Linux-Advocacy Digest #543, Volume #33 Thu, 12 Apr 01 12:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows in space...... ("tony roth")
Re: Communism - Nazism... no significant differences (Mathew)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux.org, gnome.org and linux.com ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Rob
Robertson)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (hack)
Re: New virus attacks Linux and MS OS (Chad Everett)
Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal (Craig Kelley)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:20:33 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Brent R wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > MH wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > (The following are the editorial opinions of the author, no more, no
> > > > > less)
> > > > >
> > > > > It was good to see the DOW go back above 10000 yesterday, but there
> > > > > are lingering doubts about whether the bear market is over.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which has many people asking, what happened to the optimism of the 90's?
> > > >
> > > > Saturation and the laws of diminishing returns.
> > > >
> > > > > Where is that spirit of unbridled optimism that fueled so many years of
> > > > > steady growth.
> > > >
> > > > It has been replaced with skepticism and malaise.
> > > >
> > > > > The author would like to advance a pet theory. It's all Microsoft's
> > > > > fault.
> > > >
> > > > Interersting concept, albiet all too common.
> > > >
> > > > > For the past decade, there has been a bubble of investment spending,
> > > > > which
> > > > > has produced high profits and further investment, all based upon a
> > > > > single phenomenon:
> > > > > Moore's Law. The principle that says that computers will go twice as
> > > > > fast every 18 months.
> > > >
> > > > I believe simple greed would suffice as a more accurate and plausible
> > > > explanation of the phenomenon you allude to.
> > > >
> > > > [history lesson snipped]
> > > >
> > > > > And every year or so a new type of microprocessor would be released with
> > > > > even more
> > > > > power. And not coincidentally, a new version of the Windows OS would be
> > > > > released,
> > > > > which added features at the expense of using more CPU resources. So
> > > > > everyone had
> > > > > to spend a bunch of new capital on upgrades, which started the virtuous
> > > > > cycle all over again.
> > > >
> > > > Define 'everyone'. Many organizations have not upgraded beyond windows 95 or
> > > > 98.
> > > >
> > > > > But now the cycle seems to be breaking, and the blame, for this author,
> > > > > rests squarely on
> > > > > Microsoft. They seem to have hit the wall, to have run out of ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Solely?
> > > >
> > > > > It has been three years since Windows 98 now, and Microsoft is working
> > > > > on their fourth attempt
> > > > > at a replacement OS (Windows SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000, and now Win
> > > > > XP), but
> > > > > most desktops are still running good old Win 98. Why? Because there are
> > > > > no features in the new
> > > > > OS's that are interesting enough to be worth the pain and expense of an
> > > > > upgrade.
> > > >
> > > > I'll agree for the most part with this.
> > > >
> > > > > When the internet began to take off there was an opportunity for
> > > > > Microsoft to become
> > > > > its champion. However instead MS appears to have seen the internet as a
> > > > > threat to its desktop
> > > > > based computing empire, and it attempted to smother the baby. First (as
> > > > > this author
> > > > > recalls) by promoting the MSN as a rival to the internet itself, and
> > > > > when that didn't work,
> > > > > by (according to Sun)poisoning standards like Java that could have been
> > > > > used to
> > > > > build robust e-commerce systems, leaving the world of internet commerce
> > > > > in disarray,
> > > > > and turning dot-coms into dot-bombs as cunsumers shied away from the
> > > > > resulting mess.
> > > > > In an attempt to close the barn door after the horse was out, MS has put
> > > > > forward their
> > > > > new dot-net initiative. It has been called mind-numbingly complex, and
> > > > > due to customer
> > > > > suspicion over Microsofts motives, it is seeing adoption rates about
> > > > > equal to the Ford Edsel.
> > > >
> > > > Sun is nothing more than a MS wannabe. Java, as most know, is not all that
> > > > Sun purports it to be.
> > > >
> > > > > In the view of the author, Microsoft overall seems to be transitioning
> > > > > in behavior, from an
> > > > > innovator that liberated users with cheap easy-to-use software, to a
> > > > > mainframe-style company,
> > > > > obsessed with controlling users and maximizing its revenue from each
> > > > > trivial product upgrade.
> > > > > As users balk at painful and expensive upgrades, MS is squeezing for
> > > > > more license fees from
> > > > > products already in use. One recent article seemed to indicate that MS
> > > > > had asked one firm to pay
> > > > > a license for every CLIENT system that accessed a web site built using
> > > > > windows NT.
> > > >
> > > > MS still makes products that are easy to install and use, and they are
> > > > actually getting better at providing this benefit.
> > >
> > > If you call "repeating the same series of point-and-click operatons
> > > over and over again, for 150 files" easy. Most people, however, would
> > > call that laborious, irritating, and error-prone.
> > >
> > > One of the things computers are BEST at is boring, repititous tasks..
> > > and yet...Mafiasoft software provides NO facilities for the average
> > > user to automate boring, repititious tasks.
> > >
> > > why is that?
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean. BASH/CYGWIN is available for Windows, as is
> > sed & awk, batch files (ok they do suck but they can do *some* large
> > scale things fast), the Windows Scripting Host (although I haven't tried
> > this one out) and some limited DOS console stuff that can do scripting
> > pretty easily.
> >
> > > > Obsessed with controlling users? I'll go along with that. They are, after
> > > > all, a monopoly company. Most monopoly companies behave in the same
> > > > predictable ways.
> > > >
> > > > > Students of history will see that this sort of behavior will inevitably
> > > > > to the demise of Microsoft.
> > > > > But for the US economy, this will be a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > Demise seems a bit strong to me.
> > > >
> > > > > The Barbarians have already gathered at the gates. The Linux OS, which
> > > > > some claim is more
> > > > > powerful and robust than Windows, giving the scalability of large UNIX
> > > > > servers to cheap intel iron,
> > > > > is already growing faster than Windows 2000, and is reported by the Wall
> > > > > Street Journal to have claimed
> > > > > over a 30% market share in servers. Although Linux use on the desktop
> > > > > has been limited to under 10%
> > > > > by the inertia of users accustomed to MS Office, there has now been an
> > > > > end-around-run. The Openoffice
> > > > > organization ( http://www.openoffice.org ) has released an office suite
> > > > > with nearly the same look-and-feel
> > > > > as MS Office. It will process MS office document formats, and runs
> > > > > equally well under Windows and Linux,
> > > > > and is being given away for FREE in perpetuity.
> > > >
> > > > Look and feel don't equate to the ability to usurp an extremely well
> > > > entrenched product.
> > > >
> > > > > Not only that, but old-time arch-rivals of MS, like IBM, are beginning
> > > > > to lose their fear of defying
> > > > > Microsoft. It seems that it has suddenly dawned on them that Microsoft
> > > > > isn't all that talented, or
> > > > > tough, and given their relative sizes, it might just be time for IBM to
> > > > > give pipsqueak Microsoft a
> > > > > thrashing they have long deserved. The first blow is for IBM to spend
> > > > > over $1billion on Linux
> > > > > development this year.
> > > >
> > > > Jury is out, IMO, on what impact IBM will have on MS's market share through
> > > > it's exploitation of Linux.
> > > > Some corporate piss may trickle from the commode down to Linux's end-user
> > > > base.
> > > > Funny, you would have me mistrust MS, (easy to do) but would have me trust
> > > > IBM?
> > >
> > > IBM has new leadership. The current CEO, upon assuming the title,
> > > fired off a corporation-wide memo blasting management for specifically
> > > ignoring customers' true needs, and that this was the primary reason
> > > why IBM was posting losses in the midst of a booming economy. AIX was
> > > one such project. Yes, it's unix...but it is so much UNLIKE other
> > > kinds of unix, that it "doesn't play well with others".
> > >
> > > Adopting Linux is a way of now meeting customers' needs for systems
> > > which can run the same administrative scripts as their Solaris and
> > > HP-UX systems, without IBM having to repeat the capital investment of AIX.
> >
> > I haven't worked at all with AIX so I suppose I will accept that it's
> > more of a malevolent commercial UNIX than a benevolent one. But... I
> > have heard that Linux will run on S/390 as a VM in a dynamic memory
> > partition only, and underneath it's really just S/390 anyway. So why not
> > just run S/390 (I work on an IBM ES/9000 system at work by the way)?
> >
> > > > > As Microsoft does a long slow fade into irrelevance, there will be a
> > > > > liitle pain for the current
> > > > > users of Windows, but it will be quickly replaced by enthusiasm. As the
> > > > > constipating plug of Windows
> > > > > is removed from corporate IS departments, a flush of new creativity will
> > > > > ensue as technical personnel
> > > > > suddenly feel free to explore more creative and innovative ways to build
> > > > > servers, networks and protocols.
> > > > > Which will result in another rush of capital spending, and we will begin
> > > > > anew the virtuous cycle
> > > > > of economic growth.
> > > >
> > > > Until open source has a web browser that will compel users to switch from
> > > > the now dominant I.E., and software efficacious to educational uses is
> > > > produced, it will remain just a pleasant refuge for the more tech savvy from
> > > > MS's visions and frustrations, and the best server platform available. But
> > > > then I enjoy shell scripting, AWK, SED, and the the 'feeling' that using
> > > > open source products provide. Just don't expect me to cruise the web \
> > > > Usenet with NN || Mozilla || Konqueror || <insert inferior browser here>
> > >
> >
> > --
> > - Brent
> >
> > http://rotten168.home.att.net
>
> I've heard that IBMs new S/390 can run 35 years without crashing. Any
> truth to this?
Wouldn't surprise me.
Some IBM AS/400 were assembled without ON/OFF switches....by design.
>
> --
> V
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "tony roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows in space......
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:58:07 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
ok what ever you say!
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:03:19 -0700, tony roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >the russian portable looks like its running nt!
> >tr
>
> Nope, sorry. It's linux with KDE desktop.
>
>
> >"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:31:53 -0400, Patrick McAllister
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >> >Probably a duplicate post, but if not, makes for a
> >funny....kinda.....read.
> >> >
> >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,42912,00.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> This is worth a short quote, don't you think?:
> >>
> >>
> >> 2:00 a.m. Apr. 7, 2001 PDT
> >> .....
> >>
> >> The space station, which has been operational for less than five
> >> months, experiences almost daily computer glitches, according to
> >> the commander's log recently published on the Web.
> >>
> >> Most of the problems appear to be related to Microsoft's Windows NT,
> >> while Russian-made software seems to be more reliable.
> >>
> >> .....
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism - Nazism... no significant differences
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:30:02 +1000
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Mathew wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron> Mathew wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Sam A. Kersh wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > >> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >>Goldhammer wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> > > > >> > >>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control
>of
> > > > >> > >>> >the economy,
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>Precisely.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
> > > > >> > >communism. They have nothing in common.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > both are built on state control of the economy and setting certain
> > > > >> > groups up as elitists leaders. Germany had Hitler; Italy has Mussolini
> > > > >> > and russia had Stalin.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So notorious Latin American, fascist dictators, such as Pinochet,were
> > > > >> really communists.
> > > >
> > > > Aaron> Spot the strawman....
> > > >
> > > > Aaron> You don't seem to get it, do you
> > > >
> > > > Aaron> Communism and Nazism are ideological "kissing cousins".
> > > >
> > > > Actually they have very different _ideologies_, it is the
> > > > practice that is almost identical.
> > >
> > > In other words, a distinction without a difference.
> >
> > Of course there were differences between Nazism and Communism
> > When the Nazis were fighting to take over the world(or as much of it they
> > could)how was it different than the Communists scheme to take over the
> > world?
>
> Thank you for admitting that there is no significant difference
> between Nazism and Communism.
I just showed there"is" a difference,but you are too stupid to see.
Now how many forms of govt that are fascist now,are trying to take over
the world,idiot.
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:33:40 -0400
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > How can you compare PDP-11 assembler to 8080 assembler?
> > > The evidence is in seeing the same reserved words that DEC uses in
> > > comparison to ANSI basic. North Star also wrote their basic, but never
> > > patterned it after DEC like Gates did. MS basic then was so close to
> > > DECs that its a wonder DEC didn't sue him.
> >
> > Especially for the CTRL-Z for end of file.
> >
> > That right there is the smoking gun.
>
> Uhh.. Ctrl-Z is the ASCII definition of EOF.
WRONG, JACKASS. Ctrl-Z is SUB (Substitute).
End of File is CTRL-D.
Dec Hex
0 00 CTRL-@ NUL Null
1 01 CTRL-A SOH Start of Heading
2 2 CTRL-B STX Start Text
3 3 CTRL-C ETX End Text
4 4 CTRL-D EOT End of Transmission (aka End of File)
5 5 CTRL-E ENQ Enquiry
6 6 CTRL-F ACK Acknowledge
7 7 CTRL-G BEL Bell
8 8 CTRL-H BS Backspace
9 9 CTRL-I TAB Horizontal Tab
10 A CTRL-J LF Linefeed
11 B CTRL-K VT Vertical Tab
12 C CTRL-L FF Formfeed
13 D CTRL-M CR Carriage Return
14 E CTRL-N SO Shift Out
15 F CTRL-O SI Shift In
16 10 CTRL-P DLE Data Link Escape
17 11 CTRL-Q DC1 DC1 (X-on)
18 12 CTRL-R DC2 DC2
19 13 CTRL-S DC3 DC3 (X-OFF)
20 14 CTRL-T DC4 DC4
21 15 CTRL-U NAK Negative Acknowledge
22 16 CTRL-V SYN Synchronous Idle
23 17 CTRL-W ETB Ent Transmission Blocks
24 18 CTRL-X CAN Cancel
25 19 CTRL-Y EM End of Medium
26 1A CTRL-Z SUB Substitute
27 1B CTRL-[ ESC Escape
28 1C CTRL-\ FS File Seperator
29 1D CTRL-] GS Group Seperator
30 1E CTRL-^ RS Record Seperator
31 1F CTRL-_ US Unit Seperator
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux.org, gnome.org and linux.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:35:51 -0400
Tan Siong Hua wrote:
>
> I heard that Lnux is more stable, but I pay constant visit (every day) to
> these 3 sites, www.linux.com, www.linux.org and www.gnome.org and the
> gnotices in the www.gnome.org site, what I get is that these web site
> frequently run out of order, time are I can't access this sites very often,
> when compared t www.microsoft.com that only out of service for a very rare
> basis, I wonder what's wrong with these Linux hosted sites, problem with
> bandwidth? I don't know.....
Probably...because from my location (in the US, there's never a problem).
Microsoft probably has servers that are more local to Malaysia
than the linux sites you listed (which are in the US and Western Europe).
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:44:21 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
silverback wrote:
>
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:37:19 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >silverback wrote:
<etc,... snip>
> >> wrong again liar. Fascism is corporate rule. The Nazis allowed the
> >> corporations to write the laws.
> >
> >So, then, you agree that it's bad to let the Sierra Club and similar
> >groups write environmental law, and that it's a bad idea to let
> >those with a vested interest in the welfare bureacracy to write
> >welfare laws.
>
> nope, the Sierra club is hardly a corporation buttfuck.
>From http://outingleaders.sierraclub.org:8082/Common/ins_manual/index.asp;
[...]
The Sierra Club, which includes the chapters, groups, and sections,
is considered one corporation under California corporation law.
Fish, barrel, etc,...
_
Rob Robertson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hack)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 12 Apr 2001 15:44:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>Efficiency is *never* a design goal of interpreted languages, *******.
(Why are you so offensive?)
Efficiency depends on what you care about. In a situation where many small
programs are run a few times each at most (e.g. dynamic programming, or
exploratory programming), cutting out compile time is a win. In other
situations, the run-time setup for a compiled language can be significantly
larger than for an efficiency-minded interpreter -- and for small programs
this can again favour the interpreter -- *if* it is efficiency-minded (i.e.
uses look-side techniques to avoid redoing things, or under-the-cover JIT
compilation, or just plain efficiency-minded implementation).
One interpreted language where efficiency *was* a design goal is Forth.
One where implementation efficiency was a high priority is modern Exec 2,
and even old (1979) Exec 2 is no slouch.
In the balance of things, many interpreters may have considerations of higher
priority than efficiency, but that doesn't exclude efficiency from being one
of the design goals.
Michel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: New virus attacks Linux and MS OS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:33:23 -0500
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:56:15 +0200, Mikkel Elmholdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
><snip>
>
>> > Most Linux users that I know boot into root and stay there. The easiest
>of
>>
>> You must hang with some pretty stupid people.
>>
>> by the way, how do you become non-root in the typical Winblows desktop
>machine
>
>That's easy if you are running WinNT/2000 in a Windows domain. An ordinary
>user is not automatically granted Administrator rights on their own machine,
>unless the IT guys enable it. That means that you cannot install drivers,
>services, and other stuff.
>
This seperation of normal users and administrators was seriously broken
in Windows NT and didn't get better until W2K.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: 12 Apr 2001 09:48:13 -0600
"Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > FTP isn't significant?
> >
> > Clue for the clueless--that's the protocol used for pushing all
> > the files every time you browse a web page.
>
> Ummmm, CLUE for the truely clueless - ftp is NOT the protocol used to browse
> the web. HELLO?! It's HTTP. AND, we're talking about the W2K FTP.EXE
> program, not FTP in general. I use a GUI FTP client, not the command line
> utility.
>
> >
> > rcp... remote copy. similar needs
>
> never needed it, I use other mechanisms
>
> >
> > rsh... remote command execution... foundation-level tool used in web
> interactions.
>
> Completely untrue. I use RCP and other mechanisms.
>
> >
> > nslookup... very important..that's how you translate symbolic hostnames
> > (like www.google.com) into numeric IP addresses
>
> Dude, you are seriously confused... why the hell would I need nslookup for
> that, gee, how about ping to get the translation? Besides, I use something
> better than the command line version.
Nothing is better than ncftp.
You know, life is better after you killfile Aaron -- then you don't
have to listen to him pretend he knows what he's talking about, or
read his way-too-long signature either.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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