Linux-Advocacy Digest #549, Volume #33 Thu, 12 Apr 01 15:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Rob
Robertson)
Re: t. max devlin: kook (T. Max Devlin)
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Linux on Compaq...coming this Summer. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Linux on Compaq...coming this Summer. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (The Ghost In
The Machine)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (The Ghost In
The Machine)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Windows in space...... (Roy Culley)
Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0 (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0 (T. Max Devlin)
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From: Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:57:32 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
silverback wrote:
>
> Rob Robertson wrote:
>
> > silverback wrote:
> >>
> >> Sam A. Kersh wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >> > I've come to the conclusion based on silverback's posts over the
> >> > last year that he is a closet communist. He touts "welfare" aka
> >> > redistribution of wealth through "progressive taxation."
> >>
> >> sorry progressive taxation is not redistribution
> >
> > Poor Glen doesn't know whether he's a Fascist (e.g., the state take-over
> > of the California electricity industry) or a Communist (everything else)!
>
> too bad [Scott Erb = disingenuous fraud] I'm neither I'm a liberal.
And just what are you 'liberating', Glen? You advocate the state-sponsored
theft of 95% of the income of anyone who earns over $500,000, support a
government take-over of private industry (after government regulations
assured their bankruptcy), advocate the suppression of free speech via
Denial of Service attacks against political enemies on the Internet and
firehosing preachers in public spaces,...
You're a Bloody Collectivist, Yeadon.
> >But, that's the problem with labels; a Bloody Collectivist like Glen will
> >twist and contort himself a million different ways in order to disguise
> >the liberty-destroying nature of his politics.
>
> allowing corporations to price gouge consumers has nothing to do with
> being a collectivist [Scott Erb = disingenuous fraud].
The key is competition, Glen. That's what laissez-faire capitalism is
all about, you see; without government regulations preventing some new
company from competing, entrepreneurs have an incentive to innovate and
provide goods and services at a lower cost than that provided by the
'price gougers'.
> In fact the real collectivist are the fucking corporations that are
> bleeding the people.
No corporation tells me to put down a 10X 'scope probe and pick up a
shovel to dig a canal, or dig potatoes out of the fields. I'm free to
do what I want, as long as idiotic government regulations aren't out
to deprive me of my freedom (or electricity!).
And while you're here, why aren't you using a small, inexpensive wind
mill for all your electricity needs at home?
> > What *is* happening in America today? Are we feeling the effects of
> >'democratic socialism', 'liberal fascism', or something else entirely?
> >
> >
> >From http://www.taxguru.org/politics/Commies.htm;
> >
> >
> >COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
> >
> >Published in February 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
> >
> >Following are the ten measures needed for a Communist society, exactly
> >as published in the English language translation.
> >
> >
> > 1. Expropriation of property in land and application of all rents of
> > land to public purposes.
> >
> > 2. A heavy progressive tax.
> >
> > 3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
> >
> > 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
> >
> > 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of
> > a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
> >
> > 6. Centralization of transport in the hands of the State.
> >
> > 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the
> > State; the bringing into cultivation of wastelands, and the
> > improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
> >
> > 8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial
> > armies, especially for agriculture.
> >
> > 9. Combination of agriculture with industry, promotion of the gradual
> > elimination of the contradictions between town and countryside.
> >
> > 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of
> > children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of
> > education with industrial production, etc.
> >
> >
> > The constitution of the United States is currently an odd admixture
> >of fascism, socialism, and resilient pockets of laissez-faire capitalism.
> >It defies an easy categorization because many of the previous forms of
> >collectivism have transformed themselves, as these freedom-destroying
> >ideologies are wont to do. That is why I refer to the current structure
> >as 'AmSoc'.
_
Rob Robertson
"Thus the fear of concentration camps and the resulting insight
into the nature of total domination might serve to invalidate
all obsolete political differentiations from right to left and
to introduce beside and above them the politically most important
yardstick for judging events in our time, namely: whether they
serve totalitarian domination or not."
- Hannah Arendt, _The Origins of Totalitarianism_, p. 442
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: t. max devlin: kook
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:58:02 GMT
Said Anonymous in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:23:24
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 13:24:32 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >You're correct! I've watched new secretaries trying to learn point and
>> >click for the first time. Hand-eye-coordination training is needed.
>> >All newbies to windows have trouble in the beginning. And then real
>> >troubles later on when the crapware starts giving them fits.
>>
>> My good ol' Mom bought a Windows machine three years ago. She is the
>> newbie of all newbies. All Windows users end of being command
>> line users cause eventually they'll experience a crash or lockup
>> that requires an "untidy" Windows shutdown (unplug the machine
>> cause not even the "smart" power switch will work). Then,
>> when the machine is rebooting they get the commandline prompt
>> telling them about how Windows was shutdown is a "untidy" manner
>> and you have to tell it something about what you want the
>> system to do with these dangling file thing-a-ma-jigs it has found.
>> This is the point where I get the call cause my good ol' Mom has
>> no idea whatsoever about what she's being told and asked to make
>> a decision about. The inevitable question is: "Son, why did
>> the computer do this?" and the inevitable answer: Mom, it just
>> Windows".... and I get this call EVERY time this happens.
>
>thank you for proving my point
You don't have a point.
>> Real user-friendly GUI scenario for a newbie, eh?
>
>and that makes the case for linux... how exactly?
Free market competitive development beats "whatever way whoever built
the proprietary crapware thinks is the right way."
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:58:03 GMT
Said Anonymous in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:33:29
[...]
>> So, what you're saying is that a large portion of the population is dumb as
>> a post, if not dumber.
>
>no, i'm saying that hostility to consumer needs is a bug not a feature.
No, 'hostility to consumer needs' is a smoke-screen for apologizing for
the monopoly, not a supportable argument.
>> You then go on to prove your own membership in this
>> elite crew by listing some numbers and making the assumption that some of
>> these numbers being higher than others determine which system is better, and
>> that this entire post is somehow related to the ease of use.
>
>if the goal is to defeat microsoft and its emperor ease of use is job
>one.
Actually, preventing illegal activity is job one. There is no job two.
>if, on the other hand, you prefer to bitch and moan about the
>ignorant endluzers who don't appreciate your brilliance, well
>please do go on.
Like you were? We don't do that.
>just don't expect unix to get anywhere on the desktop anytime soon.
I don't. Unless the federal court's decision comes anytime soon.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq...coming this Summer.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:58:04 GMT
Said Anonymous in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:03:22
>GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Joseph Ogiba wrote:
>> >
>> > This is the biggest bullshit story I ever heard. There is no demand from the
>> > public for a PC with Linux instead of Windows.You Linux diehards have a bug
>> > up your ass the size of Texas over the word MICROSOFT. If there was a demand
>> > Larry Ellison would start a company selling PC's with your "FREE" OS.Your
>> > just pissed because YOU paid $320.00 for one share of VA Linux and watched
>> > it drop to $3.00 today. Linux is DEAD as a consumer OS and Windows XP is the
>> > nail in the coffin.
>>
>> No different than you WinTroll diehards. When the great fanfare of the
>> rollout of WindowsXp arrives into town like a cheap carnival will we
>> know for sure if it really is all that it can be.
>
>i'm no more loyal to microsoft than i am to any other business. [...]
Do you always defend a company's right to rip off their customers, then,
and break the law? What does "loyalty" have to do with it?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:50:55 -0400
silverback wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:04:48 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
> >
> >>Hitler cut the taxes of the rich so did raygun.
> >>Hitler raised the taxes of the poor so did raygun
> >>Hitler cut corporate taxes so did raygun.
> >>Hitler cut welfare programs so did raygun.
> >>Hitler lowered unemployment payments so did raygun.
> >>Hitler outlawed unions so did raygun.
> >>Hitler privitized large portions of the government so did raygun.
> >>Hitler ran on a racist program so did raygun.
> >
> >Typical communist tactic. Take a bunch of "who cares" similarities
> >(hey! They both had a brain and two legs!), throw in a couple
> >bald-faced lies, and hope that no one catches it.
>
> too bad little fool all raygun did once he got to the Whitehouse was
> read the script that Hitler wrote.
So, Reagan killed Jews?
As I recall, you were pissed at him for selling weapons to Isreal.
Or are you talking about some other Hitler....
>
> >
>
> ***********************************************
>
> GDY Weasel
> emailers remove the spam buster
>
> For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at
>
> http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm
>
> *********************************************
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq...coming this Summer.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:00:32 GMT
Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 10 Apr 2001
[...]
>You spent YEARS learning how to use a cockroach infested piece of
>shit called Windows....
>
>It's kind of like a Stockholm syndrome with you people....you've invested
>SOOOOOOOO much time to figuring out how to make Windows behave, that you're
>reluctant to give it up for a superior system (even though you can achieve
>the SAME level of mastery on Unix in less than a month).
Its almost a shame that you sometimes are so correct, Aaron.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:08:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, silverback
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:12:13 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:35:37 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>silverback wrote:
>>>
[snip]
>>> sorry progressive taxation is not redistribution
>>
>>So you would have no problem with your grocer charging you more
>>for a pound of ground beef every time you get a raise.
>>
>
>sorry fuckhead beef purchases is not taxation. Anyone making over 500K
>needs to be taxed at 95% with zero deductions.
>
Any particular reason why $500K and 95%? Why not $100K? Why not
$1M? Why 95%? Why not 100%? Why not 50%?
I would like you to clarify as to precisely why this taxation level,
as opposed to some other.
I also wonder why money should be treated any differently than beef,
in regards to cost of acquisition. (I will note, however, that
there are a number of forms of credit, from prime lending rate to
junk bonds, with varying costs depending on the general creditworthiness
of the requesting individual/company/agency. These costs differences
are *not* mandated by government, AFAIK; it's a bit like expecting
ground round (very low-fat) to be as cheap as ground beef (high-fat).)
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 6d:09h:46m actually running Linux.
You were expecting something relevant down here?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:12:48 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, silverback
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:20:01 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:48:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(The Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
>
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, silverback
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>>on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:10:11 GMT
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:22:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Goldhammer wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
>>>>>> > Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
>>>>>> > >the economy,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hmm. Sounds like communism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Precisely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
>>>>>
>>>>>And Capitalism has state-directed controls on the economy too.
>>>>
>>>>True capitalism is a laize faire proposition. And the prime rule is
>>>>buyer beware.
>>>
>>>and a totally unworkable system
>>
>>I will agree on this point, 100% pure capitalism (with no regulation)
>>would lead to a very foul system indeed, as the top cats start
>>cutting sweetheart deals to shut out the lower echelons of society;
>
>you better duck fellow. You just described the economy under the
>Nazis. The Nazis allowed the largest corporations to write the laws
>the result was the elimination of small businesses.
That is correct; the Nazis did in fact do just that, as opposed
to the Communists which set up state-run control of everything
(including the economy), if my memory serves.
Fascists merely want total *political* control -- difficult to do
if the people aren't happily buying things.
(Granted, this may not be much of a distinction, but it is a
distinction.)
>
>>the lower echelons will in turn shut out even lower echelons, and
>>the poor will end up dead (pick your poison: air pollution, water
>>pollution, ground soil pollution, radioactivity, drive-by shootings
>>by caring individuals using Tommy guns, ... :-) ). Ultimately, one
>>will get a set of communes, each one a separate business, cartel, or trust.
>>
>>This is not to say communism is better; it leads to its own problems.
>>The ideal system is a mix. A gasoline engine (standard 4-stroke,
>>2-stroke, jet turbine, whatever) cannot run on pure fuel or pure air;
>>the trick is to adjust the mix in the combustion chamber for
>>optimum throughput.
>>
>>Similarly with economies. The trick is to get the mix right.
>>(It's actually a lot more complicated than that, with issues such
>>as overshoot and ringing being thrown into the mix -- an overreactive
>>regulatory system can "flood the engine", or lead into an oscillatory
>>motion of the economy as the gain of the "amplifier" is too high,
>>depending on which metaphor one desires. :-) I am of the opinion
>>that the Fed needs to be more reactive and more precise, although
>>I'm not sure how the Fed can accomplish same without a lot more
>>economic data, reported more frequently that it is now.)
>>
>>[.sigsnip]
>>
>>--
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
>>EAC code #191 5d:17h:22m actually running Linux.
>> I'm here, you're there, and that's pretty much it.
>
>***********************************************
>
>GDY Weasel
>emailers remove the spam buster
>
>For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at
>
>http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm
>
>*********************************************
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 6d:10h:03m actually running Linux.
All hail the Invisible Pink Unicorn (pbuh)!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:10:01 -0400
Rob Robertson wrote:
>
> silverback wrote:
> >
> > Rob Robertson wrote:
> >
> > > silverback wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Sam A. Kersh wrote:
> > >
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > >> > I've come to the conclusion based on silverback's posts over the
> > >> > last year that he is a closet communist. He touts "welfare" aka
> > >> > redistribution of wealth through "progressive taxation."
> > >>
> > >> sorry progressive taxation is not redistribution
> > >
> > > Poor Glen doesn't know whether he's a Fascist (e.g., the state take-over
> > > of the California electricity industry) or a Communist (everything else)!
> >
> > too bad [Scott Erb = disingenuous fraud] I'm neither I'm a liberal.
>
> And just what are you 'liberating', Glen? You advocate the state-sponsored
> theft of 95% of the income of anyone who earns over $500,000, support a
> government take-over of private industry (after government regulations
> assured their bankruptcy), advocate the suppression of free speech via
> Denial of Service attacks against political enemies on the Internet and
> firehosing preachers in public spaces,...
>
> You're a Bloody Collectivist, Yeadon.
>
> > >But, that's the problem with labels; a Bloody Collectivist like Glen will
> > >twist and contort himself a million different ways in order to disguise
> > >the liberty-destroying nature of his politics.
> >
> > allowing corporations to price gouge consumers has nothing to do with
> > being a collectivist [Scott Erb = disingenuous fraud].
>
> The key is competition, Glen. That's what laissez-faire capitalism is
> all about, you see; without government regulations preventing some new
> company from competing, entrepreneurs have an incentive to innovate and
> provide goods and services at a lower cost than that provided by the
> 'price gougers'.
>
> > In fact the real collectivist are the fucking corporations that are
> > bleeding the people.
>
> No corporation tells me to put down a 10X 'scope probe and pick up a
> shovel to dig a canal, or dig potatoes out of the fields. I'm free to
> do what I want, as long as idiotic government regulations aren't out
> to deprive me of my freedom (or electricity!).
>
> And while you're here, why aren't you using a small, inexpensive wind
> mill for all your electricity needs at home?
Hell, why is he WASTING electricity posting to USENET.
Actions speak louder than words.
Like most self-title-LIBERals, the only person's liberty who he respects
is his own. His true desire is that everybody else be slaves pandering to
his every beck and call.
Isn't that right, sliverdick....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows in space......
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:11:18 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Roy Culley wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) writes:
>> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:31:53 -0400, Patrick McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>Probably a duplicate post, but if not, makes for a funny....kinda.....read.
>> >>
>> >>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,42912,00.html
>> >
>> > This is worth a short quote, don't you think?:
>> >
>> > 2:00 a.m. Apr. 7, 2001 PDT
>> > .....
>> >
>> > The space station, which has been operational for less than five
>> > months, experiences almost daily computer glitches, according to
>> > the commander's log recently published on the Web.
>> >
>> > Most of the problems appear to be related to Microsoft's Windows NT,
>> > while Russian-made software seems to be more reliable.
>>
>> Did Microsoft ever state that their SW would function in micro-gravity
>> conditions? :-)
>
> No, but a couple of months ago all their trolls were blasting away about
> how NT was going to be running the space station. Even insisted that it
> was flying the station because NASA did some simulations on NT. Now we
> see that it can't even keep the e-mail up.
No need to be flippant about Microsofts new security feature. If exchange
has crashed then no email virus' can get in. :-)
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:23:14 GMT
Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 11 Apr 2001
01:26:43 -0500;
>"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > Microsoft says it's a quality issue, which is nonsense (what -
>> > Microsoft, concerned with quality? <g>). A Register article a few
>> > weeks ago asserted that MS's real reason is that USB doesn't offer a
>> > content-control mechanism, and 1394 does.
>>
>> Didn't MS ever consider all of those USB devices people purchased??
>> Some enterprising company will make adapter cards and drivers for these
>> orphaned products.
>
>USB 1.1 is still supported, USB 2.0 isn't because USB 2.0 isn't done yet.
Yea, right. Like that's ever stopped MS before.
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T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:22:54 GMT
Said GreyCloud in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:02:48
-0700;
>Dave Martel wrote:
>>
>> <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5558916.html>
>>
>> "The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker said it will not include
>> support for USB 2.0, the latest iteration of the universal serial bus
>> connection technology, in Windows XP, its next-generation operating
>> system expected later this year. Microsoft will instead throw its
>> support behind IEEE 1394, also known as FireWire, which was developed
>> by Apple. "
>>
>> Microsoft says it's a quality issue, which is nonsense (what -
>> Microsoft, concerned with quality? <g>). A Register article a few
>> weeks ago asserted that MS's real reason is that USB doesn't offer a
>> content-control mechanism, and 1394 does.
>
>
>Didn't MS ever consider all of those USB devices people purchased??
Why should they?
>Some enterprising company will make adapter cards and drivers for these
>orphaned products.
And these will continue to function properly on Windows for precisely
how long, do you think? Will they wait for a service pack, or merely
slip-stream the updates in with every application? Oh! That's right;
they can just download the changes to your hard drive over the Internet!
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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