Linux-Advocacy Digest #396, Volume #33 Thu, 5 Apr 01 15:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (Lex Spoon)
Re: Baseball (Brock Hannibal)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Too expensive, too invasive (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Too expensive, too invasive (Chad Everett)
Re: Entry-level *ix positions?? (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Michael
Eglestone)
Re: Entry-level *ix positions?? (WesTralia)
Re: Too expensive, too invasive (Chronos Tachyon)
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From: Lex Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Date: 05 Apr 2001 14:15:34 -0400
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [snips]
>
> "Steve Bellenot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9ai2fv$f1b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >
> > IMHO anyone who reads mail with a variable-width font shows a remarkable
> > lack of understanding.
>
> Now why would that be? Some of us happen to find variable-width fonts
> easier to read; you're saying that making computing easier and more pleasant
> is a lack of understanding? What a bizarre position.
>
> Now it's true you can't, say, read someone's nicely-aligned columnar text
> which they developed with a fixed font, if you're reading with a variable
> font, but that, if anything, suggests that there are probably better ways to
> produce documents containing layout information, ways that don't require
> that the recipient happen to use your particular choice of font type. HTML
> is one answer, although its layout capabilities may be less than ideal for
> many uses. PDF is another. I'm sure there are more.
None of the alternatives you suggest is as portable or as easy to
obtain as "use a fixed-width font". PDF is certainly nice and
portable, but it's not *as* portable, and it's not as easy to obtain.
If you read Internet messages with a variable width font, you'll find
life a lot easier if you at least figure out how to switch to a
fixed-width font at need. Also, it *is* a lack of judgement on the
part of software *writers* to make variable width fonts the default,
because not all users will know how to change it. Not all users will
even realize what is going on.
-Lex
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:20:06 -0700
From: Brock Hannibal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Baseball
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Anonymous wrote:
> aaron wrote:
> > Anonymous wrote:
> > >
> > > "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Maybe Microsoft will go the full monty and deliver a stable OS for once?
> > >
> > > why don't you do something to make unix as easy to use as windows while
> > > retaining the former's stability and put microsoft out of business?
> >
> > It's been so for well over a DECADE, jackie.
>
> so you're saying that in 1991 there was a unix system as easy to use as
> windows is today?
> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
Actually the reason I use Unix is that I have a computer on my desk that
is way more powerful in a number of dimensions than any PC I can buy.
It's a 64-bit machine running a 64-bit operating system. It doesn't have
file size limits and runs compute and memory intensive applications that
simply aren't available in Windows systems. It has an easy to use
interface called Common Desktop Environment. I also have a Windows box
on my desk that is useful for email and word processing, that's about
all it's good for. Oh, I forgot, if you like spreadshhets and scheduling
software the Windows PC is alright. The constant application crashing
under Windows keeps my managers busy and out of my hair.
--
Brock
"One thing counts in this life: Get them to sign
on the line which is dotted...A. Always. B. Be.
C. Closing. Always Be Closing."
http://www.swingout.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:23:19 GMT
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:39:20 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sliverdick wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:43:18 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Raoul Duke*** wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:54:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Gunner ©" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:01:02 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I wonder how Scott Erb would feel if he gets his wish of an all-powerful
>> >> >> >> government, and along the way, he gets carted off to some gulag....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >It would be poetic justice.
>> >> >> >It is not that Erb is ignorant, he is very dishonest. And to think he is
>> >> >> >teaching this to his students.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HE"S a TEACHER? Lord love a duck. No wonder the SAT scores are being
>> >> >> lowered. No wonder the educational system in this country is floundering
>> >> >> and turning out kids who cannot read, nor think, nor function.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Scott would be a poster child for home schooling.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Home-school your kid...or else he might turn out to be like Scott Erb.
>> >>
>> >> Home school your kid. He will make a great shoe shine boy in a
>> >> Chinese suburb.
>> >
>> >Colleges across the nation are reporting that home-schooled kids
>> >tend to be MUCH better students than public-schooled kids.
>>
>> bullshit
>
>And yet, it's true
no it is not true idiot
>
>>
>> >
>> >Why is that?
>>
>> because its another fucking right wing lie.
>>
>
>So says the sliverdick. Fortunately, facts are at hand.
>
>
>http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_3_an_a_for_home.html
>
right wing trash literature proves nothing except that yer an empty
headed idiot.
>....
>This year, home-schooled kids swept the top three places on the
>National Spelling Bee, and Stanford accepted 27 percent of its
>home-schooled applicants, nearly twice its average acceptance rate.
spelling bees is not eductation they only allow for rote memorization.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Small wonder that the public school establishment wants to regulate
>home schooling out of existence. It represents a silent, but
>eloquent, reproach to the professionals.
>
bullshit, it represent a step back to the 1600s
>....
>
>
>Sabrina and Gary Matteson's story of their son Myles's public
>school woes is typical. Several years back, Myles, bored crazy
>with third grade at the New Hampshire public school he attended,
>begged his parents to let him stay home and read more challenging
>books—"a request from a kid that a parent shouldn't simply ignore,"
>says Sabrina. When the Mattesons informed the school principal
>that they were going to home school their son, the honest
>administrator couldn't blame them. "He told us that they had to
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
more right wing trash bullshit
the rest of the idiot's trash snipped mercifully
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Too expensive, too invasive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 2001 13:16:27 -0500
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:15:28 -0700, 667 Neighbor of the Beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Everett wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:26:57 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>> >Oddly enough, and I still haven't figured out quite why, but there are a
>> >number of sites which don't seem to render _at all_ using NS4.6 under Linux,
>> >but happily render with NS4 under Windows, and also render quite happily
>> >with other browsers (IE, konqueror, opera, etc.)
>
>What is Konqueror?
>>
>> You should probably upgrade to at least 4.76 though.
>
>4.75 is just fine. Actually, the Netscape group recommended that I
>not go to .76.
>--
>Bob
May I ask when and they this recommendation was made?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:27:18 GMT
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:42:18 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>silverback wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:36:49 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:10:59 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Scott D. Erb" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I wonder how Scott Erb would feel if he gets his wish of an all-powerful
>> >> >> > government, and along the way, he gets carted off to some gulag....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Given that I oppose powerful government and in fact my biggest criticism of
>the
>> >> >> Left is that it too often ignores the danger of centralized power, your
>question
>> >> >> is based on a false premise. Since I've made my aversion to powerful
>government
>> >> >> clear earlier in this thread, I have to assume that you are also being
>dishonest
>> >> >> in making the statement you make.
>> >> >
>> >> >Tell us how you propose to steal even more from the productive for the
>> >> >benefit of the lazy and other parasites without more centralized power.
>> >>
>> >> progressive taxation is not stealing anything from what you want to
>> >> call productive people.
>> >
>> >Ok...let's say, you go to the store...and the grocer asks you how
>> >much you make....and charges you for food according to how much you
>> >make.
>> >
>> >Lets say, you get a new job, which pays you double what your previous
>> >job pays....and so, the grocer says, "Ah, you are a lucky man. Now,
>> >I charge yout TRIPLE for groceries"
>>
>> the payment to the grocer is not taxation you dumb fuckwit.
>
>Very good. That would be taxes for services.
no
>
>But progressive income taxes are NOT taxes for services.
yes they are moron. The rich obtain more benefits from the government
than the poor. Maybe we should tax you for police protection on the
dollar value of yer holdings instead.
Same for fire protection. Same for the use of roads.
>
>
>
>> The rich should pay a far greater % of their income to taxes than the
>> poor. The poor should be exempt from all taxation.
>
>So, you're saying that taxes should be used as an wealth transfer
>mechanism, from the productive, to the parasites.
Anyone with an income over a million should be taxed at 95% of any
income over that no exemptions at all.
Those making less than a livable wage should not be taxed at all and
should recieve a kicker to bring their income up to a livable level.
>
>And this is different from theft from the productive for the
>parasites, how, exactly?
there is no theft moron. Shut the fuck up and pay yer taxes or get the
fuck out. This country doesn't need yer kind.
>
>>
>> >
>> >Except with taxes, you don't have a choice of going to a different
>> >grocer. Taxes are taken under threat of violence or imprisonment,
>> >which is to say, it is an extortion racket.
>> >
>> >Extortion is theft. And theft is slavery by indirect means.
>> >
>> >Which explains exactly why you are so such sadistic personality
>> >traits...because only a sadist wishes to enslave his neighbors.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Saying that you oppose centralized power, while supporting every policy
>> >> >which requires it is....disingenious.
>> >> >
>> >> >Either that, or you're a fucking dumbass.
>> >> >
>> >> >Which is it, Scott?
>> >> >
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Too expensive, too invasive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 2001 13:17:54 -0500
On 5 Apr 2001 13:16:27 -0500, Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:15:28 -0700, 667 Neighbor of the Beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Chad Everett wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:26:57 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>>> >Oddly enough, and I still haven't figured out quite why, but there are a
>>> >number of sites which don't seem to render _at all_ using NS4.6 under Linux,
>>> >but happily render with NS4 under Windows, and also render quite happily
>>> >with other browsers (IE, konqueror, opera, etc.)
>>
>>What is Konqueror?
>>>
>>> You should probably upgrade to at least 4.76 though.
>>
>>4.75 is just fine. Actually, the Netscape group recommended that I
>>not go to .76.
>>--
>>Bob
>
>May I ask when and they this recommendation was made?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
should be: when and why
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Entry-level *ix positions??
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:20:56 +0200
WesTralia wrote:
>
> And once you get your UNIX network all setup be sure to change the
> X-Mailer header string in your news reader. This will give you firewall
> like security if you ever surf the net from your new network. Also,
> once you get your UNIX sys admin job, remember to never use the web
> browser on the local machine at work. Always use a modem to dial-up
> your (remote) home machine and then do a remote login. Once you
> are logged in you can pull up your web browser across the slow modem
> connection from the remote machine to your local machine at work.
> The reason you wnat to do this is for security! Remember that your
> news reader at home has the X-Mailer string changed so as to provide
> you with security when surfing the net.
>
> Are you getting any of this?
>
Naturally you aren´t referring to our beloved war-hero, Unix System
administrator and god knows what else Aaron, aren´t you.
He is, after all, also *the* capacity on network security here.
And he works as crashtest dummy for GM.
Peter
--
The social dynamics of the net are a direct consequence of the fact
that nobody has yet developed a Remote Strangulation Protocol.
Larry Wall
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From: Michael Eglestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 02:44:09 -0400
> silverback wrote:
>
> yes they are moron. The rich obtain more benefits from the government
> than the poor. Maybe we should tax you for police protection on the
> dollar value of yer holdings instead.
=============================================
GDY hates rich people because he has never had any money and (at his
age) is never likely to get much worth mentioning.
His continuous bitching and complaining is straight forward, simple,
jealousy - Not really that difficult to understand!
Best to dismiss his whining for what it is; we all DO have better
things to do with our time!
---
Mike Eglestone (Democrat) (NRA - GOA)
Senior Master Sergeant (E-8)
United States Air Force, Retired
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From: WesTralia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Entry-level *ix positions??
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:48:21 -0500
Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
> WesTralia wrote:
> >
> > And once you get your UNIX network all setup be sure to change the
> > X-Mailer header string in your news reader. This will give you firewall
> > like security if you ever surf the net from your new network. Also,
> > once you get your UNIX sys admin job, remember to never use the web
> > browser on the local machine at work. Always use a modem to dial-up
> > your (remote) home machine and then do a remote login. Once you
> > are logged in you can pull up your web browser across the slow modem
> > connection from the remote machine to your local machine at work.
> > The reason you wnat to do this is for security! Remember that your
> > news reader at home has the X-Mailer string changed so as to provide
> > you with security when surfing the net.
> >
> > Are you getting any of this?
> >
>
> Naturally you aren´t referring to our beloved war-hero, Unix System
> administrator and god knows what else Aaron, aren´t you.
> He is, after all, also *the* capacity on network security here.
>
> And he works as crashtest dummy for GM.
>
Actually, I was referring to the dork who wears a plastic army helmet
while banging out posts to news groups from his Wintendo98 box down
in his mom's basement. But yes, I do believe that we are talking about
the same person.
--
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Too expensive, too invasive
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:03:47 GMT
On Thu 05 Apr 2001 01:15, 667 Neighbor of the Beast wrote:
> Chad Everett wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:26:57 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >Oddly enough, and I still haven't figured out quite why, but there are a
>> >number of sites which don't seem to render _at all_ using NS4.6 under
>> >Linux, but happily render with NS4 under Windows, and also render quite
>> >happily with other browsers (IE, konqueror, opera, etc.)
>
> What is Konqueror?
Konqueror is the web browser that comes with KDE. In KDE 1.x, Konqueror
was little more than a file manager that happened to be able to have a
grasp of HTML rendering slightly more advanced than lynx. However, modern
Konqueror is actually a real contender as a replacement for Netscape 4.x
under Linux. They finally fixed some irritating 2.0 UI bugs in KDE 2.1,
and the Javascript support has been progressing steadily with each version.
I use it as my primary browser these days, since it is much faster than
Mozilla yet has almost Mozilla-level support of HTML 4.0, CSS 2, Java, and
Javascript.
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
[Reply instructions: My real domain is "echo <address> | cut -d. -f6,7"]
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