for free - today.
> >
> >
> > SWC is available right this second from MS and it's resellers. It's been
> > available for some time, version 3 (which they used) is in final beta and
> > will be released March (after further performance tweaking).
> 
> Yep, it's a beta product.
> 
> Tux was running on slightly inferior hardware (slower hard disks)
> Linux still won by a bit
> All the Linux software is avaliable _now_.
> The software for windows is still beta.
> And after all that, the windows stuff costs more
> 
> So how on earth is the windows stuff better in this case?

you get to brag(*) to all your friends how much $$$ it cost....

(*) demonstrate how stupid you are

> 
> -Ed
> 
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere?     | u98ejr
>         - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies                   | @
>                                                           | eng.ox.ac.uk


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:44:22 -0500

Jan Johanson wrote:
> 
> lesse... backdoor unused the entire time it was closed source, it is open
> sourced, backdoor is unprofessionally spammed into the public domain and
> suddenly firewalls admins report massive surges of hits to the affected
> ports. What's a greater threat, the 1-2 guys that know about a hidden
> backdoor and given the total lack of any reported cracking of Interbase I

In other words...once it became open source, firewall admins became
aware of the problem.

For how long were these same systems being quietly broken into
while the backdoor was still secret?

Ever hear of industrial espionage?


> doubt they've done anything with it, perhaps it was a test access used
> during development and left in accidently so that even the programmers have
> forgotten about it - OR, as soon as it's found the nerds can't wait to
> spread the word far and wide to every script kiddie in sight. So... a
> useless secret or a public vulnerability - hmmm.... I would have had more
> respect for the open source "community" (what a joke, more like a cult) had
> they contacted interprise privately and issued a patch WITHOUT detailing the
> hole in public first.


> 
> "WesTralia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I don't ---- but neither does anyone else! What good is there to have a
> 100%
> > > secret backdoor? If no one knows it's there, it's not useful eh?
> >
> > It is an impossibility for a backdoor to be 100% secret.  The programmer
> > who coded the backdoor knows about the backdoor.  Depending upon what that
> > backdoor allows to the software and depending upon the particular software
> > the backdoor could be worth a lot of money to others.
> >
> > > Just like
> > > the Interbase thingy, it wasn't a security threat UNTIL the open source
> > > folks published the backdoor.
> >
> > It was a security threat the day in went out the door as closed source.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:45:24 -0500

Jan Johanson wrote:
> 
> "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> >
> > > What good is there to have a 100%
> > > secret backdoor? If no one knows it's there, it's not useful eh? Just
> like
> > > the Interbase thingy, it wasn't a security threat UNTIL the open source
> > > folks published the backdoor.
> >
> > Just because *you* didn't know it was there, does not tell you that no one
> knew
> > it was there.
> >
> > Abusers find undocumented security holes all the time.  There's no reason
> to
> > assume that this one was magically sacrosanct.
> >
> 
> Perhaps the complete lack of anyone reporting any interbase cracking is a
> clue here...
> why would it automatically be assumed that if there is a backdoor that it's
> 1) known to anyone other than the creator, 2) used at all, 3) perhaps a
> forgotten test login left behind and even the original author doesn't

Let's see....make a back door, at the risk of discovery...without
ANY intention of using it.
Yeah, right.



> realize it's there.
> 
> The fact is, it was spued into the public and only now are there script
> kiddies pounding away at the databases...


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: you dumb. and lazy.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:50:09 +0200


"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Wager failed.
> >
> > All of Windows 98's 3D functionality is in Windows 2000 as built in
support
> > through the Windows protected archive.
>
> What do you know, Google gave this as the first link:
>
> http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/6348.html

That is a driver problem, not win2k problem.



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux IDE RAID Cards
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:47:34 -0500

mlw wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Chris Lopeman wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone recommend a good raid IDE controller for Linux.  Preferably
> > > ATA 100.  We have tried using the Promise controller with limited
> > > success.  We probably want to run 2 controllers in the server (for more
> > > speed) with a total of 6 drives.  4 of the drives running raid 1+0 and
> > > the other 2 forming a separate mirror.  The 2 in the mirror we also want
> > >
> > > to boot off of.
> > >
> > > If you can't recommend a good one maybe you can let us know your
> > > experience with the AMI or Escalade cards.  We are considering going to
> > > one of these.
> >
> > http://www.research.att.com/~gjm/linux/ide-raid.html
> >
> 
> The link you posted was for software raid. There are a lot of pros and
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

oops.


> cons for hardware vs software for RAID, but in the case of IDE, a
> hardware raid solution makes more sense than a software one.
> 
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com


-- 
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