Linux-Advocacy Digest #535, Volume #32 Tue, 27 Feb 01 18:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Judge Harry Edwards comments.... (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux--First Impressions from a semi-newbie (Scott Gardner)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: The Windows guy. (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] ("Chad Myers")
Re: [OT] .sig (Dave Vandervies)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: State of linux distros ("Reefer")
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Judge Harry Edwards comments....
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:43:41 -0500
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Its rather ammusing that a country that lectures the world on democracy
> and fighting corruption, the US citizens allow it to happen on their own
> back door step. There is a total lack of any credibility in regards to
> the upper house and DOJ when trying large coporations who blantantly
> break the law, and show no remorse. Look at the number of Senators in
> the upper house who take bribes, aka "campaign contributions" or
> "donations to such-and-such's chariety". Hence the reason a total ban
> on anyforms of payment to parties etc is needed to ensure real
> administration is carried out, not, running the country run by large
> coporations in stelth mode. Had there been real credibility, Georgie
> Bush would have told Microsoft to go suck eggs in regard to "influencing
> the out come", and Microsoft would have benn given a beating. In
> regards to the populast notion of Microsoft helps the average user,
> BULL-SHYTE, I find it rather ammusing (from down here (New Zealand)),
> that so many yankies put there large coporates on a pedda-stool,
> praising them for their "innovation", yet, bitch because they don't like
> free trade and multi-nationals, THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING THING!, get
I'm the opposite. I like free trade and have no problem with
multi-nationals...but I *still* think Mafia$oft is a flagrantly
criminal organization (precisely because they block free trade).
I notice also that the Demoncrook party gives a lot of lip-service
to "diversity", while at the same time, fans the flames of xenophobia
about any immigrant group that doesn't have outlandish numbers who
are uneducated and on the welfare rolls, or irresponsibly stupid to
the point of getting themselves infected with AIDS.
> over it. In New Zealand, and probably in the other "colonies", there is
> a vigorous hatred and suspicion of Large corporations, and those who
> don't give back to the community and abide by the laws face the rath of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What do you call the products that they sell, and the wages they
pay the employees. As these are all VOLOUNTARY transactions, the
corporation is already "giving back" to the community.
"Giving back the community" is merely the latest communist slogan.
> the public, hence the reason why SUN Microsystems, Linux etc have been
> so successful in New Zealand, the compete, yet realise where the line is
> drawn between bully tacticks and fair competition. Had Microsoft setup
> shop in New Zealand they would be punished by almost every law under the
> sun, such as selling faulty goods, and not diclosing that information in
> regards to those faults, the list goes on and on.
I don't oppose Mafia$oft for failing to "give back to the community"...
I hate them because their business model is based upon fraud, vandalism
(of customers' data, and of installed applications written by third
parties), extortion, and racketeering.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >
> > http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews
> > /story.tmpl?table=n&cat=50300&id=200102261557000226907
> >
> > The Department of Justice and 19 states argue
> > the findings of District Court Judge Thomas Penfield
> > Jackson should stand, citing evidence presented during 78
> > days of trial.
> >
> > This paragraph of information is absolutely true.
> > 19 states and the Department of Justice filed this action.
> > They argued the trial for 78 days.
> >
> > On Day #1, if you go bother to go back and read the trial
> > notes, YOU DID NOT SEE JUDGE THOMAS PENFIELD JACKSON
> > making judgement on the validity of the DOJ's claims,
> > the 19 states claims, nor even Microsofts claims.
> >
> > That's because Thomas Penfield Jackson was acting like
> > a judge should. He was going to JUDGE the TRIAL.
> >
> > If you bother to read the new clips, there everywhere,
> > you will see that Microsoft is directly accusing
> > Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson of being BIASED and
> > against them the entire trial.
> >
> > Here's one of the new Judges comments.
> > We have Judge Harry Edwards saying the following.
> >
> > "You're going to replace one monopoly with another if
> > you're right," appeals court chief judge Harry Edwards told
> > government lawyers.
> >
> > Elsewhere in the article we read this.
> >
> > "You don't seriously assume that
> > you have competing middleware operations, do you?"
> > asked Edwards.
> >
> > You know, the phone company was once a monopoly and
> > the government broke them up. We used to pay
> > over a buck a minute to call my Grandmothers house.
> >
> > If she were alive today, I could call her for 5 cents
> > a minute. And considering inflation causing the price
> > of housing to go 6 times higher than then, the price
> > of gas to go 6 times higher than then, to pay 5 cent
> > a minute for longdistance is incredible.
> >
> > I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHERE IS THIS JUDGES BRAIN ANYWAY?
> > DOESN'T HE UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU BREAK MICROSOFT UP INTO
> > CHUNKS THEN YOU'VE CREATED COMPETION AND THERE WILL BE
> > NO MONOPOLY? THAT WHEN THEY BROKE UP THE PHONE COMPANY
> > THERE WERE NO NEW COMPANIES CREATED FROM THE DUST TO ESTABLISH
> > MONOPOLY POWER. ONLY THE PEICES REMAINED TO COMPETE!
> >
> > DID HE ABSOLUTELY FORGET THAT THE ACTION FOR THE APPEAL
> > WAS TO STOP THE BREAKUP. THAT THE BREAKUP WAS WHAT THE
> > APPEAL WAS ALL ABOUT.
> >
> > WHERE IS JUDGE EDWARDS BRAIN? WAS THE MAN BORN YESTERDAY?
> > OR IS THIS GUY ALREADY BIASED FROM DAY 1.
> >
> > Jeffrey Minear is one of the DOJ attorneys being questioned.
> > We have this exchange from Judge Harry Edwards after he
> > questioned Jeffrey Minear about the "POSSIBILIY" of creating
> > just another monopoly if they broke Microsoft up.
> >
> > "I can't say that it's inconceivable that a situation could
> > arise where there would be..." Minear answered before
> > Edwards cut him short with: "You haven't argued that."
> >
> > It is obvious to me that Judge Harry Edwards IS BIASED against
> > the U.S. Governments actions and he's BIASED on the FIRST DAY!
> >
> > Not 78 days, but the FIRST DAY.
> >
> > Also I checked http://www.msnbc.com and noticed they had
> > NO COVER story on this on the front page.
> >
> > That's amazing!
> >
> > http://home.netscape.com/
> >
> > That's where we find the lead of the article we've read.
> > And there's a poll which shows over 60 % of Americans
> > feel Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson was biased in his
> > trial of Microsoft.
> >
> > Here are two more peices of the article you can read for
> > yourself
> >
> > "I think the intriguing thing in the afternoon was the chief
> > judge led the charge (against the government's case) on
> > some of these issues," said William Kovacic, a professor of
> > antitrust law at George Washington University.
> >
> > Intriguing, LED.... These are very interesting words.
> >
> > Isn't it really the JOB of the MICROSOFT ATTORNEY'S TO DO THIS?
> > This judge hasn't even seen all the evidence for himself.
> > The trial has just started. If this were true then it would
> > be the post trial comments of the judge. These comments
> > would be made during the ruling section....
> >
> > The judge's questions "did much more damage to the
> > government than they did to Microsoft," said Robert Lande,
> > a law professor at the University of Baltimore.
> >
> > Robert Lande says it best.
> > It's just like the Republicans say, the government is corrupt and
> > evil.
> >
> > Yeah right. 19 states file this action. Everybody was having
> > a coffee and a donought when all this ocurred. It was just
> > like the presidential elections in Florida. Nobody knew how
> > to make their ballot but they thought they were doing right.
> >
> > 19 states of elected officials were completely on drugs.
> > They were OFF their rocker. They ALL GOT BIASED at the SAME TIME
> > towards MICROSOFT.
> >
> > And Jeffery Minear is one of them.
> >
> > Even thought he wasn't at Jacksons trial, he's one of them.
> >
> > He was just the specialist attorney the DOJ appointed to
> > handle this appeal trial.
> >
> > This just stupify's me. It really does.
> >
> > The Judge argues the point that to break up Microsoft will just
> > create ANOTHER monopoly?
> >
> > Just like the phone company thing. They are all one big strange
> > monopoly who's went from $1.20 a minute to 5 cents.
> >
> > Oh, and the phone company officials are all on drugs also.
> >
> > http://judgelink.org/about/AdvisoryBd/Edwards.htm
> >
> > There's the judges web site. Appointed by President Carter.
> >
> > I am absolutely positive that if this attempt to break up
> > Microsoft does fail and justice is reduced that another
> > attempt will be made in the future.
> >
> > The AT&T breakup BTW was actually initiated in 1958 and
> > finished in 1984 when the decree finally was approved.
> >
> > Justice does happen. It sure isn't swift.
> >
> > The we run into people like Judge Harry Edwards with
> > their contemptable logic and appearent lack of historical
> > knowledge, which lead me to conclude that we will end
> > up going around with Microsoft again in the future.
> >
> > I don't think for one minute the appeal court is going
> > to give this trial a fair trial nor represent the best
> > interests of the American people.
> >
> > Clearly they are not using their heads on day 1.
> > And this is not proceedural notions either.
> >
> > The is pure bias from day 1.
> >
> > And I ask how this happened?
> >
> > Charlie
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Subject: Re: Linux--First Impressions from a semi-newbie
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:41:48 GMT
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:30:53 +0000, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> I'm not positive what "backported" means, but it's not 2.2 that's
>
>Drivers for a new kernel proted to an older kernel.
>
Okay, that makes sense. It just didn't make any sense to me when you
posted it because the device driver I have isn't for 2.4, it was for
2.2. What I need is a way to "forward-port"?? my device driver so I
can use it on 2.4.
How does installing device drivers work under linux anyway?
Let's say that I'm running kernel 2.4.2, and I'm fat, dumb, and happy,
but I have one piece of hardware that isn't supported. Then the
hardware company decides to write a device driver to support my
hardware under kernel 2.4.2. In what form would they distribute the
driver? Would it be an installable package, like an RPM? Or as just
a simple binary that I would have to work into the kernel files before
I compiled it? That is my biggest unanswered question so far--"how do
you incorporate support for a hardware device into a kernel when the
hardware isn't supported by the kernel to begin with?" The only way
I've done it up to this point is by providing a driver disc during the
original install of RH 7.0, but that doesn't help me upgrade the
kernel to 2.4.2 while maintaining the support for the RAID card, since
I can't use the RH install routine to install any kernel other than
2.2.16-22.
Scott
>> worked. Now I don't have any pressing need to upgrade to 2.4 until I
>> want to get my USB printer and camera working. Until then, I have an
>> old parallel color deskjet and a parallel Laserjet that both work just
>> fine under 2.2
>
>I believe you can get USB working under 2.2.
>
>-Ed
>
>
>
>--
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:46:13 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On 27 Feb 2001 09:09:33 GMT, Steve Mading wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >But the argument I've just offered is pretty much the same as the one
> >you objected to. I'm officially confused now.
>
> No, it's completely different. Read the other argument. The other argument
> said (essentially) that "DOS pipes can't do everything that UNIX pipes
> can do, therefore they are not pipes". This argument is obviously
> inadequate (unless you use "UNIX pipe" as a definition of pipe, which
> sort of defines the argument into triviality)
Wrong. Any multi-tasking operating system *can* implement pipes properly.
DR-DOS implements pipes properly.
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:46:17 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Erik Funkenbusch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:00:43 -0600
<6vFm6.460$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:976bmc$drc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> : The definition says it's a queue of bytes between two processes. A file
>is
>> : most definately a queue of bytes. And it bridges two programs via their
>> : stdin and stdout.
>>
>> Programs != Processes.
>>
>> The DOS style is actually a temporary storage between one process and
>> ITSELF, because there is only one process in DOS. At different times it
>> is populated by different program images, but it is only one process.
>
>I see you didn't comment on my arguments about other OS's that also don't
>have processes, but do have multitasking such as AmigaOS and MacOS <= 9.x
Pedant point.
AmigaOS was a fully-PMT [*] quite OO OS -- back before "OO" became such
a magical buzzword (a lot of things were done using Node and List).
It had Task and Process in its internals, mostly because it had two
layers: one extremely elegant layer in the ROM, and one
not-quite-so-elegant-but-workable layer that was loaded in from disk.
And yes, it had pipes -- named pipes, in fact.
MacOS 6.x was a CMT affair; I don't know whether it had pipes or not.
I haven't really used anything newer.
>
>What about DR-DOS which multitasks DOS programs?
I for one dunno about it, so can't comment.
[*] Preemptive/Cooperative Multi-Tasking. A PMT system can be
interrupted at any instruction; a CMT system has to occasionally
Yield() -- although not directly (one could call WaitForKey() or
somesuch, for example; that would Yield() as part of the implementation).
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 22d:04h:58m actually running Linux.
The EAC doesn't exist, but they're still watching you.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:48:57 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> The fact is that after the government privatised the railways, safety
> >> went down the tube and they're having to bail out the company that owns
> >> th railways with more public money.
> >
> > Lousy management is its own reward.
> >
> > Of course, since you guys have become sooooooo fucking socialist, all of
>
> Yeah, sure. Whatever.
>
> > your best managers left LONG ago for the United States.
>
> So its come down to "my country is better than yours" arguments. This is
> my last word on this thread.
No. Our politico-economic system is better than yours.
If the US ever becomes as socialist as England, I will leave....
maybe even change citizenship.
Socialism is merely a polite word for politicians stealing from
those who work for the benefit of those who choose not to do so.
>
> cut the sig.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:34:17 GMT
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Shane Phelps
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:18:22 +1100
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >>
> >[ snip ]
> >
> >Come on gents, let's stop bothering the nice people on css now that this
> >thread has strayed way off-topic.
> >
> >They were nice enough to give Chad a Black Knight job, so let's not
> >bother them any more.
>
> Uh...dumb question, but what the heck is a "Black Knight" job? :-)
Well, I don't know what the "technical" definition is, but the
practical application of it was to ignore all facts, insult anyone
who raises concerns about their precious and "flawed" security joke,
and then continue to flame them whenever they raise these concerns
again.
-Chad
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Vandervies)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: 27 Feb 2001 22:16:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>In Usenet, it's not difficult to spot clueless Americans.
I'm not sure I agree with this. Clueless people in general are easy to
spot, but often it's difficult to tell whether someone (clueless or not)
is American or not unless they're obnoxiously proud of it one way or
the other.
(After all, I've been mistaken for an American...)
dave
--
Dave Vandervies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Never offend with style when you can offend with substance.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:51:13 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Steve Mading wrote:
> :>
> :> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> : Wrong.
> :>
> :> : Pipes REQUIRE multitasking.
> :>
> :> : Pipe are an INTER-PROCESS COMMUNICATION method....*NOT*
> :> : short-hand for system-generated tempfiles between seperately
> :> : run processes.
> :>
> :> Dos didn't even techncially have seperate one-at-a-time processes.
> :> By the CS meanings of the word, it had one process that lived
> :> forever, frequently replacing it's code with a new load from an
> :> EXE or COM file.
>
> : Oh god, that's sick.
>
> Not really - just what it means to be not multiprocessing.
> This is the same way all other non-multiprocess OSes were.
>
> When a program ends and another starts, the OS doesn't do
> the same sort of process-shutdown stuff that it does on
> a multiprocessing system. It doesn't close files. It doesn't
> free up memory. If a program dies prematurely, it leaves
> junk behind. In Unix parlance, think of it like this:
> The text segment contains the OS, and the COMMAND.COM
> shell, and the TSRs and the currently loaded program,
> but this is all in the same 'text segment', with one
> 'context record' that threads between these routines. When
> the currently loaded program dies and a new one is loaded,
> the portion of the 'text segment' containing the OS, the
> COMMAND.COM, and the TSRs stays in place, and the portion
> containing the program is 'exec'ed to bring in the new image,
> but the PROCESS never really goes through a process-death
> and restart cycle, because the OS, COMMAND.COM and TSRs are
> all part of the one big process and they can't be killed.
Ah, ok. From your original description, it sounded like even the
in-memory image of COMMAND.COM gets over-written every time the user
runs a command, and that upon completion, COMMAND.COM gets reloaded...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Reefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:55:58 GMT
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i
meddelandet news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Mind you, that's not saying a whole lot; Linux started off with that
> capability back in '94 -- and I'm not sure Windows NT even existed back
> then. (If it did, it hadn't been around that long.)
>
First version of NT; Windows NT version 3.1, was released on July 17, 1993,
and is to date one of the best OS that MS has ever made -stable as a rock,
never got that one to crash....will be interesting to se if Win2k can take
over that torch.....
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