Linux-Advocacy Digest #379, Volume #32 Wed, 21 Feb 01 17:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: How much do you *NEED*? ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux web pads? ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source ("Karel Jansens")
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:10:58 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > Diesel-electrics were NOT introduced to solve a fuel-consumption
> > problem: they were introduced because they provide better torque from a
> > dead stop than steam...allowing an increase in the gross tons per
> > locomotive ratio.
> >
> > Also, they can be remote-controlled from one cab by electrical hookups,
> > allowing ONE crew to harness the power of three or four engines. With
> > steam, you would still need 1 or 2 people in each engine, and the
> > linkage would probably (in those day) have to have been mechanical, not
> > electrical.
>
> The 'electric' part of diesel electric is more coincidence than
> anything. When you have huge engines, at power transmission becomes a
> real problem. At the time, copper wires were the best way of transferring
> the mechanical power from the engines to the wheels. Diesel-mechanical
> didn't work well. IIRC, CAT developes a system a decade ago or so for
> tirect transfer of mechanical energy for really big vehicles.
Wrong. It's because with an electrical link, you can run the
diesel at full speed while the wheels are at a dead stop...WITHOUT
having to worry about wear and tear on clutch systems.
>
> There is no reason why steam trains could not all be controlles from one
> cab. Poeerstations run on steam and they are automated these days.
We're talking 1920 here.
>
> They were switching to diesel for other resaons. This cerartainly has
> nothing to do with hybrid vehicles (no electric power was stored) and
> even less to do with Open Source under threat.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:12:59 -0500
John Rudd wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Gerry wrote:
> > >
> > > But please answer these:
> > > Can you justify your signature?
> >
> > Yes. without my .sig, bandwidth on this newsgroup would explode
> > to 5x the present volume with flamewars
> >
>
> Don't flatter yourself. [see below]
>
> > > What purpose does it serve?
> >
> > keeps flamers from following me around and starting shit.
> >
>
> "Mommy, they're calling me names!"
>
> > >
> > > Is it "tooooooo difficult" for you to realize that you should
> > > trim your signature to no more than 3-5 lines?
> >
> > Is it too difficult for you to realize that a great many
> > people despise what I write.
>
> It's not difficult at all to realize how many people despise what you
> write, and why. Just look at what you're writing in this sub-thread.
>
> >
> > >
> > > The top 4 lines of your signature are acceptable.
> > > I don't understand, nor do I care about the other 99% of your sig.
> >
> > I really have no interest in giving you a demonstration of
> > the utter chaos which would ensue if I were to remove it.
>
> Aaah, so you're our savior. Without your arrogance and rude behavior,
> we'd all be much worse off. You're rude AND delusional. Two great
> annoyances in one package!
>
> I don't buy it. There's another way to avoid those flamewars: ignore or
> killfile those people and their attacks. That accomplishes the same
Ignoring savage insults and accusations implies to the observer that
that insults and accusations are true.
I *REFUSE* to allow my name to be besmirched without response.
> goal AND does it without negatively impacting bystanders. But that
> wouldn't satisfy your need to stroke the ego that came up with your
> savior complex.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:13:50 -0500
Nick Condon wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Kulkis) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> >
> >Gerry wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Nothing. And why should I need to change how I read news just for
> >> > > your sake?
> >> >
> >> > Then figure out the key for "next message"
> >> >
> >> > or is that tooooooo difficult?
> >>
> >> You didn't answer his question.
> >>
> >> But please answer these:
> >> Can you justify your signature?
> >
> >Yes. without my .sig, bandwidth on this newsgroup would explode
> >to 5x the present volume with flamewars
> >
> >> What purpose does it serve?
> >
> >keeps flamers from following me around and starting shit.
>
> So if we flame you long enough and hard enough about it, you'll drop the
> long sig?
No. I'll add you as Item K.
> --
> Nick
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:15:13 -0500
Sam Morris wrote:
>
> > > > > > No...they are not "petty attacks". They are accurate
> > > > > > analyses of the various goofballs named therein.
> > > > >
> > > > > Great. Why do you think anyone cares?
> > > >
> > > > Would you like to see the bandwidth of this newsgroup
> DOUBLE
> > > due to flame fests?
> > >
> > > I bet it would HALVE if you removed all the crap from your
> .sig.
> >
> > Would you like to see ALL of the below-mentioned in-duh-viduals
> > starting flamewars here?
>
> How does your preposterous .sig stop that happening?
Simple. I document their onerous behavior BEFORE they even commit it.
Takes the wind out of their sails right quick, it does.
> Meanwhile you haven't justified your petty attacks.
>
> > Didn't think so.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> "All your base are belong to us" - Cats
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:16:29 -0500
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sam Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > No...they are not "petty attacks". They are accurate
> > > analyses of the
> > > > > > various goofballs named therein.
> > > > >
> > > > > Great. Why do you think anyone cares?
> > > >
> > > > Would you like to see the bandwidth of this newsgroup DOUBLE
> > > due to flame fests?
> > >
> > > I bet it would HALVE if you removed all the crap from your .sig.
> > >
> >
> > Would you like to see ALL of the below-mentioned in-duh-viduals
> > starting flamewars here?
>
> You apparently would, or you wouldn't be antagonizing them in your .sig.
>
Then why do you not see them doing so right now.
The .sig does *NOT* antagonize them into flaming me. Quite the
opposite...by documenting their behavior, it takes all the fun
away from them.
> > Didn't think so.
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much do you *NEED*?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:19:23 -0100
In article <97075a$474$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Angel Iglesias"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > #1. You have to pay for your software.
>> > The price of your software is going up all the time.
>
> You have to pay for your software be it directly or
> by paying your IT department.
>
So with Microsoft software you pay _twice_.
>> > #2. Your Windows OS is unreliable.
>> > You can break Windows by installing a driver which isn't ready
>> > for prime time. Or how about just running your favorite app for
>> > too long a period of time.
>
> Kernel unstable drivers do freeze your Linux as well. Recent
> tests have proved that unlike BSD's, Linux can't even respond to console
> requests after hours of intensive serving. There are lots of X11
> applications (KDE, GNOME and X11 ones) that just crash or suddenly
> disappear.
>
Unstable drivers will freeze anything. What kind of argument is that? At
least with linux, you can choose to leave out unstable drivers. How do I
recompile Windows?
Please name "lots".
>> > #3. If your a developer for Windows, you end up having to join
>> > the Microsoft Slave trade. You have to certify and then
>> > re-certify for your certificate every time Windows comes out
>> > with a new OS or new application. Microsoft can DEEM your
>> > re-certification at *THEIR* whim! And *YOU* have to *PAY* or
>> > loose your certification. And even if you *PAY* and you *PASS*
>> > you can still be denyed your certification as Microsoft has the
>> > final right to revoke it without reason or cause.
>
> How about the GNU/Linux, Unix, X11 mess ... which toolkit do
> you want to use ? Have all of required dependencies ? Acceptable
> versions ? GNU/Linux DOES need a lot of updating.
>
Only if you insist on tinkering. A properly configured linux system for
business use hardly needs any updating at all. Heck, it doesn't even need
reboots.
And guess what, when something absolutely super-duper gottahave brandnew
comes out, rather than having to run out and buy a new operating system
and new computer, all a linux user has to do is install a new library.
>> > #4. Viruses in the form of VB scripts non-the-less! Isn't it
>> > amazing that Microsoft Windows has been sucessfully attacked by
>> > over 100 different types of VB script viruses sent in thru
>> > E-mails and *YET TODAY* Microsoft Corp has yet to admit a fix
>> > needs to be installed to help prevent the damage. They haven't
>> > even admitted it's a problem! How incredible. And your the
>> > stupid shit who's forking out the bucks for *THEIR* system...
>
> A badly designed application does not mean anything about the
> underlaying
> OS; anyway, as GNU/Linux becomes more popular, more virus, troyans and
> exploits do appear ... very recently the Ramen worm as an example. More
> features do mean more holes, be it Windows, Unix or whichever.
>
It _does_ mean something if a badly behaving application can take the
entire computer down.
Viri, troyans and worms are a risc to any computer; at least with linux,
they only affect the careless/dumb/gullible user and not the rest of the
system.
>> > #6. Your OS is totally insecure. If communist Chineese can
>> > steal all the source code from Microsoft HQ in Redmond, right
>> > under their fucking noses, then why on earth do you think your
>> > checkbook is safe? I mean, they stole code from Microsoft for
>> > 4-6 weeks and were never discovered. This is because Microsoft
>> > Windows Security is so lame, hacking it is like stealing candy
>> > from a baby. I hear people boast about how secure Windows
>> > products are every day. I'd like to say that they are all
>> > dumbasses and don't know their asshole from a hole in the
>> > ground. Explain Why Redmond got ripped off for over a month and
>> > nobody heard a single alarm bell go off? Microsoft HQ in
>> > Redmond... Why.... Do you think your better then they are? If
>> > you are why aren't you writing a fucking OS?
>
> All of us do know Unix is bullet proof hehehe :-)
>
Indeed hehehe :-)
And we can't stop laughing with all the dumb idiots who _still_ pretend
that their Windows is stable hehehe :-)
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
==============================
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:19:26 -0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Charlie Ebert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah Microsoft. They not only survived the gauntlett but prospered. Think
> of all those BIG companies and their BIG BUCKS.
>
> Microsoft survived to emerge from the tunnel to meet Linux.
>
> And from that encounter he died.
"The light at the end of the tunnel is the train heading straight at you".
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
==============================
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:19:30 -0100
In article <97130s$sho$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "dev null"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Those are the facts, yes, I agree.
>
> Another fact is that the omni-present war cry of the LinZealots is the
> mocking phrase "you will be assimilated" by Linux. They usually point to
> this very same corporate acceptance of Linux as the basis for making
> such bold assertions.
>
No linux advocate in her/his right mind would want to assimilate *you*,
because that would significantly reduce the average intelligence level of
the linux users population segment. Please continue to use Windows and
never, ever - even jokingly! - tell anyone you might want to try out
linux.
> This corporate obsession was tantamount to dot com insanity, which
> anyone with half a brain realized. More and more of these 'friends of
> Linux' companies that jumped on the Torvalds Ego party will begin to
> back away. Just keep your eyes open.
>
I happen to know several linux-based companies in Belgium that are
positively _thriving_. Mind you, none of them ever jumped on the dotcom
bandwagon.
> Borland, marketing wizards that they are, went on a media blitz for the
> soon to be released RAD port of Delphi to Linux (Kylix). Months I have
> waited in anticipation of this release. Now, I have been told that a
> 'professional' version of this product will cost $999. Almost twice what
> the Windows version costs. Am I going to purchase it as I had planned?
> Of course not. Not only because of cost, but because I can hear the
> LinZealots now "I don't want no stinkin Borland binary on my box!"
>
Do you often hear these voices? Have you inquired if others near you hear
them as well?
> How long do you think Borland will be able to support Linux RAD
> development via sales of this product? After seeing Borland's investment
> fade into lost $$, how many more companies will incur the $$ to migrate
> to Linux??
>
Why do you think we can answer those questions for you?
> Companies, in the traditional sense, will not sustain an unprofitable
> model for very long. They aren't quite as lemming-like as Amazon stock
> holders, and Linux newbies.
>
So, you are actually saying that it is the dotcom business model that is
flawed?
> Assimilate that.
>
It appears that you are the one with the assimilation-obsession.
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
==============================
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:19:36 -0500
Nick Condon wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Kulkis) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Tim Streater wrote:
> >> Where we live, perhaps. In the UK about 50 people are murdered with
> >> handguns each year (this includes Northern Ireland, by the way). This
> >> compares with 300 or so killed by people drinking (out of about 3000
> >> road deaths annually). In the US, 10,000 are murdered annually with
> >
> >If you remove "criminals killing other criminals", the number
> >is substantially lower.
>
> Since killing people is a crime in most circumstances, this is something of
> a circular argument.
Let me rephrase it.
If you remove "HABITUAL criminals killing other HABITUAL CRIMINALS",
the number is substantially lower.
If you remove HABITUAL CRIMINALS killing anybody, the number of
illegal gun deaths remaining (that is, non-habitual criminals
commiting wrongful homicide) is exceedingly small.
*SOME* gun deaths are entirely legitimate, by the way....such
as when a bystander, or victim, shoots a perpetrator.
>
> --
> Nick
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:20:00 -0500
"Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
>
> Chad Myers wrote:
> > Hmm... it seems you are incorrect. Sales of Windows continue to increase.
> > The hype revolving around Windows XP is high, which means many people
> > are interested. Hardly the signs of a dying company.
>
> So what? The hype around the Millennium Dome was high too, and that's
> hardly the sort of business success you want to compare yourself to...
>
HAH!
> Donal.
> --
> Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- Short attention span since- ooh! Shiny thing on the floor!
> -- Chad R. Orzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:20:13 -0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthias Warkus"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> An ASCII-piano can easily be plugged in when needed (just add a PS/2
>> port for QWERTY's sake <G>); a mouse is IMHO an abysmal replacement for
>> a decent touch-screen
>
> Only when everything on your screen is at least half the size of the
> average fingertip. Have you ever tried to cut and paste a single word
> (or, God forbid, a single character) from and into normal-sized text
> with a touchscreen?
>
> When it comes to precision, a touchscreen is the most abysmal mouse
> replacement there is. (Whereby some people might argue that a mouse is
> just an abysmal trackball replacement.)
>
Use the stylus. Do you use fingerpaint to write a letter?
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Regards,
Karel Jansens
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"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allchin backtracks, now likes open source
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:20:14 -0100
In article <97121o$gej$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "dev null"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What happens if we apply their own criteria to Microsoft software?
>> Taxpayers pay for it, but it gets "locked away" in Redmond instead of
>> being available for general use. So, we don't have any access to the
>> source at all *and* we aren't alowed to publish/review the contents
>> therin.
>
> Just what I know *I* want. Cola regulars reviewing the source for
> applications I depend on.
>
> Whew! Why don't I just type my thesis in vim with my eyes closed, and
> then turn it in. End result would be the about the same.
>
>
Given your proven writing "style" and the observed level of intelligence
you display, it probably would.
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Regards,
Karel Jansens
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"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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