Linux-Advocacy Digest #252, Volume #32 Sat, 17 Feb 01 00:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Hmm interesting quote from Kulkis on alt.support.depression (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all (Brent Pathakis)
Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Hmm interesting quote from Kulkis on alt.support.depression (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Hmm interesting quote from Kulkis on alt.support.depression (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: ReiserFS (Tim)
Re: Interesting article ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hmm interesting quote from Kulkis on alt.support.depression
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:38:13 -0500
Paul Teale wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >
> > meow wrote:
> > >
> > > "Yes its true. My uncle abused me as a child and i never got over it. I
> > > now get back at the world by talking shite on newsgroups"
> > >
> >
> > I did not write that.
> >
>
> From the search i did it seems your a bit of a regular in there
I've never posted in there.
I suggest you read the nntp headers more carefully.
>
> >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> > >
> > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > > you are lazy, stupid people"
> > >
> > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> > >
> > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> > >
> > > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> > >
> > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > > direction that she doesn't like.
> > >
> > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> > >
> > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > > ...despite (C) above.
> > >
> > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > > her behavior improves.
> > >
> > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Brent Pathakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:40:37 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:956t7e$sjn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Again, Mandrake 7.2 is throughly hard modified to support USB without
> > > "a hitch". As for the HID device (your mouse) Windows will find that
> > > instantly, just like most other USB peripherals on "the market".
> > > XFree86 doesn't even recognize USB devices yet, it has to rely on GPM
> > > and other OS level support for the peripheral.
> >
> > You just don't understand, do you. That's the beauty of a modular
> > operating system. Every program that wants to use a mouse has to know
> > about a generic mouse. Only one program needs to know about every kind
> > of mouse. That makes all the programs smaller and bug free. What you
> > think is a bad thing is actually a very good thing.
>
> Ok, modular is only beautiful when it works, which it doesn't. If the
> Distro doesn't have USB backporting, AND a specialy modified GPM to work
> with the USB HID devices, then XFree doesn't work with USB mice.
>
> Even then, if ALL are present and accounted for, they may not be set up to
> work togather.
>
> Modularization is only good when the modules "talk" to each other. Which
> isn't usualy the case in this scheme. Which is just plain dumb.
>
>
Itr works if you know how to make it work.
personally, windows is complete pain in the ass when i tries to autodetect
and autoinstall a driver and fails, I'd much rather know how to do it
myselft than have to OS try and do it for me and fail.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows XP! Will it really be reliable?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:43:49 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> >
> >Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Marten Kemp wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >> >> >> <<snip>>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > When you compare the development cycle between Intel and AMD,
> >> >> >> > AMD is not hindered by secret contracts with Microsoft.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If anything, you will hear a slosh in the boots of Intel as they
> >> >> >> > walk away from the next encounter from AMD.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If I was the president of Intel, I would tell MS to just fuck off.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Charlie
> >> >> >> What secret contracts? Special opcodes they only tell Microsoft about?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >MS tells them what opcodes they want Intel to implement....or something.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh please gentlemen!
> >> >
> >> >it's a joke, Charlie....
> >> >laugh a little.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you telling me that nobody is aware of the 64 bit Intel processor
> >> >> used in the HP-9000 series? It's been on the road for along time now.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's the same damn chip. But it's available ONLY for mainframe use.
> >> >
> >> >I'm well aware of this.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> You mean to tell me you guys didn't know that?
> >> >>
> >> >> They are under contract to sit on this chip until Microsoft get's finished
> >> >> working the bugs out of their 64 bit code.
> >> >
> >> >That's the secret contract referred to above...
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Go call an HP rep and ask him what kind of CPU is used in an HP-9000
> >> >> mainframe computer.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> -- Marten Kemp
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
> >> >> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
> >> >> >ICQ # 3056642
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Charlie
> >> >>
> >> >> **DEBIAN** **GNU**
> >> >> / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
> >> >> / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
> >> >> /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
> >> >> http://www.debian.org
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
> >> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
> >> >ICQ # 3056642
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I knew *YOU* knew about this AK.
> >>
> >> But what of the rest of them.
> >>
> >> Do *THEY* know that all HP customers are
> >> signing non-disclosure agreements to cover
> >> this fact up????
> >>
> >> Do I give a shit! NO.
> >>
> >> But this is absolutely true. Intel has
> >> a pac with Microsoft so Microsoft has time
> >> to finish up it's 64 bit OS before Intel's
> >> chip hit's market.
> >>
> >> A chip which was largely designed by HP.
> >>
> >> And BTW, HP contributed greately to the Linux
> >> 64 bit kernel which was actually READY BEFORE
> >> the HP-9000's ever started using this processor.
> >>
> >> And one more FYI. There *IS* a very good possibilty
> >> that HP-UX will be penguified in a couple of years.
> >
> >Why not. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than maintaining HP-UX.
> >
> >
>
> This is mere speculation, but this reasoning is VERY GOOD...
>
My bet is that within 5 years, it will be impossible for even the
commercial Unixes to compete with Linux.
Sun, HP, IBM, even SGI will all standardize on Linux, and
will be reduced to selling cutting-edge extensions to the
OS (i.e. the way Logical Volume Managers were considered to
be an extra-layer on top of standard Unix 8 years ago).
> --
> Charlie
>
> **DEBIAN** **GNU**
> / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
> / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
> /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
> http://www.debian.org
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: 17 Feb 2001 04:45:39 GMT
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Flacco wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > The market will speak on this. MS can't force people.
>> >>
>> >> ...unless they manage to outlaw open source software.
>>
>> > That's impossible in the US.
>>
>> > First Amendment.
>>
>> McCarthy hearings.
>>
>> Not only is it possible, but it has happened, is happening,
>> and will happen again.
> McCarthy never abridged free speech.
No he didnt. But if you associated with people who were known
to talk about communism in public, your career was over, and very
often you were sent to prison.
So you could SAY what you wanted, you would simply be imprisoned
for it.
> By the way...not only was McCarthy right about communist
> infiltration of the State Department....he under-stated
> the problem by nearly an order of magnitude.
Really? Did he have to kill the careers of 800 hollywood personalities
who did nothing more than TALK to communists to do it?
Fascism is ugly whether its american or not.
=====.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hmm interesting quote from Kulkis on alt.support.depression
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:50:07 -0500
Paul Teale wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >
> > meow wrote:
> > >
> > > "Yes its true. My uncle abused me as a child and i never got over it. I
> > > now get back at the world by talking shite on newsgroups"
> > >
> >
> > I did not write that.
> >
>
> From the search i did it seems your a bit of a regular in there
Then how come there are ZERO articles posted by me there?
DOH!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hmm interesting quote from Kulkis on alt.support.depression
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:51:04 -0500
Paul Teale wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >
> > meow wrote:
> > >
> > > "Yes its true. My uncle abused me as a child and i never got over it. I
> > > now get back at the world by talking shite on newsgroups"
> > >
> >
> > I did not write that.
> >
>
> From the search i did it seems your a bit of a regular in there
>From the search *I* did, there aren't even forgeries there.
>
> >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> > >
> > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > > you are lazy, stupid people"
> > >
> > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> > >
> > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> > >
> > > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> > >
> > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > > direction that she doesn't like.
> > >
> > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> > >
> > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > > ...despite (C) above.
> > >
> > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > > her behavior improves.
> > >
> > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ReiserFS
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:53:22 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:49:12 -0500, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I tried it. It is interesting, but no thanks. It seems slower than ext2
>for most everything I do.
Duh!
http://www.moelabs.com/jfs_faq.html
[...]
Q: How fast is JFS compared to ext2?
A: Folks, there is no way around it: journaling is slower inherently
compared to
non-journaling file systems. Some code has to make for the added
security and
that code slows down I/O operations. The good news is that not even
ext2fs is
as fast as it could be theoretically, so JFS tries to improve things
by being fast
at basic I/O operations, be they for journaling or for data.
[...]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: 17 Feb 2001 04:53:40 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Ketil Z Malde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > No, really, what has changed dramatically in Unix in the
>> > last 10 years?
>>
>> Lots.
> Like? A bunch of cosmetic changes and hardware updates, maybe,
> but other than that, not much.
You have quite obviously never used any kind of unix operating
system.
>> > We still use telnet
>>
>> Only if you're really backwards. It's called ssh these days.
> Same difference. Same 70's technologies. This is great, I love
> how you guys think that SSH is some major advancement. It's
> still telnet, just with encryption, and shoddy encryption at that!
Shoddy encryption. Alright chad, break my 2048 bit keypair. I'm
typing this over an ssh connection right now; be impressive and
tell me where this keyboard I'm typing on exists. An ip address
will be fine.
>> > We still use crappy old XWindows
>>
>> Which ensures 10 year old programs still run, but with a bunch of new
>> additions, like OpenGL, Xv, Render, and what have you.
> Albeit unreliably
Xv unreliable? You've never used it.
>>
>> > Unix still has the brain-dead permission bits security.
>>
>> Which are simple to use, and makes it very easy to get a quick
>> overview over permissions in a directory.
> But is really insecure and doesn't provide much security
> for a secure installation at all.
Insecure? Chad, tell me the name of the file that this post will be
saved as on my local machine. I'll give you a hint (as well as help
with the challenge above): I'm typing this on a FreeBSD 4.2 Stable
system.
>> And gives you functionality like setgid, setuid and sticky.
>> Of course, if you need them, you can use ACLs on most if not every Unix, but
> most
>> people prefer to do without.
> Which is a shame, because perm bits really sucks in every way.
Like what, specifically?
>>
>> > Even though many Unix vendors have implemented DAC, many
>> > people still insist on using permission bits.
>>
>> DAC?
> See, you guys don't even know the basics. How can you even say
> that permission bits are good when you don't even know what
> the alternatives are. Wake up and smell the coffee. Perm bits
> are ancient, a poor design, and are really unsecure.
How, precisely?
> You should
> look at DAC, it's way better in every way. And no, it's not
> a Microsoft thing. Microsoft used that design, but some
> Unixes, Novell, Baynan, and many other vendors use it. It's
> required by the DoD for their trusted systems (of which NT 4.0
> is).
Once again, you dont seem to be willing to give details of this
"superiority".
>>
>> > Nothing's really changed.
>>
>> Perhaps you should get out more?
> I have yet to see anything that has changed except for small
> cosmetic changes. SSH is not a change, it's an update to a
> stil-old system. OpenGL in X is a slight change, but nothing
> major.
The BSD tcp stack has been incorporated into two major operating
systems, one of which you have professed your bizzare love for
over and over.
=====.
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