Linux-Advocacy Digest #536, Volume #31 Wed, 17 Jan 01 18:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Giuliano Colla)
CALL FOR PAPERS for the OPEN SOURCE CONFERENCE 2001 (Simone Paddock)
Re: "Linux is no Windows killer" (Mig)
Re: "Linux is no Windows killer" (.)
Linux Opportunity (Jarrod Ditmore)
Re: Win2k vs Linux? Why downgrade to Linux? (.)
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (LShaping)
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Linux Opportunity (.)
Linux Kernel Engineer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: "Linux is no Windows killer"
Re: Who LOVES Linux again? ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance] ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance] ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: Another World's Fastest Parallel Supercomputer running Linux ("tony roth")
Re: Another World's Fastest Parallel Supercomputer running Linux ("tony roth")
Re: What really burns the Winvocates here... (Aaron Ginn)
Re: The Server Saga (Aaron Ginn)
Re: Linux Mandrake in VMware in Windows 2000 - HELP! ("rnwalker")
Re: Win2k vs Linux? Why downgrade to Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:14:51 GMT
Chad Myers wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> When you're done with your adolescent ad homonim attacks, please
> post a URL for a c't article praising MS for something.
>
Do you honestly believe that MS can be praised for something, except for
an unattained ability to violate all the ethics of commerce?
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From: Simone Paddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS for the OPEN SOURCE CONFERENCE 2001
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:15:48 GMT
Want to make all those endless nights hacking away at your favorite
Open Source language finally pay off? This is your chance to share
those jewels of code with your peers!
O'Reilly is calling the wizards, mavens, virtuosos and maestros of
Open Source to submit their proposals for talks, tutorials and
refereed papers for
The O'Reilly Open Source Software Convention
July 23-27, 2001, San Diego, California
http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon2001/
********************************************************************
This could be YOUR chance to talk about your work on an Open Source
project, show people how to use an under-appreciated program, or pass
on the hard-earned experience that others can learn from.
But not only that: it's also an excellent opportunity for you to
network with your peers and rub shoulders with the heroes, founders
and demi-gods of the Open Source community - plus have a ton of fun!
We are looking for speakers and tutors on:
XML
MySQL
Apache
PHP
Python
Mozilla
Linux
Tcl
Zope
PostgreSQL
For detailed information on submitting a proposal, please see:
http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon2001/call.html
All submissions should be directed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deadline for Perl Conference refereed papers is January 25.
Deadline for tutorials and regular conference presentations is
February 1.
As if you needed any more incentive, speakers receive complementary
registration to the entire convention. So get your proposals in now!
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Linux is no Windows killer"
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:16:51 +0100
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2675184,00.html
>
> My sentiments exactly.
Ahhhh... it is wonderfull when fellow geeks have common sentiments
>
> To quote from the article:
>
> "I am a geek by trade and I couldn't figure out how to perform simple
> tasks like setting the clock or resizing the desktop. Will some think I am
> a moron for not knowing how? Yes. Do I care? No. "You have to do it from
> the command line, why don't you use the command line?" Because I don't
> like the command line and neither does 90 percent of the population.
>
> [Setting the clock is easy, even for me: it's the command 'date'. Resizing
> the desktop - is this guy serious? - Pete]
The clock... try the menus Pete:-)
Resizing.. try the menus Pete
But remenber Pete he is using RH 7-- guess what Pete.. try the menus :-)
He's serious but he's no geek.
> "My point is, computers evolve to make our lives easier, to make tasks
> quicker and more efficient. If I can't figure it out, how is the non-tech
> supposed to? If you really want to make Linux a viable alternative to
> Windows, you have to do better than this. Then again, if the Linux
> brethren want to keep it to themselves, consider it a job well done. The
> advocates of UNIX and Linux are constantly complaining about the Windows
> platform -- and this is how they compete? Good luck."
>
> Amen.
Halleluja brother.. but remenber wich perspective hes looking from and what
he thinks is important.
--
Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: "Linux is no Windows killer"
Date: 17 Jan 2001 22:21:19 GMT
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2675184,00.html
> My sentiments exactly.
> To quote from the article:
> "I am a geek by trade and I couldn't figure out how to perform simple tasks
> like setting the clock or resizing the desktop. Will some think I am a
> moron for not knowing how? Yes. Do I care? No. "You have to do it from the
> command line, why don't you use the command line?" Because I don't like the
> command line and neither does 90 percent of the population.
This person is not a geek, they are indeed a moron.
This is also a very, very old article.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jarrod Ditmore )
Subject: Linux Opportunity
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:16:32 GMT
Hello Linux Professionals,
My name is Jarrod Ditmore and I work for an Executive Search firm
called D. Brown and Associates. We are currently working with a
Fortune 500 company hiring experienced Linux Professionals across the
United States. The initiative is to provide services for B2B and B2C.
Job description:
Understand LINUX O/S technology,trends, application and middle-ware
implementation and architectural specifics. Work with LINUX
Technology
Center resources to provide feedback and keep abreast of changing
LINUX
technologies. Work closely with LINUX solutions and marketing
resources
to provide feedback with changing LINUX technologies. Participate in
managing and integrating technical resources into
key LINUX solution development areas.
**********
LINUX O/S, applications & architecture
e-Business industry & technology
Systems administration & security
Networking
UNIX & NT platforms
Organization & time management
Strong oral/written communications
Presentation skills
The positions require travel 65 to 75%. This entails during the week
travel and always home on weekends. Looking for individual with 3
years or more experience.
If you're a specialist or a guru we would like to talk with you.
Send your resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I look forward to hearing from you.
Jarrod Ditmore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Win2k vs Linux? Why downgrade to Linux?
Date: 17 Jan 2001 22:24:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So have I, and it seems to be getting worse with every new release.
You have not been using netscape from the very beginning; this is an
absolute lie.
=====.
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From: LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:13:15 GMT
Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/16139.html
>What are the winvocates going to say? Micros~1 <snip>
>-Ed
LOL
That is the best replacement name I have seen.
LShaping
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:34:16 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>
> And what's the MTTF of Linux? Empirical studies, not anectdotes about
> single systems.
Just give a look to netcraft uptime data. It's high enough to give
headaches to MS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Linux Opportunity
Date: 17 Jan 2001 22:34:36 GMT
Jarrod Ditmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Linux Professionals,
> My name is Jarrod Ditmore and I work for an Executive Search firm
> called D. Brown and Associates. We are currently working with a
> Fortune 500 company hiring experienced Linux Professionals across the
> United States. The initiative is to provide services for B2B and B2C.
> Job description:
> Understand LINUX O/S technology,trends, application and middle-ware
> implementation and architectural specifics. Work with LINUX
> Technology
> Center resources to provide feedback and keep abreast of changing
> LINUX
> technologies. Work closely with LINUX solutions and marketing
> resources
> to provide feedback with changing LINUX technologies. Participate in
> managing and integrating technical resources into
> key LINUX solution development areas.
> **********
> LINUX O/S, applications & architecture
> e-Business industry & technology
> Systems administration & security
> Networking
> UNIX & NT platforms
> Organization & time management
> Strong oral/written communications
> Presentation skills
> The positions require travel 65 to 75%. This entails during the week
> travel and always home on weekends. Looking for individual with 3
> years or more experience.
> If you're a specialist or a guru we would like to talk with you.
> Send your resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I look forward to hearing from you.
Generally, Miss Ditmore, unix and unix-like geeks do not like (nor
really understand) buzzwords devoid of substance and meaning..
You need to enclose a salary range and an *actual* description of
the *actual* job if you want qualified individuals.
=====.
--
"It's natural to expect there might be people doing stupid things
with computers"
---Michael Vatis, director of the FBI's national infrastructure
protection center commenting on Y2K concerns about hacker attacks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Kernel Engineer
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:28:54 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: "Linux is no Windows killer"
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:50:40 -0000
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:56:30 +0000, Pete Goodwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2675184,00.html
>
>My sentiments exactly.
Use the DAMNED control panel.
>
>To quote from the article:
>
>"I am a geek by trade and I couldn't figure out how to perform simple tasks
>like setting the clock or resizing the desktop. Will some think I am a
>moron for not knowing how? Yes. Do I care? No. "You have to do it from the
Considering that there are obviously placed GUI tools for these
tasks, yes. It's not like we're knocking you (or others) for
being unable to tweak xfree86 modelines.
Redhat has had shiny happy tools to handle these two particular
tasks since version 4.0.
[deleta]
Shell-o-phobia has nothing to do with it.
He was just too damn lazy to look around and prod the interface.
He would have the same problem with a Mac.
--
Regarding Copyleft:
There are more of "US" than there are of "YOU", so I don't
really give a damn if you're mad that the L/GPL makes it
harder for you to be a robber baron.
|||
/ | \
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 00:50:44 +0200
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > > A PII/400 isn't state-of-the-art by any means.
> >
> > It's _way_ more than a workstation need.*
> > Hell, I used to do 3D Graphic work on a 133 + 16MB. And didn't saw
anything
> > strange in having to do all the rendering at night.
>
> ... not running Windows NT or Windows 2k (sorry, couldn't resist :)
I run 95 then, I believe.
The point I was trying to make that the renderring took so long, (and so
much resources) that when I left the computer, I told it to do the
rendering, and, hopefully, when I got back tomorrow, it was done. I'd a
three full days of just rendering, once, on a complex 1600x1200 picture. I
kept things simplier, after that, I didn't enjoy working on 486 while the
machine was busy.
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance]
Date: 17 Jan 2001 16:53:20 -0600
"Kevin Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers once wrote:
> >
> >"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Chad Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> > Linux isn't anywhere. It's Linux that has the uphill battle. Windows
> >> > is everywhere and not giving up any market share to anyone.
> >>
> >> I know, we truly want to believe that, Chad - I'm with you,
> >> I really am, but let's face reality:
> >>
> >> * Windows/iis has been steadily losing ground to linux/apache
> >> in the web server market.
> >
> >If you're referring to the heavily skewed Netcraft, results,
> >I would point you to:
> >
> >http://www.biznix.org/surveys/
> >
> >Netcraft counts each virtual host as a server, which is grossly
> >incorrect.
> >
> >For the numbers that really matter (Fortune and Global 500)
> >IIS is in the lead. These are realatively new numbers, the gap
> >is widening between IIS and Apache. Apache was the stronghold, now
> >it's losing share left and right to IIS.
> >
> >iPlanet (Netscape) is a player now. Apache is on its way out, it's
> >IIS and iPlanet now.
> >
> >> * Linux destroyed windows in the specweb results.
> >
> >Questionable.
> >
> >>
> >> * IBM is investing a BILLION dollars in Linux this year.
> >
> >I'm suprised you mention that. IBM doesn't have a very good
> >investment record... Lotus?
> >
>
> Ho ho.
>
> IIS isn't even capable of staying up whilst doing virtual serving.
Considering the recently released patch for W2K/IIS that will make it easier
(it was already possible, but got a touch unweildly after about 5000) to
host 10's of thousands (no upper limit) of hosts on a single server I'd say
you are full of crap.
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: TCO challenge: [was Linux 2.4 Major Advance]
Date: 17 Jan 2001 16:53:30 -0600
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:944i4h$2vd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Chad Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> > Linux isn't anywhere. It's Linux that has the uphill battle. Windows
> >> > is everywhere and not giving up any market share to anyone.
> >>
> >> I know, we truly want to believe that, Chad - I'm with you,
> >> I really am, but let's face reality:
> >>
> >> * Windows/iis has been steadily losing ground to linux/apache
> >> in the web server market.
>
> > If you're referring to the heavily skewed Netcraft, results,
> > I would point you to:
>
> > http://www.biznix.org/surveys/
>
> > Netcraft counts each virtual host as a server, which is grossly
> > incorrect.
>
> Because it makes windows, which cannot handle the number of virtual
> hosts that linux (or any other UNIX) can, look very bad.
Oh really? And genius period man - tell the class ... what's the limit of
virtual hosts for IIS (free hint#1: it isn't any windows limitation, you
yutz)?
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From: "tony roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another World's Fastest Parallel Supercomputer running Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:46:58 -0800
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
"Yes, everyone knows this, including IBM. Everyone also knows that
W2K cannot compete with AIX in any way, shape, or form...but now
we all know that linux can."
I know that this was not a quote from you but this was heading that I was
going for!
"Ian Davey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <#fNLtYJgAHA.272@cpmsnbbsa07>, "tony roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Within our organization after nearly a quarter of a BILLION dollars
(that's
> >right, a quarter of a BILLION dollars) invested in an IBM conceived and
> >executed network (wan/lan) and computing infrastructure (utilizing AIX
and
> >top of the line CISCO switches) the majority (not the wan/lan) of the
> >systems was replaced by an NT based computing facility. In terms of
bang
> >for bucks AIX did not perform well and was found to be somewhat flaky
> >considering its costs.
>
> AIX != Linux which is what is in the heading of this thread. And there are
> currently lots of examples of Linux supercomputers. So what is this
example
> supposed to prove exactly?
>
> ian.
>
> \ /
> (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |
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From: "tony roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another World's Fastest Parallel Supercomputer running Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:50:21 -0800
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
no thunderbird here just reality, I love that "quarter of a BILLION
dollars" stuff. I mean thats only 250 millions dollars but "quarter of a
BILLION dollars" sounds better. To bad that this was our reality.
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> tony roth wrote:
> >
> > Within our organization after nearly a quarter of a BILLION dollars
(that's
> > right, a quarter of a BILLION dollars) invested in an IBM conceived and
> > executed network (wan/lan) and computing infrastructure (utilizing AIX
and
> > top of the line CISCO switches) the majority (not the wan/lan) of the
> > systems was replaced by an NT based computing facility. In terms of
bang
> > for bucks AIX did not perform well and was found to be somewhat flaky
> > considering its costs.
>
> Hitting the Thunderbird bottle a little early this morning, aren't ya
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What really burns the Winvocates here...
Date: 17 Jan 2001 15:30:26 -0700
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Aaron Ginn wrote:
>
> > Pete Goodwin is constantly complaining about the lack of either an
> > IDE, a Windows-like GUI, or 3-D sound in Linux. I wouldn't use any of
> > these even if they did exist in some form or another. So why should
> > I care that Pete complains about their non-existance. If Pete needs
> > these things, he should stick with Windows. His needs are irrelevant
> > to me, particularly when it seems as if he never seeks help for his
> > problems, or he does ridiculous things like installing 'everything' on
> > a potential server.
>
> Actually I stopped complaining about IDE or 3D Sound in Linux.
>
> Also, just because _you_ don't need certain features doesn't mean everyone
> else doesn't either. Someone complained that I tended to see things from a
> personal perspective - now you're doing exactly that!
I never said that your needs were unimportant. I'm sure they are to
you. However, to assume that anyone here in COLA actually cares
whether or not you can do 'X' as easily in Linux as you can in Windows
is absurd, especially when that user never bothers to attempt to help
himself. At that point, one must assume that he is a troll who
doesn't want to do anything other than use anecdotal evidence to try
to prove that Linux is somehow inferior to any other OS.
Never forget that Linux is above all a charitable effort. When you
disparage that effort without offering anything in contribution, you
look selfish.
If these things are important to you, do something about it. You know
C++, and you claim to have experience in GUI development. That's a
highly valuable commodity that you could use to contribute to the
improvement of the desktop that you want to be so Windows-like.
Otherwise, stop complaining. We don't care.
--
Aaron J. Ginn Phone: 480-814-4463
Motorola SemiCustom Solutions Pager: 877-586-2318
1300 N. Alma School Rd. Fax : 480-814-4463
Chandler, AZ 85226 M/D CH260 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Server Saga
Date: 17 Jan 2001 15:22:21 -0700
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Aaron Ginn wrote:
>
> > Your sole purpose here is to inflame and troll.
>
> My sole purpose here is to counter Linux advocacy.
I'll take that as a 'No, I didn't submit a bug report.'
You have no right to complain, then.
--
Aaron J. Ginn Phone: 480-814-4463
Motorola SemiCustom Solutions Pager: 877-586-2318
1300 N. Alma School Rd. Fax : 480-814-4463
Chandler, AZ 85226 M/D CH260 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Reply-To: "rnwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "rnwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Mandrake in VMware in Windows 2000 - HELP!
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:03:16 GMT
I ran the setup program that came with VMware 2.0.3. After that, I entered
my personal licence. From there I clicked START -> Programs -> VMware ->
VMware.
Is this a trick question or are you just being part of my nightmare?
(grin!!)
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> rnwalker wrote:
> >
> > I am pulling my hair out trying to get Linus Mandrake to run!
> >
> > I installed VMware 2.03 inside my Windows 2000 box, 128mb, PIII 500,
ADSL,
> > D-Link card. This is a stand-alone system in my home.
> > I have installed Redhat twice and gave up on that. Tonight I did 2
installs
> > of Mandrake 7.2 and I am ready to scream.
> >
> > First, during the install, it asked for the second CD and rejected that.
I
> > extracted the files from the ISO and burned them so maybe that is the
> > problem and I can live with that. When it asked for the 2nd CD, I hit
> > cancel and the install continued.
> >
> > When we got to the network part I said I had ADSL and the install
started
> > doing its thing. It got to the network card and gave me the following
error
> > "insmod'ing module lance failed at /usr/bin/perl-Install/modules.pm line
479
> > No Ethernet adapter has been detected on your system". Bridging is
enabled
> > in VMware and running in services.
> >
> > During setup it asked for a root pasword and confirmation. I gave it
> > "catlove". It then asked for a user and I gave it "meesha" as the user
and
> > "catlove" again as the password. I hit "accept user" and then done.
> >
> > The install said it could automatically log one user on at startup so I
> > selected "meesha".
> >
> > After reboot, it waits about 3 minutes at "starting ADSL". It asks for
a
> > login that it was suppose to do automatically. I give it meesha /
catlove
> > and it logs me in and sits at the root prompt in text mode.
> >
> > What happened to this fancy interface? Is this VMware that is causing
my
> > troubles or Mandrake? Any help would be appreciated. I am sure as soon
as
> > I get this going, my problems will only have just started!
>
> If you can't get Linux to run...how did you install VMware?
>
> By the way, Mandrake is practically foolproof.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Win2k vs Linux? Why downgrade to Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:05:08 GMT
On 17 Jan 2001 22:24:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> So have I, and it seems to be getting worse with every new release.
>
>You have not been using netscape from the very beginning; this is an
>absolute lie.
I was using Netscape while you were still in middle school sonny :)
That's Windows and OS/2 versions.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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