Linux-Advocacy Digest #424, Volume #32           Fri, 23 Feb 01 03:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Woofbert)
  Re: Linux web pads? (Tim Hanson)
  Re: State of linux distros (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
  Re: State of linux distros ("Masha Ku'Inanna")
  Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation (Ed Allen)
  Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/ (Brent R)
  Re: State of linux distros (Brent R)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: State of linux distros (Brent R)
  Re: The Windows guy. (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Amusing Aaron Kulkis Anagrams (Ray Chason)

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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 05:10:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I don't recall where in this thread you were warning people about the
> > dangers of Nazism. And I don't understand how lessons about the
> > Holocaust are relevant in comp.* newsgroups.
> 
> I don't recall anybody comparing a participant in this thread
> to Hitler...so, fuck off and die, idiot.

Temper, temper! Geeeze...

-- 
Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com> -- http://www.infernosoft.com
"As any discussion of the Macintosh progresses, the likelihood of someone
claiming that the Mac UI was stolen from Xerox approaches 1. At this point, 
the thread has degenerated to such an extent that it might as well end." 

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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 05:11:01 GMT

Karel Jansens wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:31:23 -0100, Karel Jansens
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The
> >>Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [deletia]
> >>>
> >>
> >>My idea was more that the pad would be an X-terminal, with a wireless
> >>network link, so the server (the desktop) would have to run some kind of
> >>X-server software. Linux obviously is the first O/S that came to my
> >>mind,
> >
> >       The proper terminology for such a thing is Xclient. The "server"
> >       machine in this arrangement would not need to even have a video card.
> >
> > [deletia]
> >
> Correction gracefully accepted.
> 
> But I really was under the impression that the term "X-terminal" also
> referred to a hardware terminal tuned to run X aplications from a server
> (sort of an evolved "dumb terminal").
>

That's exactly right, and that X-terminal will be running an X-server,
i.e., enough software to render graphics.  So an actual application is
run on the main computer, which does all the work, but the program picks
up its graphics from the terminal's X-server for rendering its output to
the screen.  That way the bits for rendering the screen pixels don't
have to travel down the pipe to the terminal, saving considerable
bandwidth.
-- 
Immigration is the sincerest form of flattery.
                -- Jack Paar

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Date: 23 Feb 2001 06:26:51 GMT
Subject: Re: State of linux distros

>
>That argument will never work here. Even when a 128 sdram stick is < $100.
>You see, MS is in cahoots with the memory manufacturers somehow.

The problem is that there's no good reason to shell out for more hardware to
accomplish the same task.  If the same task is performed, and no increase in
efficency or capability occurs, why should I need a $700 Duron rig instead of a
$20 486/66 from a yard sale?  If parts on the 486 blow out, they're probably
cheaper to get equally-capable replacements.

Not to mention the ecological problems with discarding a large box of plastic,
metal, and silicon every few years.

I have bought plenty of upgrades to improve my Linux experience.
-- 
Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
Colony name not needed in address.
This post is No. 54 056 in a limited edition of 700 000 000.  Certificate of
Authenticity attached.

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From: "Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:31:57 -0500
Reply-To: "Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> ah, but C'MON.....like i said before; this is the year 2001, and anyone
> running a 'puter with less than a PII 300 (or compatible) and 128 MB RAM
in
> it, need some serious reality check, u cant wip a dead horse like that for
> ever ...but then again; Win2kpro works just fine with a P133, just make
sure
> to have 'nuff memory in it...

A reality check is in order when you've completely bought into the entire
"outdated because you have version 3.5 and version 3.6 is what is current"
marketting scheme. And furthermore, I assume you feel that anyone who does
not have a WinTel system needs the reality check?

Regardless of the level of 'currency' you have with your hardware, doesn't
it seem galling to know that a free OS, on hardware that you probably could
not pay someone $50 to incinerate for you, performs just as well, if not
out-performs an over-priced OS that bogs down hardware that costs at least a
$1,000 USD or more in terms of stability, reliability and uptime?

Or that some people still support an OS that has only recently been updated
on hardware that still shames the WinTel monopoly (Hail Amiga! -- but that
is a different newsgroup) because it still works, and works well at
multitasking more smoothly on half a megabyte than curent hardware running
Windows?

I'd say, at this point, even if Amigans, for example, finally got rid of
their Amigas in favor of a WinTel machine, the $2-3,000 they paid for the
high end Amiga systems they purchased 8-9 years ago was money well spent.
They got far more than their original money's worth for their machines. If
you bought a 486 "back in the day" and it still runs, and out-performs a
PII, or PIII at tasks by running a free OS on it, instead of having to have
purchased new hardware just to support the most current version of a
proprietary OS on it, again, money well spent.

If I have to pay THAT much just to eek out performance from my over-priced
software, if I had to buy hardware upgrade after upgrade after upgrade just
to support software version after version after version, THEN I'd seriously
need the reality check.

"It's no longer cool to be fooled."
-Trey Azagtoth, Morbid Angel

By the way, you FELT for the guy in the Gateway commercial where he was
driving home with his brand new "P6 (?)" computer, and he grew crestfallen
at a stop-sign when he spotted a new billboard posted for the new "P7"
computer, didn't you..




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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:01:02 GMT

In article <iTel6.491$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >This ignores the fact that MS's software has gone down in price when you
>> >factor in inflation, and the amount of software you get per dollar.
>>
>> No, it doesn't, though your statement does ignore the fact that it has
>> not gone down in price at all, nor kept up with the competition in terms
>> of the amount of functionality included with the distribution.
>
>If the numbers on the price tag stay the same, and inflation goes up.  The
>dollar value has dropped, and thus the product becomes cheaper.
>
    As I pointed out in my direct response to your post, the Findings of
    Fact include email evidence from Jim Allchin which contradicts you.

>> >Further, you negelected to mention why OS's like BeOS and MacOS X exist
>if
>> >this were the case.
>>
>> There is no need to, though it might have been a decent troll guard to
>> point out that if the OS is not sufficiently substitutable for Windows,
>> MS has little reason or leverage to "strangle" it.
>
>He claims that MS inhibits innovation.  Linux flies in the face of that.
>Linux doesn't depend on a market to grow its technology base, since the
>people that use it enhance it.  Since Linux's technology has not advanced
>past the level that MS's has, and in most cases, Linux is still trying to
>catch up to Windows, that theory is bogus.  If the argument were true, then
>Linux's technology would completely surpass Windows.
>
    I have never claimed that MS makes innovation totally stop just that
    it raises the cost of bringing such innovation to market.

    Linux, and other Open Source projects, are making advances in spite
    of having had little funding because the people involved are
    donating millions of hours of programming, testing, and debugging
    time every year.

    That represents an investment buy the communities of something close
    to a billion dollars a year in intellectual capital.  Even IBM has
    said that they cannot match that.

    That is finally beginning to allow people to see that not all
    computing needs to be under the thumb of MS.

    That is what MS has used to keep out potential innovations and still
    some trickle through.  By having millions of innovative drips even
    MS will eventually be submerged in the flood.

    As for "Linux's technology has not advanced past the level that MS's
    has".  Since Linux compiles the same kernel to run on the iPAQ and
    the z900 and MS require different source trees for servers and
    desktops on x86 alone how can you justify saying that ?

    Linux has grown from nothing but a mutitasking plaything on Linus'
    desk to running several, I have pointers to ten at least, computers
    in the top 500 largest supercomputers in the world.  I have a single
    pointer to a W2K member of that group.  How is Linux behind by that
    measure ?

    Linux today, in delivered code, functions perfectly on 64 bit CPUs.
    MS has a version which boots on Itanium, again only a single
    architecture.  How is Linux behind ?

    The WebBench figures that Chad was blathering about put W2K 2%
    behind Linux while running on faster hardware.  How does that put
    Linux behind ?

>> >IE would have won on it's merits, without ISP agreements.
>>
>> Then why did MS spend millions to secure such agreements?
>
>Because Netscape was doing the same thing.
>
>> >They react to every situation as a life or death threat, and that isn't
>> >always necessary.  Sometimes it is, but not always.
>>
>> And when it isn't, its criminal behavior, Erik.  There is no 'life or
>> death'.  There is competing, and there is monopolizing.  If the only way
>> MS can 'stay alive' is to monopolize, then they are a criminal
>> organization.  QED.
>
    Bill had already propositioned Netscape to just divide up the market
    so they would not need to fight so Netscape knew that MS was out to
    "cut off their air supply" from that moment on.

    Not taking defensive measures when you are being attacked is not
    healthy.

>No, it's not criminal behavior.  I see nowhere in the Sherman Act that
>specifies that.
>
    The Sherman act does not attempt to enumerate a list of forbidden
    activities any more than the laws against murder attempt to list
    ways in which you are forbidden to kill people.

    What happens in both cases is that the circumstances are examined
    and the outcome and the intent determines the guilt of the accused.

    Neither set of laws are invalid because they do not enumerate the
    infinite ways to break them.

>> >>     Are you denying that Microsoft has a monopoly ?  Or that monopolies
>> >>     do not charge higher prices than competitors do ?
>> >
>> >Apples and Oranges.
>>
>> Is that a yes or a no, Erik?
>
>I'm saying that determining the price of a product is not so simple as just
>comparing two products, since they offer different kinds of functionality.
>
    And yet you say they compete ?

    How can they compete for the same customers if the customer cannot
    compare them ?

>
>That's two entirely different things.  MS's competition is other OS's, not
>Windows clones.  Stop pretending that lots of other OS's out there aren't
>more expensive than Windows.  They are.
>
    Diesel trains are more expensive than Dodge trucks and they both
    haul things.  Are they competitors ?

>> The answer is "no"; TMax Windows would drastically lower the amount that
>> MS could charge, as any other _competition_ (note the lack of quotes)
>> would.  This is called 'competitive pricing', and its something MS will
>> avoid at all costs, including engaging in illegal activity.
>
>MS is already priced below the majority of their competition.
>
    I contend that you are mixing fruit again Erik.

    No other OS competes for the desktop.  Can't, OEM preloads add the
    cost of whatever MS is calling the Windows desktop this quarter to
    any potential competitors' cost.

    How can OS/2 or BEos or whatever "compete" when somewhere between
    $40 and $90 gets sent to Redmond for every copy sold ?

    Linux does not compete on desktops.  You can order machines
    preloaded with Linux from Dell, Gateway, CompaQ, HP, and IBM at
    least, all servers not desktops.

    The only MS OS aimed at servers is W2K and it costs several hundred
    on up to thousands of dollars per CPU while Linux is less than two
    hundred even if you take the same CD and install it on dozens of
    eight CPU servers.

    Sounds like a large price difference to me.

>> Windows is astronomically more expensive than all of its competitors.
>> If it weren't, they wouldn't need to maintain a monopoly in order to
>> keep people buying it.
>
>The monopoly is BECAUSE people buy it.
>
    Which conveniently ignores all the Sherman Act violations to keep it
    intact.

    People "buy" it because avoiding it is almost impossible, not
    because they like monopoly crapware.

-- 
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
        - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting

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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:16:06 GMT

mlw wrote:
> 
> I just posted about how I have 1000 times more RAM than my first PC/XT. not
> mentioning my CP/M machine.

Isn't it CB/M? Actually I think you're right.
 
> Lets face it: we are all running supercomputers. It is simply amazing how much
> computer power we have?

Yes and no. In 10 years we won't consider this much at all. Most of us
aren't sitting in front of HAL 9000's right now, but yeah, I guess we've
got powerful computers. *yawn*

Now if they could figure out a way to clone dinosaurs, *that* would be
cool.

> --
> The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
> The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
> consistency.
>                 -- Albert Einstein


-- 

Happy Trails

-Brent
=============================
http://rotten168.home.att.net
=============================
ICQ# 51265871

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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:25:15 GMT

Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> >> ah, but C'MON.....like i said before; this is the year 2001, and anyone
> >> running a 'puter with less than a PII 300 (or compatible) and 128 MB
> >> RAM in
> >
> > My entire department's mail (about 100 people) is being happily handled
> > by a P100 - it was running kernel 2.0.36 until a few days ago. It also
> > has about 40 user accounts. I alone get about 4000 mails a day, so I'm
> > going to bet it gets at least 10 times that.
> 
> Some people have never heard ot the right tool for the job. A P100 is
> fine as a mail server and can cope with huge amounts of mail. The people
> wanting you to by a dual P4 to do the job would probably put a P4 in as
> a washing machine contoller, when, realy a 4 bit processor does the job
> with cycles to spare.
> 
> 
> >> it, need some serious reality check, u cant wip a dead horse like that
> >> for ever ...but then again; Win2kpro works just fine with a P133, just
> >> make sure
> >
> > My home server is also a P100. So is the departments www server. My
> > other homes server is a P166. My laptop is a P150.
> 
> Really, what is the point in getting a faster computer simply because one
> is avaliable? My CPU sits idle for most of the time as it is.
> 
> > You only need grunt to run staroffice and netscape ;-)
> 
> A p133 can cope with NS4 and SO.

SO v5.2 probably. Version 5.1 *struggled* on 128 mb of RAM. Unless I'm
doing something wrong.

> -Ed
> 
> --
>                                                      | u98ejr
>                                                      | @
>              Share, and enjoy.                       | eng.ox
>                                                      | .ac.uk


-- 

Happy Trails

-Brent
=============================
http://rotten168.home.att.net
=============================
ICQ# 51265871

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:26:23 -0500



Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:26:49 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> 
> >> Those poor fund babies -- how my heart bleeds for them.
> >
> >Tell that to a family which has 90% of the family wealth tied
> >up in a small business.
> 
> You make it sound like grocery stores are getting hurt by the tax.
> The threshold is very high, you have to be a millionaire for the
> tax to have *any* effect.

Wrong.  $600,000 is where it kicks in....which is *NOTHING*
for a farm or a small machining shop.


> 
> >> I was referring to inheritance. I'd still work if my inheritance ws
> >> taxed at 100%.
> >
> >What incentive does the average person have to save?
> >If anything, it's an incentive to blow everything, and become a
> >ward of the state.
> 
> Not unless becoming a ward of the state leads to a comfortable lifestyle.
> I'd save to avoid becoming a ward of the state.
> 

Then *you* are not the average person.


> >Everything you have written on the subject is in support of
> >taxing the productive for the benefit of those who refuse to
> >be productive.
> 
> Taxing the productive to create an education system that works
> for "productive" children is worthwhile IMO.

Don't give me that bullshit.  The United States spends 5x as
much per pupil on Kindergarte-12th grade education as any other
country in the world.  And to what end?

In case you haven't noticed, the public K-12 education system
in this country, if foisted upon us by another country, would
be considered an act of war.


> 
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
   but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.


K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:27:32 -0500



Woofbert wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Woofbert wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >                              Whoever you were talking with got fed
> > > > >                           up
> > > > >                              with
> > > > > that sort of stupidity and refused to speak with you any further.
> > > > > Now
> > > > > you're all hurt and get all riled up when someone mentions Godwin.
> > > >
> > > > Fuck off, loser.
> > >
> > > Woohoo! I hit the nail -- bang! -- on the head.
> > >
> > > Godwin! Godwin! Godwin!
> >
> > Please show us where I accused you to be the leader of a fascist
> > dictatorship with a penchant for overrunning a multitude of
> > European countries all while wearing a silly-looking mustache...
> >
> > Be precise.
> 
> I never made that accusation. I'm just saying "Godwin" because it riles
> you so. Ever seen "Monty Python's Life of Brian"?  Jehova, Jehova,
> Jehova! Godwin! Godwin! Godwin!
> 

You sure are a shit-for brains.

Looking for immortalization in my .sig?


> > > ::hamster-dancing!::
> >
> > that's about your speed, isn't it.
> 
> ::smirk::
> 
> --
> Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com> -- http://www.infernosoft.com
> "As any discussion of the Macintosh progresses, the likelihood of someone
> claiming that the Mac UI was stolen from Xerox approaches 1. At this point,
> the thread has degenerated to such an extent that it might as well end."

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
   but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.


K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:28:02 -0500



Woofbert wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > I don't recall where in this thread you were warning people about the
> > > dangers of Nazism. And I don't understand how lessons about the
> > > Holocaust are relevant in comp.* newsgroups.
> >
> > I don't recall anybody comparing a participant in this thread
> > to Hitler...so, fuck off and die, idiot.
> 
> Temper, temper! Geeeze...

You write like a retard.
why is that?


> 
> --
> Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com> -- http://www.infernosoft.com
> "As any discussion of the Macintosh progresses, the likelihood of someone
> claiming that the Mac UI was stolen from Xerox approaches 1. At this point,
> the thread has degenerated to such an extent that it might as well end."

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
   but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.


K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:30:00 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>         Not everyone has money to piss down that particular drain.

Seriously. I'd rather buy a new stereo, or camera, or some CD's than a
new goddamn system every 6mos 'cause Bill Gates thinks I should.

There's something decidedly non-exciting about new computer equipment.
It may the fact that it'll be obsolete before I put it together.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: 23 Feb 2001 07:52:25 GMT

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:30:53 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

>> There's a difference between communicating and doing an autopsy. DOS does
>> the latter.
>
>The definition also doesn't say that the processes must be running
>concurrently either.

Suffice it to say that I do not consider that to be "true" IPC, and
hence I don't consider the resulting pipes to be "true" pipes either.


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Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ * 
elflord at panix dot com

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From: Ray Chason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Amusing Aaron Kulkis Anagrams
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:40:40 -0000

Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Please put more effort into your posts like our lovable
>Flatfish++++.  Potty talk does not cut it, Direct name calling
>attacks only make the attacker look bad. 

Yeah, just like Kooklis and that pile of spam he calls a sig.


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