Linux-Advocacy Digest #281, Volume #33 Mon, 2 Apr 01 12:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure (Bob Hauck)
New virus attacks Linux and MS OS (Josie)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: NT multitasking: some humiliating defeats! :) (Chronos Tachyon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:53:18 GMT
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 02:24:14 GMT, Chad Myers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> How is the Palm's Internet capability "hacked together"? Please be
>> specific, because I think you are making stuff up again.
>
> Well, for one, it's an after thought. It seems that the only apps
> that are internet aware are third party ones which each have their
> own interface.
It was such an afterthought that they put an IP stack and PPP dialer
into the OS. What you are complaining about is really that Palm hasn't
tried to put all their third-party vendors out of business. You
wouldn't know a "hack" if one bit you on the ass.
>PocketPC, OTOH, seems to have Internet pervasive just like Windows
>where every app uses a common Internet access method and many apps
>are integrated with Internet Explorer.
So, just like Windows, you can get viruses by viewing email in the
preview pane (see this week's BugTraq)? Wonderful.
>> What about battery life? If you don't think that is important, I would
>> have to say you probably haven't tried to actually use a PDA in real life.
>
> Well, if all I need is very, very basic PDA functionality (calendar,
> todo, and contacts) I'll use my phone which has about the same
> functionality as a Palm device and it has a built in cell phone!
I see. You don't actually use a PDA and are just making things up
because you love Microsoft so much.
In real life, people do use PDA's as "overpriced rolodexes". They use
them to take notes, do some simple figures, jot down contact info, and
play games while waiting for a plane. They don't sit and spend hours
building a presentation or doing spreadheets. The lack of a keyboard is
too much of a hindrance (except maybe for gadget freaks).
The advantage over a paper day-timer is that the PDA is smaller and
lighter, and it can transfer data to and from a PC. My PDA basically
replaced the paper day-timer and two calculators that I used to carry.
> When I want a true hand-held computer with almost full desktop
> functionality in my hand, I'll choose PocketPC.
If I want a portable computer with almost full desktop functionality,
I'll take my laptop along. Hell, if I'm going to be chained to a power
outlet at least I should get a keyboard.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: Josie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New virus attacks Linux and MS OS
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:52:49 GMT
Hey, I read over the weekend about a new virus that can get at MS AND Linux.
It doesn't sound like it is too potent, but I thought it was pretty interesting.
http://linux.ittoolbox.com/browse.asp?c=LINUXNews&r=%2Fnews%2Fdispnews%2Easp%3Fi%3D36841
Has anybody else heard anything about it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:00:00 GMT
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Scott Erb wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Spot the character assassination.
>
>
>First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>very very very clear that I am utterly opposed to all forms of socialism,
>as that is merely a trendy word for government-mandated slavery.
>
>
>
>> bravado. Apparently the guy does not like being shown that he is wrong
>> in his world view -- a view which seems based on his own whims, never
>
>No...what I don't like are closet-wannabe-dictators like you, who piss
>on the Constitution, promote worker-enslaving taxation schemes, and then
>want to parade around as if you are some sort of liberator.
>
sorry fools liberals support progressive taxation.
>
>
>> supported or substantiated in any way. He did prove to me in this post
>> that he isn't worth being taken seriously. It takes all kinds, I
>> guess.
>
>Fortunately, the vast majority of those who keep and issue the automatic
>weapons in this country agree with me.
>
>heheheheheh
and we'll be coming for that illegal gun.
>
>Have fun when you get your gun-control laws passed, and discover that
>the people sent out to your house to search for them....all think like me.
>
>Talk about poetic fucking justice.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Mathew wrote:
>> >
>> > For a person who constantly calls people"little dictators"
>> > and "fascists" , Aaron certainky takes the cake for personifying
>> > his own words.
>> >
>> > A product of fascist military indoctrination ,no doubt.
>> >
>> > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> >
>> > > Scott Erb wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Scott Erb wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > This is why Democracy is *ILLEGAL* at the Federal and State level.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > What on earth do you mean?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You didn't pay attention in your civics class, did you?
>> > > > > Either that, or your teacher was some leftist tool.
>> > > >
>> > > > Your response is argumentum ad hominem, and thus a fallacy. Anyway,
>> > > > I've got a Ph.D. in Political Science, so I obviously have studied quite
>> > > > a bit about political systems.
>> > >
>> > > That must be why you are so full of propaganda, and yet miss
>> > > things that are completely fucking obvious to 4-year olds,
>> > > such as your ridiculous assertion that races don't exist.
>> > >
>> > > To be a fully brainwashed liberal parasite, a PhD is an absolute
>> > > necessity...and something as utterly WORTHLESS and non-testable
>> > > as Political Science is a bonus for establishing your credentials
>> > > as a true-believer.
>> > >
>> > > Tell us...if you studied Political SCIENCE...tell us of all
>> > > the repeatable, verifiable experiments which you perform?
>> > >
>> > > After all, that *IS* a necessary pre-requisite for something
>> > > to be a science.
>> > >
>> > > No....no...you didn't study Political *Science*...not at all.
>> > >
>> > > You studied Political PROPAGANDA METHODOLOGY.
>> > >
>> > > Fortunately, you are easily defeated by anybody who is half-way
>> > > observant of history and the world around him.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > You do know, don't know, that a Republic can be democratic?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > That's a contradiction in terms.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > DEMO-CRACY literally equals "government by the people"
>> > > >
>> > > > As I explained, a Democratic Republic is NOT a pure democracy where
>> > > > majority rules, but a democratic system that is limited by certain
>> > > > rules, in our case, a constitution.
>> > >
>> > > FUCK YOU and your LYING PROPAGANDA SPEWING ASS.
>> > >
>> > > There is no "democratic" about it. We are a Republic. More
>> > > specifically, we are a CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED REPUBLIC.
>> > >
>> > > NOWHERE in *ANY* government laws and sort of democratic *anything*
>> > > allowed at the State or Federal level.
>> > >
>> > > If you want to run a town, or even a county, as a democracy, you
>> > > are fully within your rights to do so.
>> > >
>> > > But the US Constitution, the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, specificies
>> > > in UNMISTAKABLE language the the United States is a Republic.
>> > >
>> > > Not a "democratic republic"....just a Republic.
>> > >
>> > > Popular election of Representatives and Senators does *NOT*
>> > > a democracy make, nor a Democratic Republic make, so you and
>> > > your PROPAGANDA NOISE about the US being a "democratic Republic"
>> > > can go take a flying fucking leap off a cliff.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you look at the Constitution, it is quite clear that "the people"
>> > > > > are specifically PROHIBITED from governing the nation....that is
>> > > > > left to the Senate and the House of Representatives....that is,
>> > > > > a REPUBLIC (governance by representatives)
>> > > >
>> > > > That is called representative democracy.
>> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Wrong. The United Kingdom is a Representative Democracy.
>> > > However, *WE* do not have a parliamentary system, therefore,
>> > > we are not a Representative Democracy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > By the way, it's best not to contradict yourself within a
>> > > mere one paragraph of your previous statement.
>> > >
>> > > To wit, you previously said that the United States is a "democratic
>> > > republic", and *NOW* you said that it is a "representative
>> > > democracy".
>> > >
>> > > Well, which is it? A Democracy by Representation, or a
>> > > Republic by Democracy?
>> > >
>> > > It can't be BOTH ways.
>> > >
>> > > Therefore, I have now demonstrated, by your own definitions,
>> > > that you lied at least once.
>> > >
>> > > Of course...the real truth is that you lied twice. Every time
>> > > you try to weasel in the word "democracy" to describe our system
>> > > of government, your are LYING.
>> > >
>> > > Remember, Asshole, several MILLION American took an oath to defend
>> > > the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES against *ALL* enemies, both
>> > > foreign and domestic.
>> > >
>> > > People like you, claiming to have a PhD in Political Science, who
>> > > then go around telling lies like such as above, qualify, in no
>> > > uncertain terms, as ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION.
>> > >
>> > > Make no doubt about it.
>> > >
>> > > Some day...when they you're lined up against the wall, and you
>> > > feel the hot, searing pain of bullets ripping through your body,
>> > > literally turning the very cells around the entry wound into
>> > > a worthless pool of slime in the wound cavity....just remember,
>> > > that I warned you.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Oh..and if you think that you should call the government to
>> > > come get me...guess what, asshole....I *AM* the government.
>> > >
>> > > Not only that, but *YOUR* *TAX* *DOLLARS* go to express purpose
>> > > of training MILLIONS of people just like me, to kill closet-dictator
>> > > assholes just like you.
>> > >
>> > > Just remember that the next time you advocate the idea that
>> > > individual rights are unnecessary because you can trust the
>> > > government to do the right thing.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > People choose their
>> > > > representatives, and can hold them accountable at election time. The
>> > > > most pure system of representative democracy is the British system,
>> > > > which is a parliamentary unitary system (not a Presidential federal
>> > > > system).
>> > >
>> > > The United States is NOT a parliamentary system. Therefore,
>> > > the premise of your argument is false...which makes the rest
>> > > of your argument null and void.
>> > >
>> > > For a PhD in Political Science, how come you're getting your ass
>> > > REAMED by an engineer who never even fulfilled the necessary
>> > > humanities requirements for a degree?
>> > >
>> > > If I were you, I'd go back to whatever community college you got
>> > > your PhD from and demand a fucking refund, because, whatever they
>> > > taught you in class, it's quite obvious that you didn't learn jack
>> > > shit about the real world (other than how to lie).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -snip-
>> > > >
>> > > > > > sets certain rules and procedures within which the democratic aspects of
>> > > > > > the system function. The term "Liberal Democracy" (used to describe the
>> > > > > > US and many European states) means a Democratic Republic limited by
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The us is NOT a democracy of any type. Whoever told you that the US is
>> > > > > a "Liberal Democracy" is either ignorant of what the term means, or
>> > > > > filling your head with propaganda. Likewise for Europe. In fact,
>> > > >
>> > > > Alas, you're the one totally out of step with all theory and scholarship
>> > > > on this issue, as well the history of the US.
>> > >
>> > > Said "Scholarship" being the work of your fellow leftist closet-dictators.
>> > >
>> > > Oh no, you, and they, *certainly* don't have an axe to grind...other
>> > > than the fact that you got picked on in high school, and now you're
>> > > looking for revenge...and the best way YOU can think of is to set
>> > > up a form of government where you can micromanage their lives.
>> > >
>> > > Well, fortunately, because leftist assholes like you refuse to serve in
>> > > the military...guess what....All the people who actually HAVE THE GUNS...
>> > > ..you know..the MILITARY GRADE GUNS....the ones with the KEYS TO
>> > > THE ARMS ROOMS IN THE ARMORIES...and the KEYS TO THE AMMUNITION
>> > > STORAGE POINTS....guess what...***ALL*** of those people are the very
>> > > same people who's political views you despise.
>> > >
>> > > The police, the army, the FBI, the CIA...leftist assholes like you
>> > > all shirk your responsibilities as a citizen, to do your part to
>> > > serve in these organizations...don't you.
>> > >
>> > > Therefore...here's a fucking thought that should help you sleep
>> > > soundly...
>> > >
>> > > Those people who's political views you abhor:
>> > >
>> > > THEY're the ones who patrol your streets
>> > > THEY're the ones who have the civil disturbance training.
>> > > THEY're the ones who run the military
>> > > THEY're the ones who fly the air force's combat aircraft
>> > > THEY're the ones who crew the tanks
>> > > THEY're the ones who man the cannons
>> > > THEY're the ones who carry the rifles, machine guns, grenade
>> > > launchers, and all of the other parafarnelia of
>> > > the infantryman
>> > >
>> > > so DON'T FUCK WITH THEM, because THEY ARE THE ONES WHO STAND
>> > > GUARD WHILE YOU SLEEP!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > I know of *NO* nation on the face of the earth which is a democracy.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you look at any text (I'd recommend Hauss' Comparative Politics, or
>> > > > Juerg Steiner's "European Democracies"), you'd see that all what are
>> > > > called "democracies" today are Republics of some sort, save perhaps
>> > > > Great Britain whose link to the Monarchy gives it a different kind of
>> > > > rationale (though it still functions practically as a democracy, albeit
>> > > > not limited by a written constitution but agreements between Parliament
>> > > > and the Crown, and precident).
>> > > >
>> > > > No government is a "pure democracy" of majority rule with no limits.
>> > >
>> > > Really? Are you absolutely sure?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > That is obvious.
>> > >
>> > > No, it is not obvious at all.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > > liberal principles (a right to life, liberty, and property, with a focus
>> > > > > > on individual freedoms, harkening back to philosophers like Locke, it is
>> > > > > > distrustful of a strong central government).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > None of which has to do with Democracy.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Respect for human rights is not democracy. In fact, Democracy is
>> > > > > particularly DANGEROUS to human rights. Ever hear of the term
>> > > > > "the Tyranny of the Majority" If "the majority" of easily confused
>> > > > > and swayed citizens can be rallied to violate your human rights, then
>> > > > > exactly how does a democracy connote human rights.
>> > > >
>> > > > All that is why we have Democratic Republics. That is what the general
>> > > > term "democracy" means in current usage. If you're attacking crude pure
>> > > > democracy you're just attacking a straw man, your argument has no
>> > > > relevance to issues at hand today.
>> > >
>> > > You insist on insertin the word Democracy without showing me ANY
>> > > citations that give you a basis for such a claim.
>> > >
>> > > The United States constitution specifically spells out the word
>> > > REPUBLIC. The word "Democracy" isn't even mentioned. In fact,
>> > > up until the 1930's, the U.S. Army Basic Training handbook, which
>> > > is given to each soldier, specifically stated that not only is
>> > > the United Staes ***NOT*** a democracy, but also (truthfully,
>> > > I might note), that democracy is the greatest threat to the
>> > > protection of human rights.
>> > >
>> > > Democracy is the last step before dictatorship.
>> > >
>> > > Ask the Russians.
>> > > Ask the Germans.
>> > >
>> > > They know.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Fortunately, the final protector of the human rights affirmed in the
>> > > > > Constitution is the 2nd Amendment (Unconditional right to keep and
>> > > > > bear arms) which gives teeth to all of the others.
>> > > >
>> > > > Of course, a fat lot of good that will do you if you try to claim the US
>> > > > government is illegitimate and try to ignore it. The government can
>> > > > outescalate you every step of the way.
>> > > > cheers, scott
>> > >
>> > > Clue for the clueless...I ***AM*** the government, you asshole.
>> > >
>> > > Specifically, I am part of the very force that you saw will be
>> > > "sent to get me"....in fact....I would say that 90% or more of
>> > > the infantrymen,...the guys who you think will be "sent out to
>> > > get me"....believe the same things as what I stated above.
>> > >
>> > > Putting PhD behind your name doesnt change the fact that we all
>> > > know that you're lying out your ass....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
>> > > Unix Systems Engineer
>
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT multitasking: some humiliating defeats! :)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:00:05 GMT
On Mon 02 Apr 2001 06:45, Ayende Rahien wrote:
[Snip]
>
> PKUnzip is an *old* utility, which is almost totally replaced by windows
> comression programs, but what the hell, let's do it, okay?
> ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/arcers/pk250dos.exe
[Snip]
I hate to break it to you, but PKZip 2.50 is actually a Win32 console
application, not a real 16-bit DOS application. The last version of PKZip
for pure DOS was 2.04g.
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
[Reply instructions: My real domain is "echo <address> | cut -d. -f6,7"]
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