Linux-Advocacy Digest #48, Volume #33 Fri, 23 Mar 01 20:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: An end to legacy hardware? (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux + PostgreSQL + Apache + JDBC + Tomcat JSP / Servlets: Ready for prime
time? ("Flacco")
LUG: Looking for speakers (William Kendrick)
Re: CLI vs GUI (GreyCloud)
Re: CLI vs GUI (Roberto Alsina)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Chad Myers")
Re: Indrema article in NextGen (William Kendrick)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Chad Myers")
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Chad Myers")
Re: What is user friendly? (GreyCloud)
Re: What is user friendly? (GreyCloud)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure (Roberto Alsina)
Re: What is user friendly? (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Peter
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Germany Denies Microsoft Ban (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (John S. Dyson)
Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor (mlw)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An end to legacy hardware?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:17:32 -0800
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:58:22 -0000...
> ...and Andy Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Lets face it, PC's are pieces of crap. They have so many legacy problems
> > such as interrupt configurations, memory and backwards compatability that
> > they belong in the 1980's if not the 70's.
>
> Nope. What's the problem with a decent, recent all-PCI, all-SCSI
> machine? The ugly stuff has gone away with ISA if you don't use DOS or
> anything based on it.
>
> IDE is, as far as I understand, messy, but no one makes you use it.
>
> mawa
> --
> Zweiundvierzig.
I wonder why the new Sun Blade 100 uses IDE interfaces for its hard
drive then?
I suppose it is done for economical uses and to keep the price down.
($950)
The SCSI is more superior to the IDE and performs better in a multi-user
environment, but more costly.
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.java.tech,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux + PostgreSQL + Apache + JDBC + Tomcat JSP / Servlets: Ready for
prime time?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:27:10 GMT
> Sounds like you are at the low end of wanting to contact the commercial
> vendors and see what they have to offer. Make sure you have a good
> business analysis in hand and don't let them talk you into changing your
> business to meet their software.
This is really a "proof of concept" project. I don't want the best
available commercial solution at this point - I want to validate that I can
develop a medium-scale application myself using (mostly) free software.
If I can do this, I can start thinking about investing more mind/time in the
free software platform, possibly drifting away from NT/IIS/MTS/VB.
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LUG: Looking for speakers
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:35:32 GMT
The Linux Users' Group of Davis, which holds meetings twice a month in
Davis, California (the home of UC Davis; near Sacramento), are always
looking for people or companies willing to do talks and demonstrations
at our meetings.
If you are in northern California (or can easily make it here), and would
like to present, please contact me:
Bill Kendrick
LUGOD Chairperson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Our meetings are held in the evening on the 1st Tuesday & 3rd Monday of
each month. LUGOD has approx. 175 official "members" and a typical
meeting attendance of between 25 and 50 people, depending on the topic and
time of year.
For details on... see...
LUGOD in General http://www.lugod.org/
How to get to our meetings http://www.lugod.org/meeting/zworld/
Our meeting facility's specs: http://www.lugod.org/meeting/facilities/
What meetings are booked: http://www.lugod.org/meeting/upcoming/
And if you're curious about... see...
The kinds of members we have http://www.lugod.org/members/
What topics we've had previously http://www.lugod.org/meeting/past/
What topics we'd LIKE to see http://www.lugod.org/meeting/wishlist/
Other things LUGOD does http://www.lugod.org/projects/
Thanks in advance!
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
Linux Users' Group of Davis
"Twice a month, and then some!"
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CLI vs GUI
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:29:22 -0800
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> > On 23 Mar 2001 16:43:41 -0500, Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Yes, they do. I find bash on NT to be VERY useful. Look at the Cygwin
> >>tools package, it's very handy.
> >
> > I just found an NT port of rxvt. Now I can have a fully resizeable
> > command window, what an innovation!
>
> But it doesn't do Tektronik graphics. How lame is that? ;-)
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
What good is Tektronix graphics without the Tek terminal??
Tek doesn't even sell them anymore.
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CLI vs GUI
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:31:29 -0300
GreyCloud wrote:
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> Bob Hauck wrote:
>>
>> > On 23 Mar 2001 16:43:41 -0500, Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Yes, they do. I find bash on NT to be VERY useful. Look at the Cygwin
>> >>tools package, it's very handy.
>> >
>> > I just found an NT port of rxvt. Now I can have a fully resizeable
>> > command window, what an innovation!
>>
>> But it doesn't do Tektronik graphics. How lame is that? ;-)
>>
>
> What good is Tektronix graphics without the Tek terminal??
> Tek doesn't even sell them anymore.
Some people just have no sense of humour, I guess.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:22:49 GMT
"Black Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:33:58 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Chad Myers' said:
>
> : "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> : > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : > >
> : > >"Roy Culley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> : > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> : > >> In article <0hnu6.9762$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> : > >> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : > >> >
> : > >> > Hmm, the funny thing is, AMD is grabbing Intel's share, but Linux has
> : > >> > yet to even touch Microsoft in any market they're in.
> : > >>
> : > >> Well Microsoft have all but lost the Internet server market.
> : > >
> : > >For "My Cat Fluffy" web sites, maybe. But there are now more NT/2K/SQL
> : > >hosting sites than ever, and MS still holds a majority market share
> : > >in the web server market in the Fortune 500 and major eBusiness
> : > >companies. In fact, Apache holds a very minor share in Fortune 500.
> : > >It's MS/IIS with about 57% last I saw and Netscape/IPlanet with
> : > >40-something% and Apache with >10% market share.
> : > >
> : >
> : > My cat fluffy could come up with better fantasy figures. For the
> : > truth you need to get with reality. Chad Meyers is lying. Here
> : > is the truth for you:
> : >
> : > Server February 2001 Percent Change
> : > -------------------------------------------
> : > Apache 16871744 59.99 1.24
> : > Microsoft-IIS 5522069 19.63 -1.76
> : > Netscape-Enterprise 1751123 6.23 -0.05
> : > WebLogic 1039605 3.70 0.06
> : > Zeus 801215 2.85 0.34
> : > Rapidsite 380217 1.35 0.00
> : > thttpd 367724 1.31 0.07
> : > tigershark 166465 0.59 0.04
> : > AOLserver 153296 0.55 0.09
> : > WebSitePro 114655 0.41 0.00
> :
> : Ah yes, Netcraft, the host of all that is misinformation.
> :
> : Keep in mind that Netcraft's numbers are a.) misrepresented
> : and b.) inaccurate.
> :
> : Netcraft counts each domain name as a seperate server.
> : So a hosting provider could potentially have thousands of
> : domains running on a few servers, each one counting as a
> : "server" which is inaccurate.
>
> Taking lessons from Funkenbush I see.
>
> Is IIS not capable of Virtual Hosting, or doing it very well?
Of course it is. It's just not the case that a majority
of IIS servers are virtual hosts, where it is with Apache.
A large percentage, indeed nearly all, IIS boxes are eCommerce
servers or run a corporate web site that makes money.
-c
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Indrema article in NextGen
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:38:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The latest issue (April 2001; to hit store shelves soon) of
: Next Generation magazine (aka "NextGen") has an 8 page special feature
: on the Indrema game console.
I've taken some photos of the slick new design of the Indrema L600
(mmm... chrome), and place them on my website:
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/indrema/gallery/
I apologize for the cruddy quality. I have yet to set up my scanner. :^/
-bill!
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:25:01 GMT
"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:43:51 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >> Like set-top boxes,
> >
> > Well, MS hasn't really ventured into this space. The closest they
> > have is WebTV which was an acquisition.
>
> Ah, that explains their multi-million dollar investment in AT&T and the
> subsequent announcement that AT&T were going to use WinCE in some fraction
> of their set-top boxes (which fraction kept getting reduced as time went on,
> BTW). It also explains the dust-up with TCI over Java in set-top boxes.
> MS has been after the set-top box market for years, you just haven't been
> paying attention.
>
> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
You have no facts to back this statement up.
> > I don't know about this, but Embedded NT and 2K seem to be doing
> > well.
>
> There is no "Embedded 2K" product.
Yes there is. It's not shipping yet, but it is in development
and is being tested by several 3rd parties. Just because you
don't know about it, Bob, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Please try pulling your head from the sand once in a while,
it helps.
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:27:37 GMT
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >For "My Cat Fluffy" web sites, maybe. But there are now more NT/2K/SQL
> >> >hosting sites than ever, and MS still holds a majority market share
> >> >in the web server market in the Fortune 500 and major eBusiness
> >> >companies. In fact, Apache holds a very minor share in Fortune 500.
> >> >It's MS/IIS with about 57% last I saw and Netscape/IPlanet with
> >> >40-something% and Apache with >10% market share.
> >> >
> >>
> >> My cat fluffy could come up with better fantasy figures. For the
> >> truth you need to get with reality. Chad Meyers is lying. Here
> >> is the truth for you:
> >>
> >> Server February 2001 Percent Change
> >> -------------------------------------------
> >> Apache 16871744 59.99 1.24
> >> Microsoft-IIS 5522069 19.63 -1.76
> >> Netscape-Enterprise 1751123 6.23 -0.05
> >> WebLogic 1039605 3.70 0.06
> >> Zeus 801215 2.85 0.34
> >> Rapidsite 380217 1.35 0.00
> >> thttpd 367724 1.31 0.07
> >> tigershark 166465 0.59 0.04
> >> AOLserver 153296 0.55 0.09
> >> WebSitePro 114655 0.41 0.00
> >
> >Netcraft counts each domain name as a seperate server.
> >So a hosting provider could potentially have thousands of
> >domains running on a few servers, each one counting as a
> >"server" which is inaccurate.
> >
> >Also, Netcraft doesn't differeniate between the popularity
> >or hit-rate of the server.
> >
> >If you correlate this data with other data from other
> >metric sites that measure eBusiness or top hits, you see
> >that Apache is nowhere to be found and IIS/Netscape rule
> >the day.
> >
>
> Pray tell...please give us those other metric sites and
> tell us the specifics on how the data is correlated.
<sigh> We've only gone through this like 30 times in
other threads. Please try to view one of those first.
I have posted several URLs documented the above claims.
Not the least of which is this one:
http://www.biznix.org/surveys/
You'll see that Apache doesn't show up much in the
business world.
A very tiny fraction of those Apache servers are Linux.
Many are Sun, Irix, or BSD.
-c
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:40:54 -0800
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On 23 Mar 2001 16:05:43 -0500, Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> >> > "Craig Oshima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:u%Yt6.63$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > > Oh, really. All workers need is M$-Office, and nothing more?
> >> > > > So...they access the various databases through what, exactly?
> >> > > > Do they go in with word-pad and edit the raw binary files?
> >
> >> > > Who says they need to access databases?
> >
> >> > FWIW, you can access 99% of the databases on the world from Access.
> >
> >> Ummm.... you need to refine this statement into a more meaningful way.
> >> 99% implies anybodies data base. On-line or corporate data bases are
> >> usually off-limits to the public. A list of data base types would be
> >> handy tho.
> >
> >It would be helpful if you had a useful definition of "database". A
> >list of names & numbers on a sheet of paper is a database. ;)
> >
>
> Main Entry: da.ta.base
> Pronunciation: 'dA-t&-"bAs, 'da- also 'dä-
> Function: noun
> Date: circa 1962
> : a usually large collection of data organized especially for rapid
> search and retrieval (as by a computer)
I should have been more specific... Replace "A list of data base types
would be handy tho." to "Which vendor specific data base engines can
Access access?"
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:42:29 -0800
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> Chad Everett wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:17:08 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Craig Oshima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>> news:u%Yt6.63$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>> > > Oh, really. All workers need is M$-Office, and nothing more?
> >>> > > So...they access the various databases through what, exactly?
> >>> > > Do they go in with word-pad and edit the raw binary files?
> >>> >
> >>> > Who says they need to access databases?
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, you can access 99% of the databases on the world from Access.
> >>
> >>Yeah, right.
> >>
> >>You're gonna get into Merril Lynche's Oracle and Informix databases
> >>with Access...
> >>
> >>By "access" do you mean "retrieve a raw datastream"
> >>
> >>In that case, I can "access" 100% of all databases with "cat"
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No, that would be "cat | more"
>
> I think he menas he can access the databases using Mr. Boots. His cat. You
> see, Mr. Boots is psychic...
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
LOL!!! I wonder if Mr. Boots is really CatBert the evil human
resources director?
--
V
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:51:24 -0300
Chad Myers wrote:
>> Pray tell...please give us those other metric sites and
>> tell us the specifics on how the data is correlated.
>
> <sigh> We've only gone through this like 30 times in
> other threads. Please try to view one of those first.
> I have posted several URLs documented the above claims.
>
> Not the least of which is this one:
> http://www.biznix.org/surveys/
>
> You'll see that Apache doesn't show up much in the
> business world.
>
> A very tiny fraction of those Apache servers are Linux.
> Many are Sun, Irix, or BSD.
That survey simply shows that large companies use IIS more than apache.
However, just because a company is big, that doesn't mean their site is big:
Wal mart is number 2, but I doubt anyone ever visits their site at
www.walmart.com?
That's an example of a IIS running site. However graphics.walmart.com is
running Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2 on HP-UX.
I have no idea if graphics.walmart.com does anything at all, but it *is*
there.
A more interesting survey would be, for example, of the 1000 highest
traffic sites. With a careful study of each, not just connecting and
checking.
Perhaps even ASKING ;-)
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:53:39 -0300
GreyCloud wrote:
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> Chad Everett wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:17:08 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>In that case, I can "access" 100% of all databases with "cat"
>> >
>> > No, that would be "cat | more"
>>
>> I think he means he can access the databases using Mr. Boots. His cat.
>> You see, Mr. Boots is psychic...
>>
> LOL!!! I wonder if Mr. Boots is really CatBert the evil human
> resources director?
According to another post by the Kulkis, I now believe mister boots to own
certain OSs, called "fluffy cat OSs". More news about that coming soon, I'm
sure.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:13:02 +0100
peter wrote:
> I've heard great things about the new Suse distro., but I was told by
> someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work. At work
> we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
>
> What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
>
> Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
>
> Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
>
> Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
>
>
SuSE 7.1 is good.
But if you have to do anything at all with the setup at work, stay with
RedHat. The differences are quite small, though. Mainly in setup-tools.
Peter
--
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Germany Denies Microsoft Ban
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:28:09 +0100
Aaron Ginn wrote:
> "Jon Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "Aaron Ginn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > "Jon Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> > > Wow - you know you've hit a nerve whenever someone thinks you are
>> someone
>> > > else they hate so much (I would assume). sheesh...
>> >
>> >
>> > I certainly don't hate Drestin or you for that matter. You have
>> > every
>> > right to the opinions you hold. Unfortunately, they are largely
>> > uninformed ones.
>>
>> I disagree, of course. I document my claims. Ask me about something you
>> disbelieve and I'll document it.
>
> I disbelieve this:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=solaris+author:jan+author:johanson&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=relevance&as_drrb=quick&as_qdr=&as_mind=15&as_minm=8&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=20&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2001&rnum=6&seld=936114375&ic=1
>
> I don't believe you have ever used Solaris, and if you have I don't
> believe it was "crashing all the time". Either you are lying or you
> are simply not competent enough to administer UNIX.
>
> Either way this post demonstrates that you have little or no
> experience with UNIX and are thus not qualified to commnent on it.
> I can't stop you from commenting on it, but I can safely ignore most
> of what you say about it.
>
Well, and then the obnoxious "Add google..." "All about google".
Jon, did you know that google is one of the largest linux-sites there
is in this universe? You should start at once to convert them to IIS,
as that is the way to go (and so much more safe / fast / you name it)
Peter
--
A blue screen is nothing to worry about,
just press [CTRL]+[ALT]+[DEL] and format c:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:07:34 GMT
On 23 Mar 2001 21:06:46 +0200, -kn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>.-
>| On 22 Mar 2001 20:18:53 GMT, Steve Mading
>| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|
><...>
>| are SERIOUSLY WEIRD. It is clear that a similar situation exists with the
>`
>
>so much text just for an ad hominem attack combined with an appeal to
>authority. oh well.
>
>when it all comes down to use and practice, gpl-ed code is, in a reasonable
>context, free. under certain circonstances, the gpl comes in the way and
>encumber the developement and reuse of parts of code. in those cases, a
>compromise must be found. dealing with freedom often means having
>responsabilities, it is kind of sad the freedom you "gpl software is
>not free software" guys seems to refer to is that of the animal in the
>wild. very attractive, but in any cases no absolute freedom at all.
>
Of course, what you say isn't true. Note that free software (like the
BSDL, which some claim isn't free), doesn't cause any sort of chaos
that you imply.
In fact, free software is a basis for alot of the 'internet' that we
all know and love today. It is the basis for alot of commercial
software, and other free software.
The narrow, little, selfish people who are afraid of other peoples
success need to express some sort of paranoid control. That is
certainly their right, but calling such limited software 'free' (GPL)
is certainly a lie.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Date: 24 Mar 2001 01:02:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month
>
>You're forgetting about the Win2K mouse cursor drop-shadow.
I don't think that's a new idea. I seem to recall trying a GWM (old window
manager) theme that offered a big triangular mouse pointer with a pattern
imitating a drop-shadow.
--
Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
Colony name not needed in address.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New worm infests Linux machines/Exposes root backdoor
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:10:13 -0500
Jon Johanson wrote:
>
[old news snipped]
Old news dude, a patch has been out for a while.
Secondly, there is a big difference between exploiting a bug to do damage vs
exploiting a badly designed OS and e-mail system to do damage.
Windows (and 2K) is such a system.
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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