Linux-Advocacy Digest #230, Volume #32 Fri, 16 Feb 01 04:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Interesting article (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Ethernet card for UNIX/Linux (Terry Porter)
Re: Win2K - Minuses outweigh plusses ("Tom Wilson")
Re: The Windows guy. (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: Interesting article (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: KDE Whiners ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Linux 64 bit and Windows 32 bit ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Linux Threat: non-existant (Donn Miller)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Interesting article ("Tom Wilson")
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comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:12:52 GMT
Edward Rosten writes:
>>>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>>>>>> Tholen, David
>>>>>>> 1505 Alexander St,
>>>>>>> Honolulu, HI 96822-4978
>>>>>>> (808)941-3552
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tholen, David Alexander St Apt 406, Honolulu, HI
>>>>>>> 96822
>>>>>> Of what relevance is that, Kulkis?
>>>>> Is this correct (even if it is not relavent)?
>>>> What difference would it make?
>>> To what?
>> More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question. Or
>> do you consider yourself a "what"?
> It would go some way towards demonstrating Kulkis' credibility if it were
> true.
The issue is not Kulkis' credibility at the moment, but rather the
relevance of his posting.
>>>> My question is about the relevance, not
>>> So?
>> Precisely. What difference would it make?
> To what or to whom?
More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question. Or
do you consider yourself a "what"?
>>>> the correctness. I could also ask about the redundancy.
>>> Is it correct (relavence aside)?
>> What difference would it make?
> To what or to whom?
More like "to whom", given that you're the one asking the question. Or
do you consider yourself a "what"?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:23:58 GMT
In article <FG2j6.25379$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chad Myers wrote:
I'm sorry. I can't resist this one.
>> > But I've been told, and scolded over and over again that Linux
>> > isn't Unix.
>> >
>> > So which is it?
>>
>> You might try thinking for yourself -
>>
>> Do you always waver among various beliefs
>> depending on whatever you were last told?
>>
>> What do you think, Chad?
>
>No, really, I want to know.
You want to know what Chad?
>
>When it's good for Linux, Linux is Unix. When it's bad for Linux,
>Linux isn't Unix.
>
Ummm..
>I wish you guys would make up your mind and stick to something,
>because it really just makes you look like idiots. But then,
>we always knew that, I guess.
>
>-Chad
>
Yes freinds. Another classic argument for Windows.
Chad is the *PRIDE* of the Microsoft debating core.
He has given litterally millions of people very good
reasons for staying with Microsoft and not trying
Linux.
This is reason #1217 why Linux is inferior to Windows.
We here at COLA are proud of people like Chad Myers
who provide Linux with such free and bountyfull advertising.
Truely, you couldn't attempt to put a price on the free
advertising this boy does for Linux around the clock.
The people of COLA salute Chad Myers for his undying
efforts to promote Linux to thousands -
litterally millions of intelligent people who
read COLA or one of the many sorted Windows newsgroups
daily.
Thanks Chad for just being a rediculous asshole.
May Bill Gates never find out about you and pay
some Mafia hit man $1,000,000 just to shut your
stupid yap up.
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
/ / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
/_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
http://www.debian.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:28:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
>
>Charlie Ebert wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Marten Kemp wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Charlie Ebert wrote:
>> >> <<snip>>
>> >> >
>> >> > When you compare the development cycle between Intel and AMD,
>> >> > AMD is not hindered by secret contracts with Microsoft.
>> >> >
>> >> > If anything, you will hear a slosh in the boots of Intel as they
>> >> > walk away from the next encounter from AMD.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I was the president of Intel, I would tell MS to just fuck off.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Charlie
>> >> What secret contracts? Special opcodes they only tell Microsoft about?
>> >
>> >MS tells them what opcodes they want Intel to implement....or something.
>> >
>>
>> Oh please gentlemen!
>
>it's a joke, Charlie....
>laugh a little.
>
>>
>> Are you telling me that nobody is aware of the 64 bit Intel processor
>> used in the HP-9000 series? It's been on the road for along time now.
>>
>> It's the same damn chip. But it's available ONLY for mainframe use.
>
>I'm well aware of this.
>
>>
>> You mean to tell me you guys didn't know that?
>>
>> They are under contract to sit on this chip until Microsoft get's finished
>> working the bugs out of their 64 bit code.
>
>That's the secret contract referred to above...
>
>>
>> Go call an HP rep and ask him what kind of CPU is used in an HP-9000
>> mainframe computer.
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >> -- Marten Kemp
>> >
>> >--
>> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
>> >ICQ # 3056642
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Charlie
>>
>> **DEBIAN** **GNU**
>> / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
>> / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
>> /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
>> http://www.debian.org
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>
I knew *YOU* knew about this AK.
But what of the rest of them.
Do *THEY* know that all HP customers are
signing non-disclosure agreements to cover
this fact up????
Do I give a shit! NO.
But this is absolutely true. Intel has
a pac with Microsoft so Microsoft has time
to finish up it's 64 bit OS before Intel's
chip hit's market.
A chip which was largely designed by HP.
And BTW, HP contributed greately to the Linux
64 bit kernel which was actually READY BEFORE
the HP-9000's ever started using this processor.
And one more FYI. There *IS* a very good possibilty
that HP-UX will be penguified in a couple of years.
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
/ / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
/_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
http://www.debian.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Ethernet card for UNIX/Linux
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 16 Feb 2001 07:57:42 GMT
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:39:09 -0500, Chris Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Martin Eden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:_wqi6.393$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi everybody.
>>
>> I need an ethernet card for my new system. I'll dual boot Linux and FreeBSD.
>> Any advice on which one to get?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>
>Wrong NG buddy.
>We're too busy cursing M$ to answer a question like that.
This posted from a Windows user ?
>Try comp.os.linux.networking
Why ?
We can say what we like here on COLA, ask "Steve/Heather/keys88/Flatfish++++"!
I'd go for a NE2000 clone ISA or PCI, theyre easily recognised by most OS's,
with the exception of Win95 and Win98 (In my experience).
>
>
>
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win2K - Minuses outweigh plusses
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:06:30 GMT
In article <3a8c8254$0$2389$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan Johanson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said Jan Johanson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 13 Feb 2001 21:27:10
>> >OK:
>> >
>> >He can't boot from the CD but the CD boots other OSes fine. Uhhuh,
>> >like
> that
>> >happens.
>>
>> That *Windows* won't boot from a CD, but others do, is something that
>> does not seem incredible to me.
>
> Then you don't play with many bootable CDs do you? I've never seen a
> machine that can boot one and not the other, especially since the
> bootstrap code is the same, regardless of OS.
It depends entirely on the quality of the CD in question as well as the
CDROM drive. I have an NT4.0 Workstation CD that only boots on roughly
1/2 of the CDROM drives I attempt it on. I have an older Red Hat CD (from
a book) that is even worse. I've made several, myself, that exhibit the
same behavior. It's nothing unusual.
>
>>
>> >Next, he claims he had linux on the machine first then tried to FDisk
>> >to kill the partitions but they were reportedly containing driver
>> >letters. First, if they have drive letters then he'd be able to see
>> >them.
FDISK has an annoying habit of sometimes claiming that extended
partitions contain drive letters when, in fact, the extended area never
even contained a FAT partition. It will refuse to remove the extended
partition until the DOS drives in it are removed. Since there ARE no DOS
drives in the partition to remove, you're pretty much stuck unless you
have another tool at your disposal to wipe the partition off.
>>
>> I'm not an expert on fdisk, but I don't believe this is the case, as
>> "drive letters" only have meaning to DOS, and fdisk is typically at a
>> "lower level" than an OS, I believe.
>
> AND he said he had linux on there before which doesn't use DOS drive
> letters so it's even more unbelievable.
Extended partitions are generally used to place a swap partition and i've
had FDISK swear up and down that a drive letter existed there. FDISK, is
not a very intellegent tool since it was only meant to deal with FAT
partitions.
>
>>
>> >If he could see them he can delete them.
>>
>> If it was working correctly, perhaps. That is a much larger 'if' in
>> the Windows world than you might believe.
>
> FDISK is not the windows world, it's a utility that's been around since
> the early 80s and doing it's job for, what, 15 years, until this yutz
> comes along...
It does the job so long as the OS you're partitioning for is an MS OS.
Understandable, I guess, since its' a Microsoft tool. Frankly, most of
the folks I deal with abandoned it in favor of other tools ages ago.
Particularly the tools that allow partition resizing and multiple OS
support. The only use I have for it, at this stage, is restoring the MBR
if I pull a bonehead move and obliterate it.
>
>>
>> >If it was originally a linux system, Fdisk wouldn't report anything
>> >other than an unrecognized partition type and
> allow
>> >you to delete it without much warning. Linux wouldn't present apparent
> drive
>> >letters.
>>
>> Nor did it. The fdisk which mentioned 'drive letters' was the
>> Microsoft version.
>
> BUT it wouldn't mention drive letters if the previous partition was
> linux, it ONLY recognizes partitions of the DOS type ande everything
> else is represented simple as "unknown partition" and you can delete it
> with just three keystrokes EVERY single time. That's another reason to
> know it's a faked scenario. I've never had fdisk not delete an unknown
> partition, never in 10+ years.
It sometimes, and I stress sometimes, swears that DOS drive letters exist
in the extended partition area regardless of whether or not that area
ever contained a FAT volume.
>
>>
>> >In using Fdisk for, what, 10 years? I've never seen this behaviour and
>> >can find nothing documenting such a condition occuring. Hmm... gee...
> Oh
>> >but after he does an Fdisk the CD rom suddenly can boot? Um, yea
>> >right!
>>
>> One presumes that after the fdisk, he was able to get a boot image on
>> the drive, so he didn't *need* to boot from the CD. Get it?
>
> fdisk doesn't do that and why presume when he's just so detailed about
> everything else? why not deride us for how it took making a boot image
> and how tough that was and where he lost the cd but blames ms for it...
> etc etc. uhhuh...
>
>>
>> >Anyone can tell you the ability of a CD rom to boot the system is 100%
>> >independent of the hard drive. [...]
>>
>> If its just going to keep on going like this, I'll give up now. Your
>> claim that the original message was 'unbelievable' seems to be
>> hyperbole.
>
> in fact, I think I've proved it in many many ways. I think you gave up
> cause you could see where I was going. Too much evidence and you really
> have nothing to refute it with except "I think that could happen"...
> whereas I'm in the trenches doing it every day and know what I see and
> know what happens and what I've seen happening (and not happening) in
> 10+ years!
Then why were you not familiar with FDISK's behavior where extended
partitions are concerned?
--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions
Presently lurking in his Linux Partition
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:17:57 GMT
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:22:30 GMT, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
|news:96dg8p$9hj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|> > He is working on a Linux web server. He wants to do a global replace in
|> > VI. I tell him to use sed. He whines a bit, then tries it. I hear from
|>
|> The syntax is the same in vi and sed. IN vi, alll you need to do is
|> prepend a % or a 1,$ to the command.
|
|As long as something only occurs a maximum of once on each line, eh?
Well, as he said, syntax is the same in sed & vi. In both cases you need to
add a 'g' for global after the closing delimiter of the substitution.
|I think you have a point, though, unless Mark's friend is taking advantage
|of more than just a global search and replace capability. The thing is, I
|know Mark knows how to do a global replace in vi, so I'm reasonably sure
|that he's doing something with sed that would be relatively painful in vi.
If you can do it in sed, it works exactly the same way in vi.
Both use the 'ed' engine behind the scenes.
|Relative is a strange term here, though, since I have always found sed to be
|more painful than almost anything. Except maybe vi.
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:17:57 GMT
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 05:45:17 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|Chad Myers wrote:
|
|> We still use telnet
|
|What's with the "we" business?
|
|perhaps you use telnet, I can't remember when I last used telnet.
I can. It was when I telneted to port 25 of a server to check the SMTP
server.
For actual interactive use (including tunneling X over an encrypted
link for remote disply) I use SSH (or free equivalent).
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:39:03 -0600
"Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Well, I don't particular agree with his comments in particular, though
he
> > does have a partial point. Open Source does threaten commercial
software
> > innovation. Why should a company (not just MS) invest millions into R&D
> > when open source peoplewill come along and offer a free version?
> >
> > On a side note, why is it that the words of one man are always taken as
> the
> > official word of MS? When Jim Clark sent a letter to MS begging them to
> buy
> > Netscape, Barksdale dismissed it as not being an official statement of
the
> > company, yet he was the president, not just a VP as Alchin is.
>
> For god's sake, redeem your soul before it's too late and just condemn
this
> statement from Microsoft, at least. You are letting pride blind you to
the
> obvious.
I already said I don't agree with him. Are you so blind that you fail to
understand that?
> You too can recover from Microsoft addiction - I'm doing it right now.
Looks more like you've replaced one addiction with another.
> ps - I'm serious.
My condolances.
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Whiners
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:32:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthias Warkus"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was the Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:36:16 -0500...
> ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > which is naturally a lot worse than, say, the KKK
>> >
>> > Fortunately they're largely ignored or ridiculed. Most are breeding
>> > themselves out of existance by marrying first cousins. Kind of like
>> > the European Royal Families only they live in trailers and seldom
>> > bathe.
>>
>> Come to think of it...European Royal Families weren't known for the
>> best bathing habits, either.
>
> At the heyday of baroque absolutism, the nobility didn't bathe at all
> because it was supposed to be unhealthy. It's also noteworthy that most
> trailers feature better sanitation that your typical 17th century
> castle. Versailles, for example, had zero toilets, for lack of a moat
> <g>. The usual way of dealing with your bodily functions was just
> sitting down somewhere in a corner and letting the personnel take care
> of the residue.
You're absolutely right. When I originally made the trailer comment, I
was thinking of the modern era, though...<g>
--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions
Presently lurking in his Linux Partition
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux 64 bit and Windows 32 bit
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:42:08 -0600
"Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:96ibi4$qj6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <2DNg6.625$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:95vb1l$c86$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> Hell, Linux needed a new version to support Itanium too. The 2.4
> >> >> kernel.
> >>
> >> If 2.4 wasn't in the works at the time, 2.2 would have supported it,
> >> but everyone was working on 2.4.
> >
> > And you think this is any different for Whistler?
>
> sure, with Linux, it's available now...
It seems unlikely that the Itanium code can be called finished until the
chip ships.
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:50:50 -0500
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Threat: non-existant
mlw wrote:
> I am an ex-windows developer. I HATE the whole visual studio vision Microsoft
> has. It feels like driving a very well appointed motor home.
> The visual studio project stuff is a joke, the project building is a joke, the
> whole thing falls apart the instance you have to manage multiple people working
> on a project, and the editor sucks.
Believe it or not, I like the Win32 version of XEmacs for the limited
amount of time I spend writing Windows programs. When I did Win32 devel
in the past, my favorite compiler was gcc. That was over a year ago,
and now, the Cygwin development tools are better than ever. With the
Cygwin port of gcc, you can opt to compile without the POSIX layer, ie,
gcc will be in mingwin32 mode. This allows Win programs to run much
faster when you don't need the unix layer.
So, did you try the Cygwin32 tools, and how would you rate them compared
to Developer Studio 6.0, for example?
Just curious.
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:03:45 GMT
In article <AuMi6.610$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:06:22 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> > I think you're reading a lot more "into" the "plan" than is there.
>> > Yes, MS has a lot of dreams for what they would like to do, but I
>> > doubt even half of them will become reality. That doesn't mean .NET
>> > won't be useful and quite popular.
>>
>> The difference this time is that many of the "dreams" involve things
>> that are good for MS but bad for the user. This time even Winvocates
>> are hoping that some of the dreams _don't_ come true.
>
> This time? I didn't agree with Windows 3.x (I was an Amiga and OS/2
> user until Win95). I didn't agree with MS Bob. I prefer Quicken over
> MS Money. I grudgingly use Visual SourceSafe, mostly because it's easier
> to use, even if it frustrates me quite often.
That particular program is the bane of our existance. We've had files
literally being checked out at random with SourceSafe refusing to let go
until the fix tool was run. We've had it completely ignore changes to
code. If there were another integrated solution, we'd shell out whatever
the asking price was to get it.
--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions
Presently lurking in his Linux Partition
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:09:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Giuliano Colla"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>
>> Giuliano Colla wrote:
>> >
>> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>> > >
>> > [...]
>> > >
>> > > "Asshole" is reserved for people like Goodwin and Myers who
>> > > constantly
>> > > post all kinds of lies.
>> > >
>> > > The remaining Windows admins are merely idiots.
>> > >
>> > > [Idiots because only an idiot would work for 1/5 the pay of a Unix
>> > > admin while doing 10x as much labor to accomplish 1/10 as much]
>> > >
>> >
>> > Sorry, but I disagree. If they can only point and click,
>>
>> that's why I call them idiots.
>>
>> > what should
>> > they do? Apply for a Unix admin position?
>>
>> Take the first step and learn how to use Unix at the user level.
>>
>> > They're just taking advantage of a situation where being competent or
>> > not doesn't make any real difference. Or they've just been unlucky.
>> > In that case they use Linux at home.
>>
>> The marketplace is STARVING for Unix admins...
>>
>
> Honestly, I didn't know.
I see the very same thing where I'm at. (Chattanooga, TN.) The word
merely getting out that you have UNIX/Linux experience garners offers.
--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions
Presently lurking in his Linux Partition
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