Linux-Advocacy Digest #505, Volume #32 Mon, 26 Feb 01 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Rob S. Wolfram)
Re: why open source software is better (John Hasler)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (.)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Nevin Liber)
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Giuliano Colla)
Re: State of linux distros (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob S. Wolfram)
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: 26 Feb 2001 23:23:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <971fah$d8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> Correct. For some reason, best known to the GIMP developers, it ships
>> with many different printer drivers.
>So there are one set of drivers for CUPS and one set for The Gimp... any
>more applications that ship with drivers for printers? Does any of this
>sound _wrong_ to anyone?
Not necessarily, no. The Gimp may provide its own drivers to prevent
information of the print getting lost due to translation to PostScript
which is itself translated to PCL, PreScribe or what not via
Ghostscript. But the Gimp *does* use the standard print spooler and can
make use of standard filters just fine. So this is a *feature*. And yes,
it can be turned off. Trivially.
The only possible remark that one can make is that *Mandrake* uses a
wrong default for their Gimp installation. Others don't.
My big complaint against you is that you start whining without doing any
RTFM. Guess what, you start up your browser to the Gimp Manual (HTML
version), you pick the Index, scroll down to "P" and select "Print".
Here's a little snippet of what you see then:
"Gimp supports the most common printers internally, so you don't have to
have GhostScript installed. If you have GhostScript installed and use it
as a printer filter for your printers, then you probably want to print
with the PostScript Printer option. However, it is recommended that
those of you with Ghostscript installed should create a raw printer
device, and let Gimp print directly to it, at least for testing
purposes, so you can follow the examples in this manual."
Now that was not hard, was it?
HTH.
Rob
--
Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
Ummm, well, OK. The network's the network, the computer's the computer.
Sorry for the confusion.
-- Sun Microsystems
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: why open source software is better
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:44:58 GMT
David Masterson writes:
> Suits are not dummies -- they can learn new ways of doing things and so
> may not require "contractual obligation" on any but a few pieces of
> software.
Let's hope so.
> Some pieces of software are such that no one wants to step up and be
> "contractually obligated" for it. Many pieces of software become useful
> to a company due to "internal" add-ons that people within the company
> make. External entities may not want to support this.
This is less of a problem with free software as you can shop around for
support and, all else failing, hire a programmer and do it yourself.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:04:07 +1300
> > I can't seem to follow this logic...
> >
> > If I have an OS that uses up, for example, 10% of my CPU time to do its
> > maintenance and scheduling and whatever, and then I upgrade to a
> > faster machine and I get an OS that only uses 5% of my CPU time... The
> > OS hasn't CHANGED, it hasn't IMPROVED, but how in the hell has it lost
> > any performance, and relative to what?
> >
> > If the OS's got SLOWER as the CPUs got FASTER we would have OS's that
> > remained at the same level of relative performance, as long as we're
> > talking about relative to the speed of the PC.
> >
> > Can you help me out with whatever I'm missing here?
>
> You need to run Win 3.1, then 95, then 98, then NT, then 2000
> on the same hardware, and watch the performance go down.
I'm fully aware of how shittily MS software runs [on old hardware].
(square brackets indicate optional text - adjust to suit your
preferences)
But in this case, we are just seeing new software running like shit on
old hardware. There is no 'relative performance drop' because of this.
There is an ACTUAL performance drop. New OS's are written primarily to
be used on the current hardware (writing for future hardware would be
bizarre), so saying that the newer ones going slower on the same old
processor you used for Win 3.1 is not a 'relative performance drop'.
In fact, I'd say this is closer to my example of OS's slowing down while
the PC speeds up - you end up taking the same amount of time to boot, and
launch apps. I believe the extra processing time available is used in
some kind of swap-delay routine, make it look like the computer is
actually doing something. Only the apps running quicker even seems to
indicate you have a new machine once MS bangs out their latest
version of shit-in-a-box.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:04:04 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scott Gardner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> would stop that govt. shelling the house of someone with a personal
>>>> arsenal?
>>>
>>> A concerted response from the entire neighborhood firing upon the gun
>>> crew.
>>
>>How many civs do you know own enough weaponary to stop a mobile gun
>>shelling you from 60 miles away?
>>
>
> Again, you're showing your mindset. If the armed forces of a government
> turned against the citizenry, the "mobile gun unit shelling you from 60
> miles away" would be right in SOMEONE'S backyard, and if the armed
> forces have declared war on the citizens, that someone would likely be
> sympathetic to your cause. In my country at least, there are almost 300
> million people, and only a few million in the armed services.
> Considering that so much of our infrastructure is supported by
> civilians, and the country is so huge, I can speak intelligently as an
> officer in the United States military and tell you that if we were to
> try such foolishness, we would be righteously fucked...
Yes, but the civs don't need handguns to do that.
-Ed
--
| u98ejr
| @
Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
| .ac.uk
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:05:24 +0000
> These are the much same criteria my state uses before anyone is issued a
> concealed-carry permit, and most states are equally strict, if they even
> allow concealed-carry at all.
It is not about concealed guns, but guns in general.
> Tell me exactly WHY you think that I, and
> people like me, should not be allowed to own and carry handguns??
How can you guarntee that someone unbalanced does not buy a gun?
-Ed
--
| u98ejr
| @
Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
| .ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nevin Liber)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 27 Feb 2001 01:05:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ZnU wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Try the 'N' key and see what happens.
>> Nothing. And why should I need to change how I read news just for your
>> sake?
>Exactly. Netiquette places the burden, in this case, upon the poster
>and not the reader.
In reality, that only works in polite company. The actual burden is
always on the reader (with the help of the reader's software). Sad but
true.
>> Are you now being deliberately obnoxious? You've just posted a string of
>> one line posts with your 38 line .sig.
>Not to mention the lack of quote trimming.
I'm not sure why you read AK's posts at all. Besides being off-topic
and irrelevant for the newsgroups he floods most of the time, his signal
(amount of original material) to noise (amount of quoted material + signature)
ratio is usually much less than 1%, and by the shear number of these
posts he is literally screaming to us that he doesn't really have very
important to say. Certainly not something worth listening to; if it was,
why hide the message in all that noise?
It is quite apparent that he desperately trying to approach an S/N ratio of 0.
Oblige him by not reading his posts.
--
Nevin ":-)" Liber <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (773) 961-1620
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:17:49 -0500
Joona I Palaste wrote:
>
> Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled the following
> on comp.lang.c:
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >>
> >> Peter Pichler wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> and as such has a God-given Right to do whatever the
> >> > >> hell he likes (e.g. appending 1708 bytes of yahoo rant to all
> >> > >> his Usenet postings), however annoying and inconvenient it may
> >> > >> be for the rest of us.
> >> > >
> >> > >And not only that, but I serve in the military to defend
> >> > >that right.
> >> >
> >> > You must be /realy/ proud.
> >>
> >> Are you trying to imply that defending your country is somehow
> >> an ignoble thing to do?
>
> > No, he's trying to imply that being a complete bozo is an ignoble thing
> > to do. Learn to read for comprehension.
>
> And by the way, Aaron - "defending your country" does not qualify as a
> reason.
What part of United States Army do you not understand?
The US Army defends the US Constitution, which secures my right,
by virtue of being in the US, to say anything I damn well please
on USENET or any other place.
>Usenet is not your country.
>
> --
> /-- Joona Palaste ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---------------------------\
> | Kingpriest of "The Flying Lemon Tree" G++ FR FW+ M- #108 D+ ADA N+++|
> | http://www.helsinki.fi/~palaste W++ B OP+ |
> \----------------------------------------- Finland rules! ------------/
>
> "A bicycle cannot stand up by itself because it's two-tyred."
> - Sky Text
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:23:38 -0500
Peter Hayes wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:39:33 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ever notice that the only thing that puts and end to a killing spree
> > is the ARRIVAL OF MORE GUNS in law-abiding hands (either civilian
> > or police or military).
> >
> > Therefore, guns are STILLL a necessary tool in modern life....and
> > will be until you can figure out a way to PREVENT *every* person
> > from even contemplating murder. [fat chance of that].
>
> Of course guns are a necessary tool in modern life, but not in th hands of
> the average citizen.
Every place where gun-carrying laws have been changed, the results have
been consistant:
Making it more difficult for average citizens to carry legally RAISES
the crime rate (hot burglaries, assaults, muggings, etc.)
And conversely, making it easier for average citizens to carry
legally LOWERS the crime rate for those above-mentioned felonies.
> Imagine an incident witnessed by a citizen somewhat
> the worse for drink, or perhaps been smoking something he shouldn't have.
> Said citizen's judgement is just as impaired as it would be if he were
> behind the wheelof a car, with the same fatal consequences.
By that logic, Florida and Texas would be bloodbaths right now, because
the laws are VERY relaxed and let just about every non-felon to carry
concealed firearms legally.
Facts, in other words, disprove your theory.
>
> Peter
> --
>
> You have added or changed your signature.
>
> Your signature server will now reboot so that
> the changes will take effect.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:25:50 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > So in other words, you agree that not all components have come down in
> price
> > > in recent years, and that the premise only applies to components which
> have
> > > a performance issue associated with them. The current model goes down
> in
> > > price when a better performing product replaces it.
> >
> > Actually, someone posted even cheaper prices for the keyboards and floppy
> > drives than I realized existed! So I was wrong. It's beginning to look
> > like that author I quoted was correct, after all, Erik.
>
> He posted the price of a refurbished floppy, not a new one. You can always
> find loss leaders.
>
> Cheap keyboards have been around for close to a decade as well. The prices
> for good quality and cheap ones have stayed roughly the same.
>
> > > OS's generally do not improve their performance significantly from
> release
> > > to release.
> >
> > If you're talking about Windoze, I agree.
>
> Really? So, Red Hat 6.1 is significantly faster than Red Hat 6.0? 5.2?
> 5.1?
Yes, of course. Otherwise why change?
>
> > > There is usually some, but the releases are years apart versus
> > > the months apart of hardware items.
> >
> > Which is why Linux is blowing by Windoze in features and performance,
> > even with the kernel delays.
>
> The linux releases are also years apart.
>
Yes, of course. In order to provide a significant performance
improvement. Otherwise why to make a new release?
> > > The other factor is that the cost of the hardware item has a significant
> > > amount attributable to raw components, processes, and production. It's
> not
> > > economical to just throw away a 650 processor when the 700 comes out.
> With
> > > software, the actual cost to manufacture the product is near 0, which
> means
> > > it's quite economical to just throw it away rather than reduce it's
> price.
> >
> > Again, I'm talking about the price INCREASES of Crimosoft software.
>
> Something you have not yet proven.
>
What was the retail price of Office 95 and what is the retail price of
Office 2000?
(BTW, Office 95 was significantly better than Office 2000)
> > > > > Many components have gone UP in price. The GeForce 3 video card
> > > > > will cost $599, the GeForce 2 Ultra costs $499.
> > > >
> > > > I'm willing to agree here, but would ask just how much horsepower
> these
> > > > babies have. Those prices are the cost of a good PC box today!
> > >
> > > Windows ME certainly has orders of magnitude more software that comes
> with
> > > it than Windows 95 when it first came out.
> >
> > How many CDs does it come on? Same number as Windows 95, or not?
> > (I don't know, because there's no way in hell I'm wasting my money on
> > ME... I learned my lesson with 98.)
>
> Windows 95 (original version) took about 20 megs for the entire set of cabs
> and setup files. Windows ME takes over 120 Megs.
>
> > Standard RedHat comes on four CDs now. (2 binaries, 1 document CD, and
> > 1 source-code CD). That's one more than the previous version came on.
>
> Those CD's aren't full, they're packaged so they can easily split the
> distributions for different price levels.
>
> The binary CD's also contain source code.
Are you kidding? Latest distros (RH, Mandrake, Suse) if you install all
the software take 4 to 6 GB of your HD. Not taking sources into account,
of course.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:28:45 -0500
Reefer wrote:
>
> > > "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Annoys the fuck out of you, doesn't it.
>
> No, not really, but clearly it annoys the hell out of u, but what does annoy
> me is braindead linsuxvocates like u pretending to be a "unix administrator"
> and advocating linsux by insulting people at the same time as u are using
> Windows 98, and here is your header;
>
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (Win98; U)
Look, Martha, he feel for it.
>
> Now...that doesnt inspire much confidence in what u are saying about *nix
> vs windows.....does it?
Yes...I compiled that string into the code.
Security through obfuscation.
Now...tell me what OS I'm *actually* using.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:31:09 -0500
Micah Cowan wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Edward Rosten wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <979rsq$c3s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dan Pop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In <979mmq$i3t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > >>> There are 2 pi radians in a full circle, so the conversion is pi /
> > > >>> 180.0:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> double deg_to_rad(double degrees)
> > > >>> {
> > > >>> return degrees * 3.14159265358979323846 / 180.0;
> > > >>> }
> > > >>
> > > >>It would be easier to use M_PIl as #defined in math.h
> > > >
> > > > <math.h> has no licence to define such a macro when the compiler is
> > > > invoked in conforming mode.
> > >
> > > Is there an official place where a definition of PI is meant to reside?
> > >
> >
> > /usr/include/math.h
> >
> > he was talking saying that a macro to implement the function listed
> > above doesn't belone in math.h
> >
> > > -Ed
>
> Um - no. I believe he distinctly said "macro."
>
> And there is no definition of PI in Standard C.
Standard C doesn define getc(), putc(), printf(), scanf(), read(), nor write(), either.
What does that have to do with anything?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:32:04 -0500
Joona I Palaste wrote:
>
> Martin Ambuhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled the following
> on comp.lang.c:
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >>
> >> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> > Words almost fail me. You seem to be proud of your right to be ignorant,
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> Yes...I take my Constitutional rights VERY seriously.
>
> > Contrary to the opinion of people like Mr. Kulkis, the right to be stupid --
> > so prized by so many Americans -- is not mentioned in the Constitution at all.
>
> And as much as you hate it, Aaron, I have the full right not to care
> diddly-squat about your Constitution.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest, as long as you do nothing to
infringe my Constitutional rights.
>
> --
> /-- Joona Palaste ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---------------------------\
> | Kingpriest of "The Flying Lemon Tree" G++ FR FW+ M- #108 D+ ADA N+++|
> | http://www.helsinki.fi/~palaste W++ B OP+ |
> \----------------------------------------- Finland rules! ------------/
>
> "You could take his life and..."
> - Mirja Tolsa
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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