Linux-Advocacy Digest #770, Volume #32 Mon, 12 Mar 01 07:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time (false analogies, and purposeful
misuse.) (Rob S. Wolfram)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and misleading claims about GPL software being
free (Rob S. Wolfram)
LOCAL: Linux-based PDA Demo in Davis, CA (William Kendrick)
Re: There is money in Linux ("Osugi Sakae")
Re: The Linux office, a possible future..... (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (Pat McCann)
Re: There is money in Linux (Edward Rosten)
Re: There is money in Linux (Edward Rosten)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Edward Rosten)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Edward Rosten)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Edward Rosten)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Edward Rosten)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Edward Rosten)
Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone? (Edward Rosten)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (phil hunt)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (phil hunt)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (phil hunt)
Re: Windows API (Was Re: Mircosoft Tax) (Giuliano Colla)
Re: You're stealing my money (Giuliano Colla)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob S. Wolfram)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time (false analogies, and
purposeful misuse.)
Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:14:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Actually, it is based upon the lie that it is free. When it was understood
>that is the basis of misunderstanding by me A LONG TIME AGO, and that
>I didn't really care about the GPL itself, the matter became clear.
[snipped more GPL is free == a lie]
Are you not free because you cannot consider someone else's property
your own?
Are you not free because you cannot walk around naked in every public
place?
Are you not free because some stupid red light prohibits you to drive
through?
Are you not free because you cannot kill your spouse when (s)he sets the
volume of the TV too high?
Spotted the sillyness yet?
The GPL is designed to guarantee the freedom to *use* and *modify* your
software as you see fit. To prevent anyone from denying you that
freedom, restrictions have been placed on you *distributing* the
software or modifications of the software (nearly verbatim from the GPL
preamble).
Yes, I call GPLed software free. Just like I find that I live in a free
country, een though I have to abide by the law.
Cheers,
Rob
--
Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
Hackers make things, crackers break things.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob S. Wolfram)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and misleading claims about GPL software
being free
Date: 12 Mar 2001 07:17:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>3) Free software doesn't add conditions if you wish to give software away.
[snip explanation of this point]
>4) Free software is fully redistributable in source or binary form,
>seperately or together. Free software doesn't restrict redistribution
>because of the inability to provide any more information than the
>end-user selected portions of the distribution.
Essentiall the same point as 3
>Allowable restrictions for free software:
>1) Credits.
>2) Hold harmless.
>3) Legal requirements for export.
These are your subjective restrictions for determining when software is
free.
The GPL does not permit unrestricted distribution of GPLed code, so I'd
say it is non-free regarding distribution. It *does* however, permit
free and unrestricted use, so regarding the use the GPL constitutes free
software. Apparently you calling it non-free and me calling it free does
depend on the perspective.
All in all, I think the GPL perfectly suits the purpose for which it was
drawn up, namely preventing that code that was originally written up as
free software gets used as non-free.
Cheers,
Rob
--
Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
Q: Where did the names "C" and "C++" come from?
A: They were grades
-- Jerry Leichter
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOCAL: Linux-based PDA Demo in Davis, CA
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,sac.announce,sac.general
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:37:47 GMT
LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will hold its next meeting on:
Monday
March 19, 2001
6:30pm - 9:30pm
The meeting will be held at:
Z-World, Inc.
2900 Spafford Street
Davis, CA 95616
The topic will be:
Agenda VR3 Linux-based PDA
presented by Bill Kendrick
Bill Kendrick will be demonstrating the recently-released development
version of AgendaComputing's "Agenda VR3" personal digital assistant (PDA).
The VR3 is one of many new Linux-based handheld computers coming to market
in the next few months.
LUGOD Winter 2001 CD:
At this meeting, LUGOD will be passing out free CDROMs containing
the two most recent versions of the Linux kernel,
free Linux software (including the PhotoShop-like "GIMP", and the free
productivity suite "StarOffice"), and lots of electronic documentation.
For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:
http://www.lugod.org/meeting/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the Linux Operating System,
and which holds meetings twice a month in Davis, CA.
Meetings are always free, and open to the public.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: "Osugi Sakae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: There is money in Linux
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:20:19 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brent R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Last week marked a milestone. At every Border's and Barnes and Noble
> I've ever been too (including the one in downtown Boston), I had never
> seen someone browsing the computer section. A few times I've seen some
> people walk over there and start looking at the books, but they quickly
> realize their mistake and walk over to the business and finance section
> (which is ALWAYS located in the immediate vicinity of the computer
> section).
> Last week I witnessed a middle-aged man walk over to the computer
> section and pick out a book on VB (I think). I was amazed.
>
> Personally, I'm like a kid at a candy store in that section, but I've
> always wondered how O'Reilly-and-Que-type businesses stay in business.
>
> I did go to a Compucenter (I think that's what it's called) in Newton
> Mass though, and the tech-book section was quite busy. But that's a
> specialized store.
>
> Anyone else eXPerience this phenomenon?
Here in mid-sized city in middle-of-nowhere japan, the bigger bookstores
have great computer sections. (Granted, there are only 4.) All sorts of
Windows, Linux, *BSD, (even some BeOS) stuff, not to mention the books
dealing with software (ie non-os books). Most (but not mostly) of O'Reilly's
stuff. And I see people in the computer section all the time. Usually have to
push them out of the way so I can look at the linux stuff too. Even carry
three or four linux mags (japanese ones, nothing famous).
And that is in a mid-sized city in the middle-of-nowhere. But then, I
also know plenty of people that have never even heard of linux. Guess
there isn't as much hype about it here - just lots of companies putting
it on their servers.
--
Osugi Sakae
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Linux office, a possible future.....
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:45:19 +0100
Brent R wrote:
>
> BTW, out of my own ignorance, why didn't Minix take off?
>
Several reasons:
Licence not good.
Too expensive.
Not really a good OS to work with, albeit a good one to learn how it works.
Still have an original box around somewhere (version which runs on
8088-Processors)
Peter
--
A blue screen is nothing to worry about,
just press [CTRL]+[ALT]+[DEL] and format c:
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
From: Pat McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Mar 2001 02:27:33 -0800
> >"phil hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >>
> >> What's wrong with the principle "I'll share with you if you share
> >> with me"?
Really meanning. "I'll share with you if and only if you'll share with
me". In less pleasant words "I won't share with you if won't share with me".
But that isn't even the principle. Copyleft has "I won't share (this)
with you if you won't share (everthing of yours that uses it) with
the world".
You don't see anything wrong with that? I do on many counts. First, in
typical GNU-speak, it isn't sharing at all; it's trading of valuable
intellectual property rights (as is done by the "evil" corprorations).
Second it reminds me of my nasty little brother who wouldn't let me and
my friends play with his ball unless he could play with us. Third, it's
often a lousy deal, sharing one-to-many instead of one-to-one. Doing
the math, it's trading on the part of the GNU licensor and mostly
gifting on the part of the licensee. I could go on.
And if I'm inclined to use a liberal license on my work, I'll see the
copyleft principle as "I'll won't share (this) with you unless you'll
agree to create a conservatively licensed derivative (of it)." That
results in a loss of developers.
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: There is money in Linux
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:35:20 +0000
> > Just go in to any book shop with a computer section.
>
> And count the number of Windows books, or Java, or HTML or... pick the
> favourite fad.
It's about 3/4 the size of the section on C. Or are C and html now fads?
> > I went in to Blackwell's the other day. The Linux section is getting
> > quite big.
>
> In proportion to what?
1 what it was before
2 other sections
> > Well, looks like someone is making plenty of money otu of Linux.
>
> Someone was making money out of Dot COM's until the bubble burst.
I'm not talking about shares and so on. I'm talking about real tangible
items such as books and CDs which are being sold in reasonable
quanitities in real shops.
> Are you investing in Linux companies?
I'm investing in ISA's. I can let someone do the investing for me that
way, and I can waste more time on cola :-)
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: There is money in Linux
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:43:54 +0000
> > I'm not going to bother quoting stock prices or revenues for corporate
> > distribution makers bacause I couldn't be bothered.
>
> Probably because you know the stock prices don't look good.
Not really. I haven't been following the stock prices. Besides, I'm
refering to a facet that is doing well that people like you choose to
ignore.
> > Just go in to any book shop with a computer section.
> >
> > I went in to Blackwell's the other day. The Linux section is getting
> > quite big.
> >
> > There were about 10 different CD's avaliable [*] and I couldn't be
> > bothered to count the number of books (but I did notice the Linux for
> > Dummies).
> >
> > Well, looks like someone is making plenty of money otu of Linux.
>
> Did you see anyone actually BUYING those books?
Apart from me at that instant? No, but I didn't see anyone pick up and
buy a book in the clasic literature section either. I also wasn't in
there for a very long time: I was on my way to get Numerical Recipies in
C and detoured to the Linux section.
However, Blackwells hasn't become the biggest single bookstore (or is it
the second biggest) in the country by filling its shelves with stuff
noone wants to buy, so if they're putting it on the shelves, then I'd
expect its selling. It's not like they don't have plenty of competition
either.
Mabey you should write a letter to them telling them why their business
plan is wrong.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:48:12 +0000
> > So do you concede that the applications can bypass the printer drivers
> > if they wish?
> >
> > YES
> >
> > or
> >
> > NO
>
> Why the focus on the wrong part of the conversation?
I'm not. You claimed that linux was bad because applications could
bypass the printer drivers. Other people have stated windows progs that
allow this, but you ignored them. I've pointed out an example that you
have esay access to you.
I assume that you do concede my point since you are squirming.
Now, building on this point, why is Linux bad for letting other apps
bypass the printer drivers?
And one final point: try file->print (or equivalent) under most Linux
apps. Guess what happens. Hint: it prints.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:48:48 +0000
>
> Ed - You KNEW it would not last, right? *snickers*
I suppose i could have guessed <g>
-Ed
> >
> > > Looks like an end to the rants about your bolloxed computer. Thank
> god...
> >
>
> > Whilst SuSE looks nicer, I see it still has some of the problems present
> > in Linux Mandrake. It tries to mangle my network cards by installing the
> > wrong ones on each device.
> >
> > SuSE are aware of this problem - see
> >
> > http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/ashley_dhcp-2nics.html
> >
> > Unfortunately, their solution doesn't seem to work.
> >
> > This is something that works flawlessly and immediately on Windows, yet
> > here we go again with Linux 2.4.
> >
> > --
> > Pete
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:58:53 +0000
Robert Edward Wieman wrote:
>
> Hey. This discussion is painful, but the argumentative part of me just feels
> compelled to comment...
I just can't let go grrr.
> Incidentally, AFAIK, postscript is text. Not totally unlike a markup language,
> it's a big text file that describes how to print formatted text and graphics.
It isn't really liek a markup language. It's a (turing-complete)
propgramming language quite like Forth (ie stack based) with drawing
primitives built in.
> If a printer understands postscript, and knows that postscript is coming, it
> interprets the text of the postscript file correctly, and prints what you want.
> If it doesn't understand postscript, or (much more likely) isn't warned that
> that's what's being sent, it happily prints the text without interpreting,
> which is where all those pages of numbers and percent signs come from.
Usually, the line like:
%!Adobe something or other blah
at the top of the file warns the printer or interprter that the file is
postscript. Without it, my printfilters assum it's just plain text.
> From what I can tell, GIMP output a Postscript file and then sent it on to
> Mr. Goodwin's printer without going through the appropriate driver (that is,
> without telling the printer what it was getting.) This is because the GIMP
> assumed postscript by default, rather than using the "standard" printer
> setting that was set earlier, as everyone is now aware.
The default printing system is just to send postscript to the relavent
queue, so it was doing that correctly. Normally, the printer doesn't
need to be told what it is getting (the filters automagically figure it
out). In PG's case, the GIMP _was_ telling the printer queue
(incorrectly) that it was sending rawe data not to be filtered.
> In the current context, the GIMP might use its own set of drivers for a variety
> of reasons: the developers might not have faith in the "default" drivers, or
> they might not know if drivers are going to be available for every
> distribution, platform, and OS that the GIMP runs on.
Another alternative is that GIMP prints bitmaps and printers print
bitmaps, so it is more efficient to print straight to a bitmap than it
is to go through a high level description like postscript.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:01:34 +0000
> > There is no difference, as you have already been shown. In BOTH,
> > there exist standard ways all apps on the system can print through
> > the same 'drivers', and in BOTH, there exist apps that circumvent
> > this service the OS provides.
>
> Except 100% of the apps I use on Windows use this unified model. I've yet
> to see one that doesn't.
Well you do have one. Try using edit.com as shipped with win95 and
newer. That dumps raw text straight to the printer.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:11:35 +0000
> > > Look who's talking!
> >
> > I simply disagree with you. That is different from producing incorrect
> > facts, which is what you are doing.
>
> I've never posted incorrect facts. What are you talking about?
Yes you have. You claimed that GIMP sending PS to your printer was the
wrong thing to do. I can't be bothered to dig up any more.
> > > WHY?
> >
> > There are several reasons. Some possibilities are:
> >
> > It is less efficient to go from bitmap->high level device independent
> > language->bitmap than it is to go from bitmap->bitmap
>
> Hmmm... I'd have thought an OS designer would want the most efficient
> drivers in the OS, not an application.
You have no understanding of these things. PS is a high level
description that is very device independent and can effciently print
text and vector drawings and makes it trivial to use subimages (EPS)
files. It is not as efficient on bitmaps, but it can reliably print them
(device independent of course) without too much effort.
It is not possible to get a tool that is 100% efficient at everything.
PS makes a pretty good attempt and is reaasonable efficient at most
things whilst being device independent.
On my computer, a lowly P133, I don't notice when the PS interpreter
prints bitmaps.
So in conclusion, PS does a very good most of the time in most
situations. If postscript is so bad, then point me to a much better
solution.
> > As it stands, you can ignore the extra drivers (I dare say there is an
> > option at compile time to avoid them) and use postscript liek every
> > other app under Linux. in your case, you'd have to switch off the raw
> > option or get rig of CUPS.
>
> You can ignore them _after_ you got the wrong result.
I have trouble following what you are saying at times.
> > > In my case, I got text. Postscript as text.
> >
> > Of course you did. Now, Pete, don't be such a creep again. You have
> > quoted what I said completely out of context in order to reverse the
> > point of my post. Don't do that again.
>
> I've no idea what you're talking about.
See below.
> > I asked him to try printing to a file from many apps such as NS, xv,
> > etc, etc and look at what they produced. They all produce postscript
> > text.
>
> And I responded by pointing out The Gimp dumped text to the printer.
>
> So how does that make me a "creep"?
Yopu were trying to make the point about GIMP printing PS when it
shouldn't. By snipping all the bits about the other apps printing PS,
you reversed the point opf my argument simply by snipping bits you
didn't like. That is generally considered poor behaviour.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:21:17 +0000
> Anyone with even minimal programming expierence can appreciate simple file
> formats. While I went extreme with the idea of a matrix of plaintext hex for a
> .pic format, the easiest .pic file format would be a bit map binary that can
> be read with any hex editor.
That exists, and its calles NetPBM
There are 6 different formats, monochrome text, monochrome binary,
greyscale and colour. I suggest you take a look at the formats. Even the
binary ones are incredibly easy to read with a C program.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the oldest known rock is the famous |u98ejr
Hackenthorpe rock, which is over three trillion years |@
old? |eng.ox
-The Hackenthorpe Book of Lies |.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:25:08 +0000
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:40:43 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The US is a democracy. A particular form of democracy, known as a
>Republic;
Actually, it's the other way round: a democracy is a type of republic.
--
*****[ Phil Hunt ***** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]*****
"Mommy, make the nasty penguin go away." -- Jim Allchin, MS head
of OS development, regarding open source software (paraphrased).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:27:41 +0000
On 11 Mar 2001 04:25:40 -0500, Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:40:44 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>enjoy his freedom. Had society insisted that all software be GPL since
>>before TCP was developed, the Internet would work just fine, save a
>>re-arrangement in the specifics of the business model used by the
>>earliest developers. Claims that the modern world wouldn't exist but
>>for BSD sound rather like Mr. Ballard's routine claims that the Internet
>
>I feel that TCP/IP would not have been used as widely if it had been
>under a more restrictive license. One could argue that it was the
>widespread use of BSD software that made the Internet possible.
My understanding is that a lot of the net's infrastructure is
BSD-licensed. (TCP/IP stack, BIND, Apache, sendmail, etc). Are there
any common infrastructure programs that are GPL licensed?
--
*****[ Phil Hunt ***** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]*****
"Mommy, make the nasty penguin go away." -- Jim Allchin, MS head
of OS development, regarding open source software (paraphrased).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:23:41 +0000
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:08:10 -0500, JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Alas, you cannot refute the fact that GPL'ed code isn't free. :-).
Nor can you refute the fact that you don't own the English language,
and are therefore not the sole arbiter of the meaning of "free",
People use words in different, and often mutually exclusive, ways.
Nothing can be done about this, as it is a consequence of how
people think. So you had just better accept that some people use
words differently to you.
--
*****[ Phil Hunt ***** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]*****
"Mommy, make the nasty penguin go away." -- Jim Allchin, MS head
of OS development, regarding open source software (paraphrased).
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Windows API (Was Re: Mircosoft Tax)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:01:22 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> .
> > > (I'm annoyed that I can't copy from/to a terminal window right now, so
> it's
> > > important to me)
> >
> > Why can't you? I can. This is copy/pasted from my terminal window right
> > now:
>
> Not that kind of terminal, I meant Terminal Services, which is another thing
> completely.
> You can't copy / paste to/from TS window, because the copy board is either
> user-wise, and can't be transfered, at least AFAIK.
I was going to tell you how to do it, but I see you've
already got an answer.
--
Giuliano Colla
Before activating the tongue, make sure that the brain is
connected (anonymous)
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: You're stealing my money
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:04:35 GMT
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> It has come to my attention that, in spite of the simple
> terms of the EULA below (in the signature line), that
> certain people, in replying to my messages, are quoting
> my words. Please remember that these words are my
> intellectual property, and I have the right of due
> recompense for your usage of my words, notwithstanding
> that quoting the message can be construed as not
> making a copy, but merely a quote; and notwithstanding
> that some of my words may convey incorrect opinions that
> may be construed as analogous to bugs; however, I insist
> that the copying of any of my words be accompanied by
> a transmittal of funds to my account in the amount
> of US$ 49.99 per message quoted.
>
> Please note that my lawyers will be monitoring
> for compliance using a newsgroup filter.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Chris
>
> --
> [ Do Not Make Illegal Copies of This Message ]
This quotation is for educational purposes only. :-)
--
Giuliano Colla
Before activating the tongue, make sure that the brain is
connected (anonymous)
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