Linux-Advocacy Digest #947, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Mar 01 20:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (.)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (.)
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Here's a load of horse crap (Giuliano Colla)
Re: KDE 2.1 oopsie! (Jim Broughton)
Re: so can Windows do this ? ("Andy Walker")
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Chad Myers")
Re: KDE 2.1 oopsie! (The Ghost In The Machine)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:42:09 -0500
Nik Simpson wrote:
>
> "Craig Oshima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:wcQt6.1131$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > > The most popular Unix GUI's are also EASIER to use than the Windows
> GUI's.
> >
> > Pphhh. When you've seen users struggle to get through the things you
> think
> > are easy, your attitude will be informed by more than your arrogant
> > opinions.
> >
> Craig,
> when you've hung out here a little longer, you'll come to realize that
> Aaron is impervious, to reason, logic or experience that contradicts him. I
> often wonder how Aaron manages to get enough air with his head so firmly
> planted in his nether regions.
>
That's because I have two decades of real-world EXPERIENCE to back up my views.
> --
> Nik Simpson
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:42:48 -0500
Nik Simpson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Craig Oshima wrote:
> > > Most users (including hackers) do not use hundreds of other programs. A
> > > dozen is probably more than most people ever use. However, the fact
> that
> > > the average cost of any given commercial application is 100 USD or more
> is a
> > > good reason to cheer on Linux.
> >
> > Regardless...
> >
> > A Linux user has a FULLY FUNCTIONAL system within 1 hour of booting
> > the installation disk.
> >
> > For a Windows user, getting even basic functionality takes close
> > to a DAY.
> >
>
> I guess I must be the exception that proves the rule, I just installed a new
> desktop for myself at work, went from a blank 20GB hard drive to W2K+Office
> and a couple of other apps fully installed in about 1.5hours, a good portion
> of which was formatting the filesystem on the 20GB drive. I can well believe
> that Aaron takes a day to setup a Windows box, but that's more of a comment
> on Aaron than on Windows.
And after 1.5 hours, you had exactly how many applications installed?
DOH!
>
> --
> Nik Simpson
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:43:31 -0500
Nik Simpson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Craig Oshima wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A Linux user has a FULLY FUNCTIONAL system within 1 hour of booting
> > > > the installation disk.
> > > >
> > > > For a Windows user, getting even basic functionality takes close
> > > > to a DAY.
> > >
> > > I sure don't know where you get your information...it doesn't take more
> than
> > > an hour for me to do a clean install of W2K and Office.
> >
> > And all of your other software is .... where.....exactly?
> >
> What other software, for most users, that covers there requirements very
> well, it's got a full office suite, a browser, two mail programs, and full
> GUI I/F on top of the OS, so pray tell us Aaron, what else does the average
> user need or even want?
So..in other words....Windows installs quickly, as long as you don't
intend to use it for anything more than a glorified typewriter.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: 21 Mar 2001 00:43:01 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > "." wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Stephen S. Edwards II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> > Shades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > 8<SNIP>8
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > First of all, Aaron R. Kulkis is considered a
>> >> >> > blithering idiot by both COLA and COMNA
>> >> >> > participants. Secondly, if you think that
>> >> >> > there are no irrational, childish, idiotic
>> >> >> > NT advocates, then you might want to lurk
>> >> >> > about on some of the various IRC nets.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually, kulkis and chad meyers are almost exactly the same person.
>Substitute
>> >> >> "linux" for "windows" appropriately, and you absolutely cannot tell them
>> >> >> apart.
>> >>
>> >> > Wrong.
>> >>
>> >> You appear to be the only one who thinks so, again, just like chad.
>> >>
>> >> > I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
>> >>
>> >> With a few things yes, just like chad. But but your paranoid political
>philosophies
>> >> are IDENTICAL to chads.
>> >>
>> >> > I have the university
>> >> > education
>> >>
>> >> So does chad, and so do I.
>> >>
>> >> > AND the real-world experience to know what the fuck
>> >> > I'm talking about.
>> >>
>> >> Chad says he does too.
>> >>
>> >> > Chad, on the other hand, spews Microsoft propaganda.
>> >>
>> >> You spout the same paranoid conspiracy theorist crap.
>> >>
>> >> > I wonder how much they pay him each month to post his propaganda.
>> >>
>> >> Ah, theres that paranoia again.
>> >>
>> >> > And yes, Microsoft DOES pay people to post on this and other newsgroups.
>> >>
>> >> Alright kulkis, ive asked you before and youve patently refused, but how bout
>> >> some absolute evidence of this statement?
>> >>
>>
>> > You forget the discovery of the "astroturfing" campaign so quickly?
>>
>> > For those who don't get it...that was Microsoft's decision to start
>> > financing a campaign of paid correspondance to *LOOK LIKE* "grassroots"
>> > support.
>>
>> > fake grass => astroturf.
>>
>> Right, I remember that, but I also dont remember seeing ANY kind of evidence
>> that there were ever microsoft plants in COLA. I'm not saying that it hasnt
> Got alzheimer's?
Got a link? Thats all im really asking for. Lets say for the moment that I am
moderately retarded and have no capacity for retention at all.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: 21 Mar 2001 00:43:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> They handled it just fine in the late 1980's.
>> >>
>> >> Are you saying secretaries are stupider these days?
>>
>> > I'll say it.
>>
>> > In fact, most people in general are stupider these days. Consider the
>> > simplicity of the SAT tests, and then consider the fact that they had to
>> > rescale the scores around '95 because too many people couldn't get half of
>> > it right.
>>
>> Whoa, what would the modern day equivalent to 1988 1350's be?
>>
> 1450.
Huh. Thats what ill tell people I got then. :P
=====.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:46:16 -0500
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:46:36 -0500, Nik Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Craig Oshima wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > A Linux user has a FULLY FUNCTIONAL system within 1 hour of booting
> >> > > the installation disk.
> >> > >
> >> > > For a Windows user, getting even basic functionality takes close
> >> > > to a DAY.
> >> >
> >> > I sure don't know where you get your information...it doesn't take more
> >than
> >> > an hour for me to do a clean install of W2K and Office.
> >>
> >> And all of your other software is .... where.....exactly?
> >>
> >What other software, for most users, that covers there requirements very
> >well, it's got a full office suite, a browser, two mail programs, and full
> >GUI I/F on top of the OS, so pray tell us Aaron, what else does the average
> >user need or even want?
> >
> >
>
> A good anti-virus program...and lots of prayer
Only if he's running Mafia$oft LoseDogs...
Real operating systems don't let user-run viruses destroy the whole system.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:47:24 -0500
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:13:53 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"." wrote:
> >>
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Stephen S. Edwards II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Shades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > 8<SNIP>8
> >>
> >> > First of all, Aaron R. Kulkis is considered a
> >> > blithering idiot by both COLA and COMNA
> >> > participants. Secondly, if you think that
> >> > there are no irrational, childish, idiotic
> >> > NT advocates, then you might want to lurk
> >> > about on some of the various IRC nets.
> >>
> >> Actually, kulkis and chad meyers are almost exactly the same person. Substitute
> >> "linux" for "windows" appropriately, and you absolutely cannot tell them
> >> apart.
> >
> >Wrong.
> >
> >I know what the fuck I'm talking about. I have the university
> >education AND the real-world experience to know what the fuck
> >I'm talking about.
> >
> >Chad, on the other hand, spews Microsoft propaganda.
> >
> >I wonder how much they pay him each month to post his propaganda.
> >
> >And yes, Microsoft DOES pay people to post on this and other newsgroups.
> >
> >
>
> I love Microsoft. It is really neat and since it came installed on the
> computer I bought at CompUSA, the installation was really easy. During
Translation: If Mafia$oft wasn't pre-installed, he wouldn't have a preference.
Thank you for that VERY telling admission.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:48:26 -0500
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On 20 Mar 2001 17:14:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy Stephen S. Edwards II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Shades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> 8<SNIP>8
> >
> >> First of all, Aaron R. Kulkis is considered a
> >> blithering idiot by both COLA and COMNA
> >> participants. Secondly, if you think that
> >> there are no irrational, childish, idiotic
> >> NT advocates, then you might want to lurk
> >> about on some of the various IRC nets.
> >
> >Actually, kulkis and chad meyers are almost exactly the same person. Substitute
> >"linux" for "windows" appropriately, and you absolutely cannot tell them
> >apart.
> >
> >
> >
>
> You also need to substitute Kulkis' brain with mush in order to get Meyers.
> Kulkis might be pretty abrasive, but he is orders of magnitude smarter than
> Meyers.
That's because I have both the theoretical knowledge AND practical experience
to spot the liars...
and I just LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE rubbing liars' noses in their shit.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Here's a load of horse crap
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:49:05 GMT
Ed Allen wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Weevil wrote:
> >>
> >> Shades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:990osv$gbn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >
> >> > I suppose those lightbulbs are innovative ideas in the software industry
> >> and
> >> > in the next picture he gets up and stomps all over them :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/default.asp
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > [ Do Not Make Illegal Copies of This Message ]
> >> >
> >>
> >> Q: How many Microsoft programmers does it take to change a light bulb?
> >>
> >> A: Three. Two to hold the ladder and one to hammer the bulb into the
> >> faucet.
> >
> >Sorry, wrong answer. The correct answer is:
> >
> >None. If the bulb goes off then MS declares darkness the new standard.
>
> That is the old answer but his provides enjoyment through
> afterthoughts.
>
> Like:
>
> How many do they break before they figure they need something to
> cushion the hammer blows ?
>
> After making the cushion device and getting it into the faucet they
> will need to make an extraction tool before they can run electric
> wires through the water pipe.
>
> They will need to hire more lawyers to patent this new technology
> they are inventing.
>
> Life is hard when you are a Softie.
You forgot the following.
Once they've finally figured out that in order to insert the bulb you
must push it in and then turn, you have:
Q: How many Microsoft programmers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Five: one to push the bulb, and four to rotate the ladder.
>
> --
> GPL says
> "What's mine is ours,
> If you make *OUR* stuff better the result is still ours."
------------------------------
From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE 2.1 oopsie!
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:53:00 GMT
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> Mig wrote:
>
> > Pete's conclusion that Knode crashes-> KDE 2.1 unstable->Linux Unstable
> > is laughable.
>
> Your statement makes me laugh. Since every single edit control eventually
> made all KDE applications crash, that tells me KDE 2.1 is unstable.
>
> Now I just tried to use drag and drop to copy a directory - the whole
> desktop vanished. No icons, nada, zip, just the background. I killed it
> and got back to a CLI prompt and did the copy by CLI.
>
Pete,
I really have no idea what the hell your talking about and you probably
don't either. I am running the same software as you SuSE 7.1 professional.
I get NO crashes and everything in KDE2 works. Why not buy some better
hardware instead of the crap you seem to have inside your computer case.
I have really gotten tired of your imbicilic rants. Every time I see one of
your posts I have to hold back the chuckles. I see you have a problem with
something yet on my own computer system everything works just fine and we
are using the same software. Either that or your just the most unlucky
computer user I have ever seen.
--
Jim Broughton
(The AmigaOS now there was an OS!)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: so can Windows do this ?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:57:51 -0000
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>>
>> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > Now that you mention it, (Amiga) I had five different independent
>> > windows running graphics animations. I've never seen MS windows do
>> > that.
>>
>> Never used a non-linear editing system, have you?
>>
>> I've seen an NLE doing 2 320x240 30fps video monitors with a third
>> "combined" feed that combines both sources in a transation, while doing
>> motion graphics from a 4th animation source. Granted, that's not 5, but
>> it's 4.
>
>Of course, the backend was a Unix machine.
>
>--
If I remember correctly, when the Amiga OS was written it was done by a
programmer whose previous job was programming UNIX systems and consequently
built it around many similar concepts.
As the designers had never used IBM PC's, their minds were never polluted
with rubbish like MS-DOS and ISA cards hence the fully multi-tasking OS,
true auto-config expansion slots and fully integrated WIMP system.
The Amiga's main achilies heel was always the lack of MMU which resulted in
stability problems but considering the age it was built it was a milestone
in home computer development. Even by todays standards it could teach
Microsoft a thing or two.
I now use my old Amiga4000 to run Linux M68k and in many ways I prefer it to
Linux on a PC platform as the mouse doesn't jitter about amongst other
things!
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:49:22 GMT
"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <3ab61681$0$44575$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jon Johanson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <snip some some stuff>
> >
> > At least they can hit something - unlike the rest of the world's
> > military.
> >
> >
> Hmm,
>
> One example: the Dutch Royal Marine Corps. One of the toughest bunch of
> bastards you've ever seen. Served with distinction in Cambodia, Beirut
> and Bosnia (after our braindead politicians realized that that is no
> place for lightly armed, unsupported troops).
> And this is only a small example, I think a lot of Europeans can think 2
> or 3 more for their own homelands.
> Please refrain from making unsupported and unsupportable claims, you'll
> only make yourself look foolish.
But, when it comes down to it, when something needs to get done in the
world, only the Americans can seem to get it done.
-c
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: KDE 2.1 oopsie!
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 01:06:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, mlw
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:55:33 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Pete Goodwin wrote:
>>
>> mlw wrote:
>>
>> >> I did what I said, and I got no errors.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe you're the one who's lying.
>> >>
>> >> If I'm lying, how come I using KDE 2.1 _right now_?
>> >
>> > Unless you explicitly removed the previous version of KDE you should not
>> > have been able to install the new version without a -U.
>> >
>> > How do you explain that?
>>
>> OK, I must have used rpm -U. My mistake.
>
>really now, just "rpm -U *.rpm"
>
>Again, that will not work without any warning messages either. You will get a
>few "xxx conflicts with...." warning messages. At least try what you claim to
>have done, before you post. Jeez.
Actually, I don't think that'll work at all, rpm -U requires
package names, not package filenames. One can do something silly
like
rpm -U `ls *.rpm | sed 's,\.rpm$,,'`
of course. (Disclaimer: I haven't tested this.)
[rest snipped]
--
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EAC code #191 43d:23h:37m actually running Linux.
Yes, uptime & wall clock aren't in synch; I don't know why.
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