Linux-Advocacy Digest #389, Volume #32 Wed, 21 Feb 01 20:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: How much does it take to make sound work in linux?? ("Adam Warner")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:28:28 -0500
Peter Ammon wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Gerry wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Where are you citing this number from?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Professor John Lott
> > > > Law and Economics Fellow,
> > > > University of Chicago
> > >
> > > There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. :)
> > >
> > > The US's preoccupation with guns makes me wonder why they have such a
> > > high crime rate if this "statistic" is true.
> >
> > Every state where the restrictions on carrying concealed weapons
> > have been lowered, the crime rate has gone down.
>
> What you fail to mention is that it went down faster in the states that
> did not lower the restrictions.
>
> http://216.6.14.135/research/studies/conctruth.asp
>
> "Between 1992 through 1998 (the last six years for which data exists),
> the violent crime rate in the strict and no-issue states fell 30% while
> the violent crime rate for states that liberalized carry laws prior to
> 1992 dropped half as much -- by 15%."
>
> >
> > Once or twice, it could be considered a coincidence.
> >
> > When it happens in TWENTY DIFFERENT STATES, then the conclusions
> > are obvious.
>
> You can't draw any conclusion from the statistics about states with
> relaxed carry laws alone. When you add a control, which in this case
> means the states that did not change the laws, then you can begin to
> find some answers.
Please explain why, when Florida removed the restriction for LAW-ABIDING
citizens to carry concealed firearms, that the criminals honed in on
those with rental cars and foreign accents.
It couldn't POSSIBLY be because these people would be the least-likely
to have a concealed weapon....
No...of course not.
>
> -Peter
>
> [snip gigantic sig]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:29:47 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > Remember the story of Robin Hood. Robin's men were outlaws because they
> > were mere commoners in posession of bows and arrows...in defiance of
> > Little Johns "bow and arrow control" laws.
> >
> > Of course, the fact that Little John's purpose for making such laws was
> > so that he could oppress the people is insignificant...right?
>
> LOL! Robin Hood was a common thief.
No...that was the TAX COLLECTOR.
Robin Hood merely returned to the people what was wrongfully stolen
from them by Little John's tax collectors.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much does it take to make sound work in linux??
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:32:10 +1300
Hi #KUNDAN KUMAR#,
The YMF724 didn't get supported for a long while because Yamaha wouldn't
release the specifications for the card.
Now the ALSA driver includes YMF724 support. Did you download and install
the updated driver?
http://www.alsa-project.org/
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-howto/
At one point you state:
"I again compiled 2.4.1 with everything inside the kernel( no module):
ymfpci, yamaha pci legacy support, OSS support. Now after reboot, there is
not a single sound related module in the kernel. modprobe ymfpci, sound
etc don't work"
This demonstrates a little confusion. If you compiled everything into the
kernel then there will be no need to load any modules using modprobe!
Regards,
Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:33:36 -0000
On 20 Feb 2001 23:40:10 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:32:20 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>
>
>>Exceedingly poor analysis.
>>
>>
>>You seem to forget that the number of criminals carrying guns tends
>>to remain unchanged by such laws.
>>
>>What part of VIOLENT LAW VIOLATOR do you not understand?
>
>Like a typical rightist, you erroneously paint everything in simple
>dichotomies. The world is not neatly divided into "criminals" /
>"VIOLENT LAW VIOLATEORS" and "law abiding citizens".
It is indeed rather simple to break up the population into
such discrete groups. It's only a simple matter of correlating
abuse of firearms to other criminal arrests, indictments and
and convictions or to merely consider the action in it's
given context.
If the homicide occured during a drug turf conflict, it's
painfully obvious that we aren't discussing "law abiding"
citizenry here.
>
>Are all homicides committed by people with prior criminal convictions ?
It's certainly easy enough to determine whether or not some
other crime was being commited at the time or if that person
is a known felon. Known criminal affiliations are also likely
a matter of record.
--
Regarding Copyleft:
There are more of "US" than there are of "YOU", so I don't
really give a damn if you're mad that the L/GPL makes it
harder for you to be a robber baron.
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