Linux-Advocacy Digest #899, Volume #33           Wed, 25 Apr 01 04:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why do Win advocates suck?  Part 1 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Edward Rosten")
  Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck?  Part 1
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:16:42 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >
> > [snips]
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > > Beyond games, if you insist on running *some particular* app, you
> > > > may be stuck with Windoze.  But if *any* app of a given type will
> > > > suit your needs, you can probably find one or six for Linux.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And, as noted, the old games like nethack and rogue, which can even
> > > be played on a dumb ascii terminal are far more challenging.
> >
> > And books are more challenging than television; yet television sets still
> > sell like hotcakes.  Apparently, people are not, on the whole, satisfied
> > with 1960's technology and expect a little more out of their machines these
> > days.
> 
> Actually, a few TV type stores in our area went out of business and
> Barnes & Nobles is getting pretty crowded these days.  There's nothing
> to watch on TV.

Hockey season is over, so, no more TV for me until October.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:19:47 +0100

>> Oh, so by "change the ACL on the driver", you mean "go hunt for
> cryptically
>> named *.SYS files under C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS".  Do you change
>> permissions on aspi32.sys, or atapi.sys, or cdrom.sys, or ..., or all
>> of the above?
> 
> And how is that any different from hunging down a cryptically named /dev
> file?

The /dev files may be cryptically named, but the naming ic consistent,
logical and well documeted.


-Ed



-- 
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.

u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:21:30 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > GreyCloud wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "B. R. Ivy" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone out there think that Red Hat is moving towards a 
>proprietory OS?
> > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciated the way that RH 7.0 installed but it almost 
>seemed too
> > > > > > > > > > > slick.  And now they want to bundle in the way too pretty 
>Nautilus GUI with
> > > > > > > > > > > 7.1.   I'd hate to wake up five years from now with another 
>Microsoft on the
> > > > > > > > > > > horizon. Ideas? Opinions?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Randall Ivy
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The difference is that there are alternatives, such as SuSE Linux, 
>and
> > > > > > > > > > Mandrake.  I find it rather humourous that Sepo's don't know any
> > > > > > > > > > products made outside the US.  Mention the words SuSE, SAP or Baan 
>and
> > > > > > > > > > you get blank faces, mention software such as Jade and there is 
>even
> > > > > > > > > > more blank faces. What the heck is wrong with people? Its like 
>during
> > > > > > > > > > the 70s, the quality of US cars were going further down hill, 
>whilst the
> > > > > > > > > > Japanese made cars were superior and cheaper, yet, no sepo's bought
> > > > > > > > > > them. Is that xenaphobia at the extreme?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No...just illogical arrogance based on an irrational form of 
>nationalism.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's one thing to be proud of your country...it's yet another to 
>assume
> > > > > > > > > that all foreigners are inferior.
> > > > > > > > > That's what got Germany, and Japan, and eventually the Soviet Union 
>in trouble.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > > > > > > > world policeman. They have learnt their leason.  However, US still
> > > > > > > > haven't learnt it, even with all the nut cases out there wanting to 
>blow
> > > > > > > > up US government buildings.  You only need to look at the US's
> > > > > > > > involvement in Somalia to show how arrogance + ignorance = disaster.  
>It
> > > > > > > > is one thing helping a country, it is another thing to tell a country
> > > > > > > > what to do.  However, what I can say, is, the Soviet Union was the 
>first
> > > > > > > > to develop biological weapons, with the first one being developed, one
> > > > > > > > carrying a antibiotic resistant strain of the smallpox virus.  The US
> > > > > > > > said it was impossible, the Soviet Union proved them wrong.  The US had
> > > > > > > > one space station, the Soviety union threw up 5 into orbit.  Little
> > > > > > > > facts most people in the US fail to comprehend, that there is NO ONE
> > > > > > > > country that has contributed to human technological advance, but many,
> > > > > > > > and until this happens, the rampant arrogance will continue to grow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Matthew Gardiner
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The best of German engineering, now in software form
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually a lot of americans ask this same question... why us?
> > > > > > > (policemen)  The corruption is so deep and wide spread that its no
> > > > > > > wonder when an american goes overseas for a vacation that we get spit
> > > > > > > on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you're getting spit on, then you're doing something wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was wearing an Army uniform at the time enroute from Panama thru
> > > > > Gautamala to L.A.
> > > > > I guess I did stick out like a sore thumb.
> > > >
> > > > You're kidding.  Every SEADA briefing I've had tells us to ALWAYS
> > > > travel in civilian clothes, unless travelling on government transport.
> > > > [And even then, it depends...]
> > > >
> > >
> > > Didn't exist in 1968.  I was briefed, then, by the State Dept. and I was
> >
> > Ah...you're older than I thought....in fact, you must be around my dad's age.
> >
> > > told it was safe.  It was safe, spit don't hurt.  Just didn't know that
> > > it was going to happen then. When I got back, I reported it to S-2.  I
> > > also went by commercial air as I was paying for it out of my own pocket,
> > > vacation.  All I had on me was the ok to go on vacation.
> > >
> > > After that the Gov. chartered commercial air flights and scheduled
> > > vacations when it was available.  But when I changed duty stations I had
> > > to go by MAC.
> > >
> > > I'd suppose that things were starting to change.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> >
> I'm really retired.  And suffering from high blood pressure.  That
> problem really sneaks up on you and then its almost too late.  I went to
> the doctors office with my ears ringing loud and mind in a fog... took
> my pressure... 240/120.  Damn near blew a gasket!

Cut the salt out of your diet.  It's easier than you think.

I still use it occasionally, but only on corn, french fries, and broccoli.
you get all the salt you need in your daily meat consumption.


> Taken care of now.  Anyway, still catching up on Unix and what it can
> do.  Eventually, I'll receive a vax-4000 in the mail.. as used one
> running vms 6.2.  Has vax fortran and C on it already.  It has two
> ethernet ports on it and will connect it to this IBM and use putty.exe I
> got from Rice U. (vt330 emulator).  I need to get somewhere a hardware
> fire-wall as wife wants to get on broadband.  I don't trust software yet
> to keep out intruders.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:21:58 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Do I need to drag the old Europe argument out into the open as a
> > > > >demonstration of a region that is liberal and tolerant, yet has not got
> > > > >the issues the US are trying to address, such as teenage pregnancy as
> > > > >example.
> > > > >
> > > > >It has been 14 years since sexual orientation was put into the
> > > > >anti-descrimination laws in New Zealand, and the whole of New Zealand
> > > > >hasn't split in half, so please, where is the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >Instead of some of these "high and mighty" moralists should get over
> > > > >their insecurities. Why should they be concerned something that has
> > > > >nothing to do with them.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > There you go again.  You have stated that it has nothing to do with
> > > > me.  It has everything to do with me when my constitutional rights
> > > > to free speech and freedom of religion are being challenged.  The
> > > > homosexual lobby in the US is not some group that just wants to be
> > > > left alone as you have falsely claimed.  They have a political
> > > > agenda that they want to bring to everyone in America.  Including
> > > > my children and they want to prevent me from saying anything in
> > > > protest about it.  What part of this do you not understand.
> > > >
> > > > >btw, if you are christian, it is also a sin to use a condom /
> > > > >contraception and to have sex for pleasure, as by the bible, it should
> > > > >only be used for pro-creation.  So before you stand the moral high
> > > > >ground, look at what YOU do in YOUR OWN LIFE before throwing mud at a
> > > > >particular group.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everyone of the statements you made in the previous paragraph is false.
> > > > Having to lie in order to make your argument is a sign that your argument
> > > > is extremely weak.
> > > >
> > > > I never stated what my religion is, precisely because I knew people would
> > > > use it to change the argument and make ridiculous claims as you have
> > > > done.  You have no idea if I am christian, jewish, islam, mormon, etc. etc.
> > >
> > > How come there is this problem in the US, yet in NZ, we don't have the
> > > same problems. Yes, in New Zealand there is the "Rainbow Organisation"
> > > (setup my youth) which visits schools, and talks about who you can talk
> > > to if you are curious about your sexual orientation, these include
> > > counselors, teachers, parents, Youth Organisations.
> >
> > The power of suggestion creates "questions" where none previously existed.
> >
> > "Bi-curious" means "I hadn't ever even IMAGINED a homosexual act until
> > some school official mentioned that some people are into this sort of
> > behavior"
> >
> > >
> > > Matthew Gardiner
> > > --
> > > Disclaimer:
> > >
> > > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> > >
> > > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> > >
> > > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> > >
> > > The best of German engineering, now in software form
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> 
> Kinda like goin' to church and learnin' a new sin.
> 

something like that.


> --
> V


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:22:42 -0400

Tom Wilson wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:9q%E6.1338$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > [snips]
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > > Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs!  After some
> > > > > more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> > > > > the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> > > > > bad function was pushing an array of structures
> > > > > onto the stack.  Looking at the size of the array,
> > > > > found it was 64 Mb!
> > > > >
> > > > > At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> > > > > was the cause of the trouble
> > > >
> > > > Really?  The Intel platform, eh?  Not, say, the programmer who created
> > > this
> > > > monstrosity in the first place without a shred of consideration for
> the
> > > > possible impact of doing it, no, not his fault, must be the platform.
> > >
> > > That was my thinking, too. Why on God's green earth would the programmer
> not
> > > anticipate such a thing and simply pass a pointer to the array?
> >
> >
> > Just the overhead of passing a 64MB structure is unbelievable.
> >
> > what a fucking idiot.
> >
> > Must of been a recent departee from Mafia$oft.
> 
> I've seen a lot of engineers write code like that. The maxim about never
> giving engineers a compiler and never giving programmers a soldering iron is
> pretty accurate. <g>

That's why I studied both software AND hardware when I was in school.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:23:56 -0400

jet wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Stephen Morgan wrote:
> > >
> > > In soc.men, Brent R wrote:
> > > > Stephen Morgan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In soc.men, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:01:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your
> ignorant
> > > > > > > >> > stereotypes to yourself.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I'm not invoking "ignorant stereotypes", I am quoting what I
> believe is
> > > > > > > >> a fairly good source.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, considering that I ***LIVED*** In Saudi Arabia for a
> year, I say
> > > > > > > > that your source is full of shit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You've found very little in the way of flaws in my source.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't need to "find" the flaws...they are self-evident from my
> own
> > > > > > PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR A YEAR
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >                                                            All
> you've done
> > > > > > > is dispute the assertions I've made about clothing. Note that
> the document
> > > > > > > I cited acknowledges that westerners are not as restricted in
> terms of
> > > > > > > clothing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But many of the points still stand. Are women allowed to drive,
> or leave
> > > > > > > the house without a male relative ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What about it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They get many privileges, and many restrictions
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In contrast, in the United States, we have stripped all of men's
> > > > > > privileges, and all of womens' restrictions, giving us a society
> > > > > > where men have all the responsibilities and restrictions, and
> women
> > > > > > have all of the privileges.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words...FEUDALISM.
> > > > >
> > > > > You obviously have very little idea of how the feudal system worked.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Working Class
> > > > >    The proletariat so beloved of Marx and Engels are still alive and
> well and
> > > > >    living in vast areas of terraced housing in the major industrial
> cities. Alf
> > > > >    Garnett was their hero and he was adopted by US TV and renamed
> Archie Bunker.
> > > > >    They dislike foreigners, toffs and anything new. They watch the
> telly, go
> > > > >    down the pub, watch the match on Saturday and go to spain to get
> drunk. They
> > > > >    fight our wars and fight at football matches. Not a pretty sight.
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah I remember Alf! From Melmac right? Remember that time he tried
> > > > to kill that cockroach but the spray just kept making it bigger and
> > > > bigger! Haha... Gawd the hilarity that insued!
> > >
> > > I must admit, I really have no idea who Alf Garnett is.
> > >
> >
> > He was referring to an American TV show called A.L.F.
> >
> > The title character was an aardvark-like hand-puppet (usually
> > sitting on the couch in the basement, visable ONLY to the
> > father of the house) from another planet (ALF="Alien Life Form").
> > ALF wasn't just a space alien, he was an obnoxious, beer-drinking
> > space alien.
> 
> Kind of like you.
> 
> >
> > And incredibly funny.
> 
> Wow, are you ever easily amused.

Man-hating women like jet have no sense of humor

> 
> J


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:25:53 -0400

Phillip Lord wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   Richard> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   >> Real programmers do that on _mechanical_ compters made from cast
>   >> iron.
> 
>   Richard> *Cast* iron?  I'm still smithing my difference engines!
> 
>         Well I just count using my fingers.
> 

My word processor is a stick and a clay tablet.


>         Phil


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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