Linux-Advocacy Digest #377, Volume #32 Wed, 21 Feb 01 15:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. ("dev null")
Re: Who said LinZealots know contractions? ("dev null")
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. ("Masha Ku'Inanna")
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source ("dev null")
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux (Tim Hanson)
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. ("dev null")
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. ("surrender")
Re: Check out this Windows bug (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (J.B Moreno)
Re: Incredible developments in Italy regarding business software (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Peter Hayes)
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. (Donn Miller)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. (Brian Langenberger)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Tim Hanson)
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source (Craig Kelley)
Re: The Windows guy. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
LPI Certification ("Martin Kai")
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From: "dev null" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:31:58 -0500
Yeah, I hear ya.
For even more information about the crashing down of the Linux euphoria,
check out:
VA Linux posts big loss, will lay off 139
http://www0.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/indepth/docs/linux022101.htm
Now, what was all that I read in here earlier about how MS was 'dead' ????
hehe....
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Well it's not exactly gone yet, but it's well on the way.
>
>
>
http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews/story.tmpl?table=n&cat=50300&id=20010
2211148000244539
>
>
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: "dev null" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who said LinZealots know contractions?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:40:22 -0500
Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ...
Can't help but wonder how effective these guys are with pointers.
> I think if it's poorly designed, your screwed even if it is open source.
> The fact that it's open source makes it easier to tidy up glitches in
> implementation but doesn't buy you much more than that.
>
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
---
Airhead R. Klueless
Human garbage wrapped in skin
Moron Minister of all I foul
ICQ # 666
H: "I am stupid people"
I: "I am a COMMUNIST ***hole"
J: My mother is an old hag who has hit the wall....
A: I am a fool mocked by wise men.
B: I spew out nonsense as a method of sidetracking discussions which are
headed in a
direction that I don't like.
C: Everyone should really killfile me.
D: I travel from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: I am not worthy of the time to compose a response until
my behavior improves.
F: I have pictures of Jimmy Baker committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: I am a retard.
---
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From: "Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:40:31 -0500
Reply-To: "Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Didn't Linux exist long before companies came along to assemble and market
distributions?
VA, Redhat, Caldera, etc, are not Linux. They're just companies that market
a distribution of Linux. The "euphoria" that people speak of was the
euphoria of those interested in the commercialization of a product, and who
smelled profit and bought into the over-hype.
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From: "dev null" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:43:16 -0500
> What happens if we apply their own criteria to Microsoft software?
> Taxpayers pay for it, but it gets "locked away" in Redmond instead of
> being available for general use. So, we don't have any access to the
> source at all *and* we aren't alowed to publish/review the contents
> therin.
Just what I know *I* want. Cola regulars reviewing the source for
applications I depend on.
Whew! Why don't I just type my thesis in vim with my eyes closed, and then
turn it in.
End result would be the about the same.
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:55:51 GMT
Karel Jansens wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 19 Feb 2001
> >
> >>MS made Win32 programs work with existing DOS and windows drivers,
> >>something that OS/2 didn't do. This was important to consumers, as was
> >>the solid look and feel.[...]
> >
> > Blah blah blah. OS/2's only failing was it was competitive; Windows
> > only value was Microsoft's anti-competitive control of the market.
> >
> > Everything else is pointless second-guessing. If MS *hadn't* broken the
> > law by monopolizing and thereby prevented the market from making
> > choices, it is possible that the market would have agreed with your
> > ingenuous and cursory analysis. Based on what happened subsequent to
> > MS's anti-competitive strategies, however, it seems highly unlikely.
> >
>
> There is a strangely persistent rumour in OS/2 circles that IBM had full
> Win32 support as good as ready for the launch of Warp 4, but that they
> "chose" to leave it out of the finished product, after considerable
> "persuasion" from Microsoft.
Whether or not that is true is moot. It's plausible because we have the
court record that M$ did it to IBM previously and got caught at it, the
record in other circumstances shows M$ is by no means above that kind of
behavior, and we know IBM had the knowledge of the Win32 API to do that
kind of project.
>
> It couldn't have been that difficult (*), given that the ODIN project (an open
> source initiative of the OS/2 NetLabs) is pretty much achieving that goal
> right now (It's pretty nifty: instead of going for the WinOS/2 emulation,
> ODIN translates Win32 executables into OS/2 exes, so you end up with Word
> 2000 for OS/2(**)!).
I wish we had a project like that going in the Linux world. It wouldn't
even need to be perfect. Developers could take an imperfect
implementation and fix it once it's ported.
>
> (*) Not putting down the ODIN crowd, of course!
> (**) Assuming anyone would really _want_ that...
Sure we'd want that. It would instantly fulfill the Wine project's
unfulfilled promise, while giving Windows users an alternative for
hundreds of applications.
--
Over the years, I've developed my sense of deja vu so acutely that now
I can remember things that *have* happened before ...
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From: "dev null" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:00:54 -0500
Those are the facts, yes, I agree.
Another fact is that the omni-present war cry of the LinZealots is the
mocking phrase "you will be assimilated" by Linux. They usually point to
this very same corporate acceptance of Linux as the basis for making such
bold assertions.
This corporate obsession was tantamount to dot com insanity, which anyone
with half a brain realized.
More and more of these 'friends of Linux' companies that jumped on the
Torvalds Ego party will begin to back away. Just keep your eyes open.
Borland, marketing wizards that they are, went on a media blitz for the soon
to be released RAD port of Delphi to Linux (Kylix). Months I have waited in
anticipation of this release. Now, I have been told that a 'professional'
version of this product will cost $999. Almost twice what the Windows
version costs.
Am I going to purchase it as I had planned? Of course not. Not only because
of cost, but because I can hear the LinZealots now "I don't want no stinkin
Borland binary on my box!"
How long do you think Borland will be able to support Linux RAD development
via sales of this product?
After seeing Borland's investment fade into lost $$, how many more companies
will incur the $$ to migrate to Linux??
Companies, in the traditional sense, will not sustain an unprofitable model
for very long. They aren't quite as lemming-like as Amazon stock holders,
and Linux newbies.
Assimilate that.
"Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9711ts$r2f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Didn't Linux exist long before companies came along to assemble and market
> distributions?
>
> VA, Redhat, Caldera, etc, are not Linux. They're just companies that
market
> a distribution of Linux. The "euphoria" that people speak of was the
> euphoria of those interested in the commercialization of a product, and
who
> smelled profit and bought into the over-hype.
--
---
Airhead R. Klueless
Human garbage wrapped in skin
Moron Minister of all I foul
ICQ # 666
H: "I am stupid people"
I: "I am a COMMUNIST ***hole"
J: My mother is an old hag who has hit the wall....
A: I am a fool mocked by wise men.
B: I spew out nonsense as a method of sidetracking discussions which are
headed in a
direction that I don't like.
C: Everyone should really killfile me.
D: I travel from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: I am not worthy of the time to compose a response until
my behavior improves.
F: I have pictures of Jimmy Baker committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: I am a retard.
---
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From: "surrender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:59:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote something like:
> Well it's not exactly gone yet, but it's well on the way.
>
>
>
>http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews/story.tmpl?table=n&cat=50300&id=200102211148000244539
>
>
>
> Flatfish Why do they call it a flatfish? Remove the ++++ to reply.
lol, these trolls make me laugh
nearly all their posts are the same:
subject: linux is failing, ooooopsss there goes another one, the end is
near, whatever...
body: one url proving that they are so damn right, and that we should
have listened to MS when they were saying that linux is a fad. "Haha,
who's laughing now?"
sometimes I even wonder if they are still able to think fot
theirselves, because all they do is copy text written by someone else
(like MS in a way :).
Go see for yourself on comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy if you don't
believe me : "VA Linux cuts 25 per cent of staff ... - Chad Myers".
(except he added some comments for those who didn't understand the
article)
Anyway...
So yes, VA has some problems... But saying that linux will completely
disappear whitin a few months is just plain stupid.
PS: My English sucks, I know! :)
--
Greets
surrender
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Check out this Windows bug
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:02:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:12:54 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>Donn Miller wrote:
>>
>> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > He was attempting to prepare and move files.
>> > What's to question?
>>
>> I can't believe how bad FAT32 is! Damn, is there a worse filesystem out
>> there:
>
>FAT16
>FAT12
>
>
>> severe fragmentation, no symlinks, long file names is really a hack,
>> reliability is horrid. OTOH, I will give FAT credit for one thing. Isn't it
>> the best filesystem for very small filesystems, like say, for a 1.44 MB
>> floppy, for example? You know, if someone in 1991 (when I first started
>
>ext2fs on a floppy seems to hold more.
A small test case:
/h5/ewill/dumb/flop.ext2
1412 13 1327 1%
/h5/ewill/dumb/mount.ext2
/h5/ewill/dumb/flop.fat
1423 0 1423 0%
/h5/ewill/dumb/mount.fat
might be construed either way. (Don't pay too much attention to the '1327';
ext2 has a reserve factor that allows the superuser to write blocks when
ordinary users run out. The default is 5%. Also, I've folded the
lines to fit; otherwise, they'd run off the end of the 80-char
boundary. The mounts are using the loop device.)
Without lost+found, it actually would hold more, and for a floppy,
lost+found -- which is the same size regardless of disk size; there
doesn't seem to be an elegant method to override it -- is somewhat
pointless.
With lost+found, of course, the fat floppy has 11 more blocks.
Of course, even without lost+found, the number of blocks is only 2.
The cluster sizes also look the same.
The only issue that ext2 has is that user and group IDs are supported.
However, this is slightly pointless on a floppy (root can read
anything). :-)
There might be an issue with directory entries; on vfat (fat+Win95),
the short entries are the same, but the long entries take up twice
as much space per filename because it uses Unicode characters.
This may be partially offset by bigger inodes for ext2, but I'd have
to look up the details. I do find the vfat storage method hackish
and wasteful, however.
[rest snipped]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 16d:19h:22m actually running Linux.
Darn. Just when this message was getting good, too.
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.B Moreno)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:13:51 -0500
Gregory L. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> J.B Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-snip people are free not to use GPL software, so why complain-
> >This then applies to everything and there's no complaining about
> >anything. Thanks for solving that problem.
>
> I'm saying the person that originally decided to GPL his software owes
> nothing to you, don't pretend he does. Project 2 doesn't tank "because"
> of GPL, it tanks because the author is unwilling to put forth the effort
> to complete it.
Right. And if the project 1 requirement is that the author gets to
sleep with your sister or you pay a million bucks, or you have to have
your balls cut off before you can use project 1 in project 2, then again
it isn't the "fault" of project 1, it's simply that the project 2 guy
was unwilling to put forth the effort to meet the requirements.
Complaining about the GPL is no different than complaining about the
high price of software or the fact that it's proprietary and you can't
use the source to fix it's bugs. It's just as legitimate. Conversely,
if complaints about the high price of GPL software is not legitimate,
then complaints about the high price of any other software (or anything
else) is likewise not legitimate.
--
JBM
"Moebius strippers only show you their back side." -- Unknown
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Incredible developments in Italy regarding business software
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:16:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Adam Warner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:42:22 +1300
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>From the truth is stranger than fiction file:
>
>http://lwn.net/2001/features/siae.php3
>
>Any Italian wanting to distribute software for profit requires an
>authorising stamp or they could face a huge fine or imprisonment:
>
>"Whoever intends to make a profit ...for commercial or business purposes,
>from the use of ...computer programs contained on a medium not bearing the
>SIAE stamp, is subject to a penalty of imprisonment from six months up to
>three years and to a fine from 2500 to 15000 Euros."
>
>Since an SIAE stamp is required for the name of the author, publisher,
>producer or copyright holder a single Linux CD could conceivably require
>hundreds of stamps.
>
>Adam
Who the hell dreamt up *this* scheme?! (And who paid them to do it?)
If this is accurate (I can't say), Italy's free/GPL source advocates
are going to have a rough road ahead.
I'm also curious if "medium" includes Internet transmission methods
such as FTP, HTTP, and SCP (= RCP+SSL, roughly; it's for secure
copying). In other words, if I were in Italy, would I be required
to obtain an SIAE stamp from the publisher (or someone else?) of said
software as part of the download? Prior to the download?
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 16d:20h:45m actually running Linux.
Hi. I'm a signature virus.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:14:56 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:54:24 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Said Jim Cason in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 18 Feb 2001 06:01:15
> >Thank you for pointing out that there are companies who take care of their
> >licensing the correct way. For those that dont, they should be fined. Its
> >just like stealing anything else.
>
> Regardless of what else might be said, I'll say it, if nobody else will:
>
> No, its not.
How do you work that out?
This should be good......
--
Peter
55.25'N 4.45'W +/- 10"
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: 21 Feb 2001 13:24:12 -0600
dev null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> VA Linux posts big loss, will lay off 139
> http://www0.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/indepth/docs/linux022101.htm
> Now, what was all that I read in here earlier about how MS was 'dead' ????
Nah, the great thing about Linux is that it is giving us an alternative to
MS. The fact that MS isn't dead or dying isn't that important. In fact, the
words directly from MS was that unix was going to be dead because of it's
excellent multi-platform offering, NT. Now, NT is only supported on one
platform, whereas unix, which ironically started its exponential rise into
popularity 2-3 years after MS made the "unix is dead" comment, is still
multi-platform.
MS may not be dead, but neither is unix, either. And I don't see any
evidence of NT superiority over unix, except maybe in application
availability. Unix is in the process of kicking NT's ass, you see.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:28:21 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:22:52 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]
>For nutrition purposes, ketchup is a vegetable...unless they've
>stopped using the manufacturers have stopped using tomato as the
>primary (95%+) ingredient in favor of dog feces.
Yum.
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 16d:21h:00m actually running Linux.
No electrons were harmed during this message.
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:30:33 +0000 (UTC)
dev null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Yeah, I hear ya.
: For even more information about the crashing down of the Linux euphoria,
: check out:
: VA Linux posts big loss, will lay off 139
: http://www0.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/indepth/docs/linux022101.htm
: Now, what was all that I read in here earlier about how MS was 'dead' ????
Here's a better one:
"Dell cuts 1,700 jobs"
http://cnnfn.cnn.com/2001/02/15/technology/dell_jobs/index.htm
after posting below-expected earnings.
<sarcasm>
Looks like the M$-Windows euphoria is crashing down.
</sarcasm>
Of course, if one *really* wants to see Windows euphoria crashing
down...
http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2687183,00.html
"As new legal pressures mount against Microsoft Corp., the
company is trying to put the spotlight back on its operating
system products. But, so far, customers aren't buying."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:38:11 GMT
Followups to a slightly more logical set of newsgroups.
Note that I don't read either one at this time.
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:23:26 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>"Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
>>
>> Craig Kelley wrote:
>> > If we really want to save lives here, why not ban alcohol so that the
>> > DUI rate goes down? DUIs kill more people every day than hand guns do
>> > all year.
>>
>> Prohibition is unlikely to work as well as flaming high taxes; while
>> people may grumble about taxes, banning drink would be far more unpopular
>> and all the politicians know it. We're more likely to see a legalization
>> of cannabis than a banning of booze...
>
>Translation: Contraband laws don't work.
Actually, my understanding is that they work *very* well -- just not
in the way intended!
They keep prices up, which means higher profits for the manufacturers
and middlemen of the contraband items. Since our enforcement is pretty
bad (I think the estimate is that we get 10% of the drugs coming across
the border, or maybe it's even 1%, in any event, it's disgustingly low),
the contraband makers and middlemen make a tidy sum per transaction.
And of course, since they're illegal, no taxes need be paid, unless
said druglords and middlemen are actually caught in the act. Ideally,
we'd tax and regulate them much like, say, aspirin -- or maybe
prescription drugs.
>
>And yet, you think that declaring handguns to be contraband will work....
>which contradicts your other observation.
That'll work, too -- at transforming us to either an oppressed or
a high-crime society. Of course, either one is probably not what
was intended, either.... :-)
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 16d:21h:03m actually running Linux.
Are you still here?
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:38:32 GMT
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:45:31 GMT, Tim Hanson wrote:
> >Bloody Viking wrote:
> >>
> >> petilon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >>
> >> : After killing innovation in the web browser market by distributing
> >> : IE for free, Microsoft is now calling Linux a "threat to innovation"
> >> : because it is being distributed for free.
> >>
> >> And don't forget the bit with calling the GNU movement fascist.
> >>
> >> namecall -black <pot >kettle
> >>
> >> Anyways, GNUware is protected by free speech. Free speech includes all manner
> >> of works, including software and licencing agreements.
> >>
> >> --
> >> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> >> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> >> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
> >
> >No doubt Allchin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) knows full well what he's
> >doing. He's extracting a little mileage out of Napster concerns to
> >equate open source software to stealing songs over the 'net. I'm sure
>
> That's the feeling I got. Unfortunately, the Napsterite freeloaders don't
> help, and sites like slashdot erroneously associate Linux with Napster.
>
> It really pisses me off that they do this. Linux is a gift culture,
> "the Napster movement" is a mob of freeloaders. I just don't see the
> connection.
Doesn't matter. Without Napster, it would have been Gnutella, and
without that it would have been the 2600 crowd. There will always be
unsavory elements (or what the public considers so) with which to
associate one's competitors. I'm encouraged that, while Bloomberg
(through C/NET) shilled for him, ZDNet in the followup was a little more
critical, supplying contradictory anecdotes.
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
A fool must now and then be right by chance.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Date: 21 Feb 2001 12:49:20 -0700
"dev null" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > What happens if we apply their own criteria to Microsoft software?
> > Taxpayers pay for it, but it gets "locked away" in Redmond instead of
> > being available for general use. So, we don't have any access to the
> > source at all *and* we aren't alowed to publish/review the contents
> > therin.
>
> Just what I know *I* want. Cola regulars reviewing the source for
> applications I depend on.
Well, they do tell me that ignorance is bliss.
> Whew! Why don't I just type my thesis in vim with my eyes closed, and then
> turn it in.
> End result would be the about the same.
At least it wouldn't sit there beeping because the paperclip thought
you were writing a letter and was wondering if you needed help.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:05:54 -0600
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:970tqj$i83$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "proper pipes"?
> >
> > The definition of a pipe is to divert the output of one program into the
> > input of another. Multitasking is not a part of the definition.
>
> Yes. Without multitasking, it can't do that properly.
Perhaps you can point out a single credible definition of "pipe" that
defines it with multitasking?
By credible, I mean a university, book, or other experts definition.
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From: "Martin Kai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LPI Certification
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:58:13 -0800
Invitation to participate and build LPI Certification resource site.
Cheers.
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