Linux-Advocacy Digest #246, Volume #32 Fri, 16 Feb 01 19:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Interesting article (Steve Mading)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Interesting article (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Linux Threat: non-existant (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Tim Hanson)
Re: Interesting article (Steve Mading)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Font deuglification ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on the desktop ("Edward Rosten")
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:59:45 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike
Martinet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>>
>> > It's interesting to note that the whole phenomenon of Microsoft vs.
>> > Open Source most likely wouldn't exist had IBM not (albeit,
>> > unthinkingly)
>> > 'open-sourced' the PC architecture.
>>
>> Not true. Visit www.gnu.org and look under `Why we are here'
>>
>> -Ed
>>
>
> HUP! I glanced at 'Why We Exist' on gnu.org - I couldn't find a
> history, per se, and I didn't notice a mention of platform. Who, in
> your opinion, if not MS, would be challenging Open Source if MS hadn't
> risen to dominance on the IBM clone platform? And Open Source in what
> form? Linux on x86 most certainly wouldn't be a threat, either. Would
> it? What am I missing here?
>
> My point is/was the irony that both MS and Linux owe their current
> status to the historically cheap availability of IBM clones. Something
> that was only possible because IBM inadvertently gave the hardware
> licensing away.
IIRC, GNU was founded befre MS was big, in order to provide a free UNIX.
They would still be here with or without MS. Bear in mind the Linux and
NetBSD run on many different platforms, even the non `open sourced' ones.
If that wasn't the link, I'll have to take another look. I read it
somewhere on the site.
> I could be wrong. It's happened before, ask my wife. :)
just don't ask my SO.
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: 16 Feb 2001 22:52:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: No, really, I want to know.
: When it's good for Linux, Linux is Unix. When it's bad for Linux,
: Linux isn't Unix.
Bull. There are many Unixen, of which Linux is one in every
way except the legal trademark way. This is very simple, and
very consistent. When speaking on technical issues, Linux is
one of the Unixes. When speaking on legal or corporate issues,
(trademark discussions, or discussing how "unix companies" tend
to act) it is not.
Now, speaking on technical issues, both statements: "Linux is Unix"
and "Linux is not UNIX" don't really fit 100%. UNIX is a set of
OSes, ONE of which is Linux. Niether sentence tells the whole
story. You are comparing a set to a scalar. This might be why
you are confused on this very simple issue. That's why
I was careful to phrase it as "Linux is ONE OF THE Unixen".
But English is a sloppy language, where it is *sometimes* acceptable
to say "A is B" when you really mean "A is a subset of B"
(Example, "a bannana is fruit". This is because nouns sometimes
are treated like objects and sometimes like classes, depending
on context. UNIX is such a noun.)
: I wish you guys would make up your mind and stick to something,
: because it really just makes you look like idiots. But then,
: we always knew that, I guess.
Speaking in the royal "we", are "we", Chad?
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:05:54 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ketil Z Malde"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> 64 bits operating systems are extreme overkill
>
>> 32 bits are underkill. 64 bits is the next logical step.
>> 2x as wide bus, 2x as much data per clock cycle.
>
> This is entirely incorrect. We've had 64bit data busses in PCs at least
> since the introduction of the Pentium.
The Pentium can only operate on 32 bits at a time. It has a 32 bit ALU.
>> IA64 runs IA32 code like a P100, so they really, really need a 64 bit
>> OS in order to run at a decent speed.
>
> This is also hogwash - a 64bit OS is probably slower. What you
> probably
No, I mean a 64 bit OS at N Mhz will be faster than a 32 bit OS at N mhz.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:08:39 GMT
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> Then, to your mind the blind should not believe in light, nor the
> >>> deaf ins sound?
>
> >> They have good evidence for the existence of light. They can perform
> >> experiments to verify its existence. For example, they can get two
> >> seeing friends to stand 100 yards apart. They can whisper to one
> >> and ask him to raise a handkerchief, or drop it to the ground. They can
> >> then walk the 100 yards to the other friend, and ask him if they
> >> had whispered the command to raise or drop to the other friend. Repeat
> >> to taste.
>
> >> Then try it when the two friends are separated by a tall building.
>
> > How does he know that all his friends are not really voices in his
> > head?
>
> He doesn't. That is a separate theory that requires separate testing.
>
>
>
> > What is the difference between a "fixpoint theorem" and a "faith
> > in a belief"?
>
> Fixpoint theorems can be proved purely formally, without any recourse to
> semantics. "every contraction mapping in a locally compact metric space
> has a fixed point". "Every increasing continuous functional in a
> distributive lattice has a fixed point", etc. etc. For the locally
> compact metric space take R3 and you get the "hairy ball theorem"
^^
you mean S^2.
> (comb a ball and there is a bald patch - actually an even more
> interesting pair of points too). For the lattice take the sentences
> of an axiom system, connected by the entailment relation, and for
> the functional take the provability operator, and you find that
> there's an interesting sentence ...
and then you look at physical systems and their behavior and somehow
they match certain mathematics, or their behavior stimulates the
development of mathematics. i find it surprising and fascinating that
nature follows some rather simple mathematical rules. for example,
out of all the possible functions out there, why do continuous ones
work so often?
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:10:05 GMT
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Bloody Viking wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Walt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> > > > : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> > > > : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> > > >
> > > > And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> > > > the election debacle that ensued.
> > >
> > > So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> > > counties?
> >
> > it's a simple matter of statistics. imagine two voting districts.
> > one 70% repulican, 30% democrat. one 30% R and 70% D.
> > say that 10% of all ballots are not counted for whatever reason.
> > suppose further that political affiliation is independent to
> > counted/uncounted ballots. then, every ballot recovered in the
> > former, largely republican district, will be more likely to be
> > republican. in the latter district, they will tend to be democratic.
> > of course gore will push for a recount where it will help him most.
> >
>
> It still doesn't change the fact that by challenging their counts,
> Gore was calling the Democrat-run election boards a bunch of liars.
are you trying to imply that al gore challenged the results in
democrat controlled voting districts in order to call them a bunch of
liars? or are you trying to change the subject?
>
> > both parties did what they could to win. believing the rhetoric of
> > either of them is silly.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:02:57 +0100
Steve Mading wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : No, really, what has changed dramatically in Unix in the
> : last 10 years?
>
> : We still use telnet
>
> Never heard of ssh?
>
No, Chad has not heard of ssh, because windows hasn`t got any.
W2K has telnet, and a real crappy one to boot. Anyone can just
deny anyone else to telnet to that machine.
But who would expect MS to build something that actually works?
Peter
--
begin I-LOVE-WINDOWS.txt.vbs
http://www.klickibunti.org/buntibunti.html
Society against GUI Domination
end
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Threat: non-existant
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:44:21 +0100
Boris Dynin wrote:
> Wow, asshole from F*cking fathreland. Fuck off you retard.
>
> Boris
Hi Chad, now posting as Boris the horrible too?
And your manners now at an all time low in addition.
Boris, leave any country someone`s living in out of here.
We don`t need these silly "my countries better than...." games
But i would not expect someone dumb enough to use windows
to understand such basic things.
You should start to take your medicine also, Boris
Peter
--
begin I-LOVE-WINDOWS.txt.vbs
http://www.klickibunti.org/buntibunti.html
Society against GUI Domination
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:09:57 +0100
Boris Dynin wrote:
> Why don't you fuck off NT newsgroup, you idiot. Don't crosspost your crap,
> retard.
>
> Boris
> "petilon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > After killing innovation in the web browser market by distributing
> > IE for free, Microsoft is now calling Linux a "threat to innovation"
> > because it is being distributed for free.
> >
> > "There is always something enamoring about thinking you can get
> > something for free." says Jim Allchin of Microsoft.
> >
> > Read the outrageous story at:
> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4833927.html?tag=owv
> >
>
I`m sure he will do that, when in turn YOU stop those wintendo-retards
like Chad Myers. He is so dumb that he is even an insult to Windows-users.
--
begin I-LOVE-WINDOWS.txt.vbs
http://www.klickibunti.org/buntibunti.html
Society against GUI Domination
end
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:19:12 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Tim Hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > No doubt Allchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) knows full well what he's
> > > doing. He's extracting a little mileage out of Napster concerns to
> > > equate open source software to stealing songs over the 'net. I'm sure
> > > he and his cronies are having a laugh over the gullibility of that
> > > interviewer (and at how angry they made Linux advocates) now.
> > >
> > > These are evil people. Really down there.
> >
> > That is something that concerns me. Microsoft is "evil" but not because it
> > intends to do wrong, but it intends to do without regard, and sometimes to
> the
> > spite, of others.
> >
> > Looking back, M$ was once the little guy, and we cheered it on because we
> > thought it would change things. It has become Fidel Castro, using past
> > revolutionary glory to hide its crimes and be the "establishment." Meet
> the new
> > boss, same as the old boss. Perhaps we should have chosen CP/M, maybe
> Kildal
> > would have conducted business with just a few more scruples.
>
> You don't recall much of CP/M, do you?
>
> What we needed is ANSI API.
> Something like Java or .NET that any OS should have follow, which would've
> allowed you to develop against it, knowing that it would work reasonably
> well on all platforms.
> We needed it on the 80s, especially the *nixes, but the home market would've
> profit from that as well.
That's the fine line open source tries to walk. Java and dot net are
owned by private companies, which administer in their own interests,
regardless of the interest of others and specifically against the
interests of their competitors. They have that duty to their
shareholders above that to the community which uses the standards. Add
that to the dynamic growth in APIs as the field progresses and we have
chaos.
One can't subvert or pollute software licensed under the GPL. By using
GPL in your program you are agreeing that your work is also under that
license, so code forking hijacking standards, and all the other
proprietary sins are impossible.
I agree that GPL code is not for everything, but for the infrastructure
there's nothing like it.
--
"I do not know myself, and God forbid that I should."
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
------------------------------
From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: 16 Feb 2001 23:13:23 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy The Ghost In The Machine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: X *does* crash. There are specific circumstances -- the simplest one
: being bad hardware, of course -- where it can be forced down.
: It can also hang, generate weird-looking output, or blank the screen
: unpredictably -- there's even a case where it can render a console
: totally useless (if one's using SVGATextMode, an older version of X
: didn't restore the VGA registers correctly).
This depends on what Chad means by "X". Is he referring to the
protocol or the plethora of servers and clients that implement it?
The protocol is well tested, and while a bit odd, quite robust.
If he meant the implementations of it, in the form of Xservers
and Xclients, then he has to realize that it's a set of independant
implementations, some of which will be better than others. Xfree86
does tend to crash a lot on some types of hardware where the drivers
aren't as mature. But Xfree86 is only one implementation. I have yet
to see X crash on the SGI's at work. I have not tried the other X's
available for Linux (MetroX and AcellX), so I can't comment on their
crash-ness or lack thereof.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:21:08 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Flacco wrote:
> >>
> >> > The market will speak on this. MS can't force people.
> >>
> >> ...unless they manage to outlaw open source software.
>
> > That's impossible in the US.
>
> > First Amendment.
>
> McCarthy hearings.
>
> Not only is it possible, but it has happened, is happening,
> and will happen again.
McCarthy never abridged free speech.
By the way...not only was McCarthy right about communist
infiltration of the State Department....he under-stated
the problem by nearly an order of magnitude.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:21:52 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > We still use telnet
> >> >
> >> > What's with the "we" business?
> >> >
> >> > perhaps you use telnet, I can't remember when I last used telnet.
> >>
> >> You use SSH, I'm sure, which is the same thing, with sugar coating.
> >> It's still the same 70's technology.
> >>
>
> > Which was used, at least up to last year by Microsoft.
> > Whenever you install TCP/IP protocol, Telnet gets installed,
> > usually among Accessories. I don't know if it has
> > disappeared from Win2k, and I don't give a damn, but I bet
> > it's still there.
>
> What chad doesnt realize is that KEYBOARDS AND CRTS are that same
> "70s technology" that hes always railing against. Chad does not
> have a point, never had a point, and is exceedingly stupid.
>
Oh...come on... Chad has a point.....
.... at the top of his head.
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:23:23 -0500
"[Bad-Knees]" wrote:
>
> Guns are bad mmmkay!
Really? So, like, when US Soldiers were slaughtering brigades
of Hitler Youth graduates .... those M1 Garand rifles they were
carrying were "bad"????
> Gnu is good!
>
> By the how did you guys mix up a decent desktop, with human rights'n
> stuff
>
> ..if it ain't broke, tweak it.
>
> [Bad-Knees] (Whats so bad about knees anyway)
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >>
> >> "pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Flacco wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I think I see where this is going.
> >> > >
> >> > > Does anyone remember the press release by Ximian awhile ago about
> >> > > the Chinese getting involved with the GNOME project? Enough FUD in
> >> > > there to feed an army.
> >> > >
> >> > > That said - note to Ximian - please provide a distribution that has
> >> > > not
> >> been
> >> > > touched by the bloody hands of the CCP, for those of us who still
> >> remember
> >> > > Tiananmen.
> >> >
> >> > Erm - please remind me: in what way does Ximinan support the the
> >> > dictatorial policies of China?
> >>
> >> Well, it appears in todays society, having anything to do with a human
> >> rights violator is tantamount to committing the violations yourself.
> >> For instance, IBM is being sued because they sold tabulation machines
> >> to the Nazi's for use in their death camps. Surely, if IBM loses,
> >> knowingly cooperating with human rights violators would be the same.
> >>
> >> > What Ximinan _does_ support is making things a whole lot better for
> >> > Linux users.
> >>
> >> At the cost of a few human lives. (if you don't see the connection,
> >> look harder. If the Chinese government uses Linux for their primary
> >> OS, and changes are contributed to support the Chinese government, then
> >> clearly Linux is actively being used to assist human rights violations)
> >>
> >
> > On one hand:
> >
> > Guns are bad....because Nazis and Communists use them to kill innocent
> > people
> >
> > On the other hand:
> >
> > Guns are good...because we use them to kill Nazis and Communists.
> >
> >
> > However...there is a THIRD possibility...namely that there is nothing
> > moral nor immoral about a gun...it's the ACTIONS OF THE PERSON using it.
> >
> > Same for Linux and the Chinese.
> >
> > Linux isn't immoral...it's the CHINESE GOVERNMENT that is.
> >
> >
> >
> >> If that doesn't matter to you, no big deal. If it does, you'd be a
> >> hypocrite to use Linux.
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Font deuglification
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:26:21 +0000
In article <96k3k4$4nf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andres Soolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> David Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : need is the cmr fonts under X.
>> I agree. Microsoft did a very good job of designing those fonts. If
> Microsoft? AFAIK, the cmr font family was designed by D. E. Knuth ...
Correct. And a danm good job he did too. Would cost about £500 to get
fonts of that quality.
If I ever have time (which I won't) I'll write a metafont bit for xfs.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on the desktop
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:28:07 +0000
In article <ox7j6.28893$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Paul
Dossett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mike Martinet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Before I spent much time in this NG, I would have agreed with you. But
>> just yesterday I read something that's near and dear to my heart -
>> Linux can play several MP3's at once. I had just assumed that the
>> inability of Windows to output a ding-dong sound when something went
>> wrong while I was listening to a WAV or an MP3 was a hardware
>> limitation. It's not. The OS is simply not flexible enough to handle
>> two inputs to the same piece of hardware simultaneously. Someone then
>> posted a pretty funny question - "Why would you want to run several
>> MP3's at once? The din must be horrible" - and I had to laugh. But, I
>> love to seque songs. One of the main things I do with my Windows OS is
>> compilation recording. To date, all I've used my Linux machine for is
>> server tasks; mail, firewall, gateway, etc. But now I'm going to have
>> to take some time and fool around with the desktop just so I can look
>> into these claims.
>
> Um, my Windows box plays several MP3s at once without any problem.
> Perhaps your hardware is not up to the task? Most modern soundcards
> will mix up to
> 64 streams of audio IN HARDWARE, and yes, Windows does allow it.
>
> Unless of course my Windows box is MAGICAL.
Why do you play several MP3s at once? It must sound truly awful. Please
explain this to me.
-Ed
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