Linux-Advocacy Digest #899, Volume #31            Thu, 1 Feb 01 19:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Yum! A new laptop screen, i thinks ill fry it! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Paul Thurrott reports: "Microsoft Executives Trash Linux" ("Adam Warner")
  Re: The 130MByte text file ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! (Mark Styles)
  Re: more egg on microsoft's face! :-) (Milton)
  Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING (Aaron Lehmann)
  Re: The 130MByte text file ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: questions (windows & Mac)....? (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
  Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("nuxx")
  Re: Bill knows what's best for you ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:43:31 -0500

Ian Davey wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> As far as Atheists are concerned, god doesn't exist any more than Santa Claus
> >> or the Easter Bunny.
> >
> >Which *IS* a belief in itself.
> 
> Not true. I read lots of novels and enjoy them, but don't believe any of the
> content as it's just fiction. There's no belief system wrapped up in it.
> There's no need to pay any attention to people who elevate stories into a
> belief system.

You have just expressed a belief.

It might be true, or not...either way, it IS a belief.


> 
> There are lots of fairy tales with different versions told of them, the fact I
> don't believe they are true doesn't make that act of disbelief a "belief
> system". That's just absurd.
> 
> My favourite version of the Jesus story is the one where the time traveller
> Karl Glogaeur goes back to witness the crucifiction, finds Jesus as a drooling
> idiot and ends up takes his place in the rest of the story[*]. The bible is
> simply a collection of similar moral stories, just like what has been
> represented by Fairy Tales. They're both just different ways of expressing the
> same thing, these stories can be useful as examples and supply useful sticks
> and carrots for those who do believe them.
> 
> So where does any form of belief come into this? Next you'll be claiming that
> science is a religion as well (rather than a collection of theories).
> 
> ian.
> 
> * courtesy of "Behold the Man" by Michael Moorcock
> 
>  \ /
> (@_@)  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
>  | |


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yum! A new laptop screen, i thinks ill fry it!
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:45:37 -0500

meow wrote:
> 
> Ok so first you say this
> 
> > Liar.  LCD screens are NOT susceptable to damage by too high of
> > a dot-clock setting.
> 
> And then strangely you say this...
> > Translation: Meow was tooo STUPID to read the EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS
> >       to reference his monitors specs for maximum dot-clock frequency.
> > So experienced, that you COMPLETELY IGNORED *specific* and *dire*
> > warnings to make sure that you don't specify too high a frequency?
> 
> Bit of a contradiction there. First i cant damage it by setting the dot
> clock setting too high and then next paragragh i can?!?

I'm just pointing out that, even if he were complaining about damage
to a CRT screen, it wouldn't be anybody's fault other than his own.


> 
> So y'all telling me i cant destroy a monitor with software yet as this

You cannot destroy an LCD monitor with software...but you CAN destroy
a CRT screen by using too high of a dot-clock.

> guy clearly states you can by setting the dot clock too high.
> This IS software driven so software CAN destroy the monitor
> This is exactly what i was talking about when i mentioned the software
> should choose these settings itself and not even let you choose
> something too high
> 
> Mr_StillAngryButSonyHaveReplacedItAnywaySoThatsOkButICertainlyWontBeInst
> allingLinuxOnTheMachineAgainTillTheyLearnToCodeProperly


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Paul Thurrott reports: "Microsoft Executives Trash Linux"
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:45:29 GMT

http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=19818

"Steve Ballmer recently revealed the not-so-surprising notion that Linux was
his company's number-one threat. For any other company, this would be a sure
sign that it was finally taking the Linux threat seriously. But for
Microsoft, you can only tell they're worried when the trash-talking starts.
And Microsoft is trash-talking Linux big time."

...

"The company is convinced that it will win its lawsuit on appeal, and if the
Linux movement hopes to be more than just the latest in a long list of
competitors that have been run over by the Redmond giant, it needs to come
up with a better response than its peers from the past did."


Paul Thurrott's Wininfo is an authoritative source for Windows news. Having
followed his reporting for a long while, Paul Thurrott provides fair
Windows-centric reporting (he also manages to come up with a number of
exclusives).

Regards,
Adam



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The 130MByte text file
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:48:42 -0500

Mig wrote:
> 
> Bruce Scott TOK wrote:
> 
> > In article <95b9al$6c1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Pete Goodwin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >I then tried Linux with this stupendous file. VIM handled it with no
> > >problems - though I question why PFE and VIM took so long to load it.
> > >Editors used to work by only loading what was needed, not the whole
> > >file.
> > >
> > >So I tried KEDit of KDE 2.0. Oops! It crashed.
> > >
> > >So I tried the Advanced Editor... oh dear, my desktop is hung! Mouse
> > >stuck, terminal stuck, the whole shebang has frozen!
> >
> > Stuff like that is windows-imitation crap.  Try emacs or vi on big files
> > like that.  I do it routinely.
> 
> Correct.. tryed EMACS on a 29MB file.. no problems whatsoever and displays
> the first part instantly. Tryed EMACS on a 1200 MB and it refuses to load
> it because its over a limit... Thats the way to do it :-)
> --
> Cheers

really doesn't matter if the editor refused to load the file, or if the
editor crashes during loading...either way, it doesn't take down the system

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: Mark Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:48:00 -0500

On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:26:42 +0000, Pete Goodwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> Also he stated a few days ago that he can't install several things
>> because of dependency-problems.
>
>Telnet.

telnet or telnetd?

log in as root, type ls /usr/sbin/tcpd, and ls /usr/bin/telnet, and
tell us what it says.


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From: Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: more egg on microsoft's face! :-)
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:43:49 -0500

On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:34:18 -0500, jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


>http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4682851.html?tag=tp_pr

But Cohen agreed the decision to run the VMware technology on top of
Linux, not Windows, is key to a government agency like the NSA. 

In a nod to the open-source community, he said that--for the NSA's
purposes--seeing the source code and testing its security is extremely
important.

"You wouldn't want to do it on Windows NT, because you know nothing
about what is going on inside NT," he said.

I couldn't agree more.
I doubt if even M$ programmers know what is going on inside :)
--
«««««««««««««««««««««««»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
  Milton B. Hewitt                     
  CAUCE Member - http://www.cauce.org  
  Proud supporter of the Microsoft Boycott Campaign 
  http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
«««««««««««««««««««««««»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»

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From: Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:44:54 -0500

<snippage>
> Trivial to a programmer maybe.
> Non trivial to a musician,
Why would a musician care about the things you posted?
You seemed to care about graphics, ergonomics, and visualizations...
Never once did you mention pushing the "PLAY" button...

> 
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.

Aaron Lehmann

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The 130MByte text file
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:51:34 -0500

Pete Goodwin wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > If they have a Linux or other Unix system, a dumb terminal
> > can be hooked up to a spare serial port.
> 
> What did I say? I said "they have one PC and no network access". They
> don't have a spare dumb terminal. Hint: this is yer typical home user.
> 
> What are they going to do?

1) Spend 7 Pounds Sterling and get a used dumb terminal.

2) Alt-Fn (n=1-8) to get a new virtual console, shithead.



> 
> Reboot of course!
> 



> > Yes, well, while you are clowning around figuring out how
> > to further hork up your poor little box, people in the real
> > world are seeing quite different results - for instance, all
> > my production Linux internet servers have been up for
> > precisely 228 days - ever since having upgraded the
> > kernel from 2.2.14 to 2.2.16 last June.
> 
> And what happens if you try loading a 130MByte text file into any GUI
> editor? Care to share the results? Or afraid to try?
> 
> > But then again, I've got work to do, and don't have time
> > to try to create a broken system just to I can "counter
> > linux advocacy" - is that why I don't get your results?
> 
> Perhaps because you haven't tried it?
> 
> --
> ---
> Pete
> 
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:55:07 -0500

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > > Most unix still uses permission bits. DAC > Permission bits.
> >
> > Can you translate "DAC" from microsoft speak into english
> > for those of us who don't know microsoft speak?
> 
> Ah, so you expose your ignorance. DAC is not Microsoft speak. In fact,

Yes, it is.

> many trusted Unixes had it before MS even had Windows. NetWare had it
> in 4.x. DAC, for those not familiar with true security implementations,
> unlike permission bits, is "discretionary access control" which means
> that you can assign any number of trustees to an object (file, folder,
> logical action, etc) and then grant that trustee varying levels of
> permission (read, write, change permissions, etc) and also deny certain
> trustees those same permissions. Inheritence came in later, but is now
> part of the DAC model.

Translation Microsoft "DAC" = Rest-of-the-world Access Control List (ACL)

> 
> Also heavy auditing comes along with DAC to ensure that permissions are
> being distributed correctly and that you haven't set incorrect permissions
> thus allowing a trustee more rights than she should have.
> 
> Linux (and most Unixes) lack a pervasive DAC and auditing model. NT/2K
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wrong.  EVERY commercial unix I've worked on has the OPTION of building
filesystems with Access Control Lists (which is the PROPER terminology).
Sgi has the xfs, which *IS* available for Linux, and, of course, supports
ACL's.

Therefore, you're WRONG AGAIN, chad...or is that chump.





-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: questions (windows & Mac)....?
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:40:22 +0100

cool cool wrote:
> hi
> sorry to interrupt
> but I've got a question (no, I meant a few questions).
> 
> cuz I'm still using Win98 second edition, and cuz I was told (last year)
> tha t Win 2000 (or ME? or are these two the same things? sorry I don't
> know much about computers, like you and you do, sorry) still have lots of
> ah....bugs? or....whatever, I don'tknow.
> he just said that I should stick with Win98 unless there's a technical
> reaso n.
> 
> is this true?
> 
> 
Is this for real?
Well, a linonut (Flathead(tm)) would put it that way.
But a Wintendo(tm)-user?
If they are really like that, MS does not need any foes if it got friends 
like that.

-- 
Linux is simply a fad that has been generated by the media
We are Borg. Resistance is futile (Borg Gates)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:56:42 -0500

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > > Most unix still uses permission bits. DAC > Permission bits.
> >
> > Can you translate "DAC" from microsoft speak into english
> > for those of us who don't know microsoft speak?
> 
> Ah, so you expose your ignorance. DAC is not Microsoft speak. In fact,
> many trusted Unixes had it before MS even had Windows. NetWare had it
> in 4.x. DAC, for those not familiar with true security implementations,
> unlike permission bits, is "discretionary access control" which means
> that you can assign any number of trustees to an object (file, folder,
> logical action, etc) and then grant that trustee varying levels of
> permission (read, write, change permissions, etc) and also deny certain
> trustees those same permissions. Inheritence came in later, but is now
> part of the DAC model.
> 
> Also heavy auditing comes along with DAC to ensure that permissions are
> being distributed correctly and that you haven't set incorrect permissions
> thus allowing a trustee more rights than she should have.
> 
> Linux (and most Unixes) lack a pervasive DAC and auditing model. NT/2K
> have one. NetWare has one for the most part, and all the Trusted Unixes
> have them. It's been excepted by security experts as the best, most
> thorough way to control access to a given resource.
> 
> > > > Is it true that windows 2000 finally got filesystem quotas
> > > > somewhat similar to what Linux has had for years?
> > >
> > > There were quota packages for NT. In fact, one of the leading
> > > quota software companies for NT was the one that MS licensed
> > > their software to put into 2K.
> >
> > Sure, there has always been an industry of companies
> > making a bundle by filling in the missing pieces from
> > ms windows. There still is, even though ms has managed
> > to copy a few of the products.
> >
> > > NT has had quotas for years as well.
> >
> > Nope, not until windows 2000 did microsoft take their
> > first baby steps into this basic capability.
> 
> No, quotas have been around for NT for years.
> Save the lies.
> 
> >
> > > It's pretty sad that the only redeeming quality of Linux is a
> > > few utilities that you don't have to buy 3rd party.
> >
> > It's obvious that you are a very dull person, and have no
> > idea what you are talking about. I have to give you an 'E'
> > for effort though!
> 
> Not really. Name one redeeming quality of Linux that no other OS
> has out there.
> 
> > > Didn't think so. Until then, don't talk to me about Linux
> > > security.
> >
> > If microsoft security is so advanced, explain 2 things:
> >
> > 1. Why is windows nt the most vulnerable web server platform?
> 
> Because, like any other OS, the administrators are not properly
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> trained to use the security implementation. When set up and configured
  ^^^^^^^

That seems to be a common theme with Microsoft platforms....
Poorly- and/or Untrained administrators.

Couldn't be because M$ continually pushes the IDIOTIC notion that any
moron can run a computer without knowing anything...could it

Naaaaaaaaaah, of course not.




> properly NT is rock solid. Of course, like any other OS, there are
> the occasional buffer overflows and such (Linux is no stranger to this),
> but in general, when you lock down the permissions, it's nearly impossible
> for someone to crack it over the internet.
> 
> > 2. Why couldn't microsoft seem to manage their own dns servers?
> 
> It wasn't the DNS servers, it was the routers and the load balancers.
> Some human made a human error and botched the whole thing.
> 
> Perhaps you should educate yourself on security and basic facts before
> posting here. You seem to be missing quite a bit.
> 
> -Chad


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "nuxx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:56:44 +0800


"David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95bv3o$3ga$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Chad Myers wrote in message
<0Wde6.602$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >
>
> >No, quotas have been around for NT for years.
> >Save the lies.
>
> I am curious about the disk quotas on NT - we have NT 4.0 Server at the
> office, and I can find no mention of disk quotas anywhere in the help
files,
> or in any of the administrative tools.  In fact, the only mention I find
of
> the word "quota" is that in order to use the SU program (a utility to let
> you change to another user in a command box - it is very limited, but
> nonetheless essential for administrating NT - why you have to buy it as
part
> of the NT Resource kit is beyond me), a user has to have the "Increase
> Quotas" account priviledge.
>
> At the moment, my method of enforcing disk quotas is shouting at people
when
> the server complains about lack of free disk space.  I would be interested
> in using NT's long-established disk quota system, if someone can tell me
> where to find it.

I use a product called Quota Manager on NT4.
http://www.ntpsoftware.com/products/qm/
W2k has quota mangement built in (as NT4 should have).

<snip some valid points about NT and W2ks lack of default installed admin
utilities>

> As far as I understand it, if I set up an NT server (be it NT4.0 or w2k)
> with IIS and some active server pages collecing data from a MS SQL Server
> database, I have to buy client access licences for anyone connecting to
the
> database over the internet.  Does anyone know the situation if the same NT
> server is running Apache, PHP and MySQL?  This is a genuine question, by
the
> way.  The system is likely to move over to Linux some time, but we may be
> running on NT for a while first.
>
Not true, you only need CALs if you are authenticating the user on the
domain.

<snip>

nuxx



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bill knows what's best for you
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:58:09 -0500

chrisv wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Translation: NOTHING about computers is truly "intuitive"
> 
> Boy, 126 lines for that bit of wisdom.

Context is everything.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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