Linux-Advocacy Digest #532, Volume #31 Wed, 17 Jan 01 13:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Mandrake in VMware in Windows 2000 - HELP! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Mandrake and Diamond Viper - No Screens Found ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The Server Saga (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Some things are easier in Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What really burns the Winvocates here... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What really burns the Winvocates here... (.)
Re: Who LOVES Linux again? ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Some things are easier in Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Another World's Fastest Parallel Supercomputer running Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows - Is It Really Easier to Use? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:31:29 -0500
"R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Jessie James was considered to be a
> > > hero by most of the homesteaders and
> > > farmers in Kansas and Missouri because
> > > the railroads and banks exploited the
> > > homesteaders and appeared to be above
> > > the law. James would take a modest
> > > amount of money, but he would also burn
> > > the mortgages.
> > >
> > > The Dillinger gang and the Barrow gang
> > > were often protected by farmers and
> > > local who had already been forced to
> > > give up their farms and become
> > > sharecroppers because of the Great Depression.
> > >
> > > We now live in a world where cash is
> > > little more than "government green
> > > stamps", and the "Real Money" is the
> > > bits in the bank's corporate computers.
> > > We live in a world where SWIFT moves more
> > > cash in a few minutes than the
> > > government prints in an entire year.
> >
> > Scary, isn't it.
>
> Not nearly as scary as the fact that Microsoft has
> managed to convince a number of strategic banks to
> use Windows 2000 as the server to process these
> transactions. These are scheduled to be deployed
> sometime later this year.
I smell class-action lawsuits....
>
> No governmnet oversight, no FDIC actuaries, no
> compliance checking of the Microsoft code. The
> bank code would be regulated, but the Microsoft
> code could be running ActiveX controls.
>
> Sleep well. :-)
uh.....think I'll start investing in pharmaceutical companies...
specifically those who have patents on tranquilizers.
>
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> --
> Rex Ballard - Sr I/T Systems Architect
> Linux Advocate, Internet Pioneer
> http://www.open4success.com
> Linux - 80 million satisfied users worldwide
> and growing at over 9%/month! (recalibrated 01/14/00)
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Mandrake in VMware in Windows 2000 - HELP!
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:33:56 -0500
rnwalker wrote:
>
> I am pulling my hair out trying to get Linus Mandrake to run!
>
> I installed VMware 2.03 inside my Windows 2000 box, 128mb, PIII 500, ADSL,
> D-Link card. This is a stand-alone system in my home.
> I have installed Redhat twice and gave up on that. Tonight I did 2 installs
> of Mandrake 7.2 and I am ready to scream.
>
> First, during the install, it asked for the second CD and rejected that. I
> extracted the files from the ISO and burned them so maybe that is the
> problem and I can live with that. When it asked for the 2nd CD, I hit
> cancel and the install continued.
>
> When we got to the network part I said I had ADSL and the install started
> doing its thing. It got to the network card and gave me the following error
> "insmod'ing module lance failed at /usr/bin/perl-Install/modules.pm line 479
> No Ethernet adapter has been detected on your system". Bridging is enabled
> in VMware and running in services.
>
> During setup it asked for a root pasword and confirmation. I gave it
> "catlove". It then asked for a user and I gave it "meesha" as the user and
> "catlove" again as the password. I hit "accept user" and then done.
>
> The install said it could automatically log one user on at startup so I
> selected "meesha".
>
> After reboot, it waits about 3 minutes at "starting ADSL". It asks for a
> login that it was suppose to do automatically. I give it meesha / catlove
> and it logs me in and sits at the root prompt in text mode.
>
> What happened to this fancy interface? Is this VMware that is causing my
> troubles or Mandrake? Any help would be appreciated. I am sure as soon as
> I get this going, my problems will only have just started!
If you can't get Linux to run...how did you install VMware?
By the way, Mandrake is practically foolproof.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux Mandrake and Diamond Viper - No Screens Found
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:36:28 -0500
rnwalker wrote:
>
> So I did myself another installation and keft it simple. Installed the
> minimum (300mb) amount of components, no Internet connection instead of
> ADSL. During the video card install, the screen defaulted to no device, I
> selected Diamond Viper 770, this being the card I have. It has a TNT2
> chipset.
>
> After setup and first reboot, the OS stayed at the prompt after login. I
> ran startx and here is the message I get:
>
> (II) N; driver for Nvidia chipsets...
> (EE) No devices detected
> Fatal server error
> No screens found
> X connection to 0.0 broken
>
> This being my 3rd installation now, does this mean my video card is not
> supported even though it is listed on the install menu? What do I do next?
Try RTFM(*)
VMware calls on the installer to specify certain VIRTUAL hardware models,
NOT the actual hardware...this applies ESPECIALLY to sound and video cards.
(*) READING THE FUCKING MANUAL....
>
> "rnwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:YW996.111315$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am pulling my hair out trying to get Linus Mandrake to run!
> >
> > I installed VMware 2.03 inside my Windows 2000 box, 128mb, PIII 500, ADSL,
> > D-Link card. This is a stand-alone system in my home.
> > I have installed Redhat twice and gave up on that. Tonight I did 2
> installs
> > of Mandrake 7.2 and I am ready to scream.
> >
> > First, during the install, it asked for the second CD and rejected that.
> I
> > extracted the files from the ISO and burned them so maybe that is the
> > problem and I can live with that. When it asked for the 2nd CD, I hit
> > cancel and the install continued.
> >
> > When we got to the network part I said I had ADSL and the install started
> > doing its thing. It got to the network card and gave me the following
> error
> > "insmod'ing module lance failed at /usr/bin/perl-Install/modules.pm line
> 479
> > No Ethernet adapter has been detected on your system". Bridging is
> enabled
> > in VMware and running in services.
> >
> > During setup it asked for a root pasword and confirmation. I gave it
> > "catlove". It then asked for a user and I gave it "meesha" as the user
> and
> > "catlove" again as the password. I hit "accept user" and then done.
> >
> > The install said it could automatically log one user on at startup so I
> > selected "meesha".
> >
> > After reboot, it waits about 3 minutes at "starting ADSL". It asks for a
> > login that it was suppose to do automatically. I give it meesha / catlove
> > and it logs me in and sits at the root prompt in text mode.
> >
> > What happened to this fancy interface? Is this VMware that is causing my
> > troubles or Mandrake? Any help would be appreciated. I am sure as soon
> as
> > I get this going, my problems will only have just started!
> >
> >
> >
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:37:50 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:06:50 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <v_Y86.1681$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chad Myers wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> Chad Myers wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I wish you people would stop joining into the middle of the
> >> >> > thread and misquoting me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > He said that ReiserFS was shipping, which is a lie.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Shipping with SuSE" sure sounds like "shipping" to me.
> >> >
> >> >The 2.4 kernel was "shipping" with certain distributions for
> >> >trial a few months ago, did that mean that the 2.4 kernel was
> >> >released/shipping?
> >> >
> >> >Give me a break.
> >> >
> >> >-Chad
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> By certain distribution you are refering to the Caldera one.
> >>
> >> Nobody else shipped the beta of the 2.4 kernel.
> >
> >Actually, SuSE 7.0 has both a very recent 2.2 kernal AND a 2.4.test-xx kernel.
>
> Is that an installation option? Is 2.4 the default? Is there
> any warning given when you attempt to install it? Is it just
> an rpm you can use?
Don't know...I didn't buy SuSE 7.0...it's just listed on the box as having
both 2.2.13 or 2.2.14 and 2.4.test-whatever...
I'm waiting for suse to put out a 2.4.actual_release_number distro.
>
> --
>
> >
> > ...then there's that NSA version of Linux...
>
> This would explain the Mars polar lander problem.
>
> Kyle Jacobs, COLA
>
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Server Saga
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:31:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then why waste everybody's time with this?
You consider the problems I found a waste of time? No wonder Linux is
stuck on the desktop sidelines!
--
---
Pete
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some things are easier in Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:48:03 -0500
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > She said "I don't think it's
> > going to work. we only support windows".
>
> I can't tell you how many times I've heard that myself.
>
> I wonder how long we're going to wait before the general public breaks the
> association between "home computer" and "Windows"? For some non computer-savvy
> types, this association has been permanently burned into a hash table in their
> gray matter. Like I said before, if you average all the first-time computer
> users out there together, and ask them five things that comes to mind
> when the word "computer" is mentioned, I'll bet "Microsoft", "Windows" and
> "Bill Gates" rank in the top 3.
It's called "brainwashing"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What really burns the Winvocates here...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:50:10 GMT
On 17 Jan 2001 09:38:52 -0700, Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Linux ain't goin' anywhere guys. You might as well get used to it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You said it, not me.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: What really burns the Winvocates here...
Date: 17 Jan 2001 17:51:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2001 09:38:52 -0700, Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>Linux ain't goin' anywhere guys. You might as well get used to it.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You said it, not me.
You're so witty. Seriously.
=====.
------------------------------
From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:21:35 +0200
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A PII/400 isn't state-of-the-art by any means.
It's _way_ more than a workstation need.*
Hell, I used to do 3D Graphic work on a 133 + 16MB. And didn't saw anything
strange in having to do all the rendering at night.
[*] When I say workstation, I mean *work*station, anything aside from
graphics or games should be easyily handled by that machine.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some things are easier in Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:52:56 -0500
Todd Needham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Todd [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > >
> > > For me, when I subscribed to cable modem, they installed the network
> card
> > > and turned on the machine.
> > >
> > > I was expecting to have to configure *something*, but Windows 2000
> > > automatically installed the network card, *and* detected and configured
> the
> > > network settings, in this case DHCP.
> > >
> > > I didn't have to do anything at all.
> > >
> > > Now *that* is easy.
> >
> > All of which was pioneered in Unix/Linux.
>
> That could be true, but I wish it just *worked* under Linux.
It does, dipshit.
We are not responsible for Todd Needham's stupidity
> I still can't
> get my ethernet card recognized under Red Hat 7.0. And for some reason, it
> didn't seem to install sound card drives for my on-board sound.
>
> Oh well... I'm sure I'll get it working one of these days...
Maybe if you try pulling your head out of your ass.
>
> -Todd
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Another World's Fastest Parallel Supercomputer running Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:54:55 -0500
tony roth wrote:
>
> Within our organization after nearly a quarter of a BILLION dollars (that's
> right, a quarter of a BILLION dollars) invested in an IBM conceived and
> executed network (wan/lan) and computing infrastructure (utilizing AIX and
> top of the line CISCO switches) the majority (not the wan/lan) of the
> systems was replaced by an NT based computing facility. In terms of bang
> for bucks AIX did not perform well and was found to be somewhat flaky
> considering its costs.
Hitting the Thunderbird bottle a little early this morning, aren't ya
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows - Is It Really Easier to Use?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:58:40 -0500
Ilja Booij wrote:
>
> Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > All of the small, strange little commands that have to be memorized... is
> > > easier than Windows?
> >
> > Oh, I find typing the command that does what I expect is much easier than
> > using my mouse to navigate through tons of cascading menus and dialog boxes.
> > With unix, you're not restricted to mostly GUI or mostly command-line,
> > because you can mix parts of both in whatever portions you like. Take
> > me, for example. I like using KDE, because there's a lot of nice little
> > things built-in. But mostly, I find myself at the Konsole command line.
> > Newbies, OTOH, would probably fall back on the easy-to-use KDE configuration
> > tools much more than I would. So you see, you can make unix as GUI or
> > command-line as you please. With Windows, you're forced to use mainly GUI
> > apps. There's some command line tools, such as ftp, included with Windows.
> > But, they're horrible, and they don't seem to follow any set pattern. The
> > only aspect of Windows that maintains consistency from release to release is
> > the GUI aspect.
>
> One of the things I really like about CLIs: You can explain to
> somebody (either on the phone, or via email) which commands to type,
> instead of saying: No go left with mouse, CLICK, no make six circles
> and do a double backflip (don't forget to press the left button while
> you're upside down) and press again.
> just saying
>
> dd cp ~/files/foo ~/files/bar is so much easier
>
> Ilja
Better than that...you can telnet into the box, and open up a "talk" window
and type the commands in the talk window, and let the user cut & paste
to his command line.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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