Linux-Advocacy Digest #783, Volume #33 Sun, 22 Apr 01 16:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (mlw)
Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)) (Dave
Martel)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (mlw)
Re: What's the point ("Edward Rosten")
Re: What's the point ("Edward Rosten")
Re: What's the point ("Edward Rosten")
Re: What's the point ("Edward Rosten")
Re: What's the point ("Edward Rosten")
Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)) (Dave
Martel)
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, Communist
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) (Gunner©)
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:57:38 -0400
Jon Johansan wrote:
>
> "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9btjqu$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > > >
> > > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > > >
> > > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing
> that
> > the
> > > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he
> hopes
> > to
> > > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> > than a
> > > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > > >
> > > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> > availability,
> > > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> > >
> > > It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year and
> have
> > a
> > > good chuckle.
> >
> > The article claims a few other companies have already gone to W2DC and
> have
> > good success... did you read the article?
> >
> > -Todd
>
> Of course he didn't - he's a blind zealot
Ahh yes, if one can't win an argument by fact or knowledge, the idiot resorts
to insulting the opponent.
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
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http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism))
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:43:36 -0600
On 22 Apr 2001 18:31:04 GMT, "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: "Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
>:> I doubt that would have the intended effect. Even horny gorillas have
>:> standards.
>
>: So, are all these viewpoints from a Democratic, Republican, or
>: Bi-partisan perspective? Just curious. I tend to vote Democratic and am
>: appalled at the "Arkansas Sleaze's" antics myself. He truly brought
>: shame to the office. And then there's Al "I invented the internet"
>: Gore. Damn, what a joke.
>
>
>I'm a libertarian, but I found that lots of people all over the
>political spectrum, including some whose views are similar to those he
>claimed to espouse, were as repulsed by Klinton's unethical and
>illegal behaviors as I was.
Personally I think they're all sleazes. The Republicans would happily
sell out America for a buck, witness Bush's caving in to China on the
recent air collision when he should have been out there screaming
bloody murder about China ramming an American plane in international
waters. According to a recent article (at Nando, I believe), mainland
China has even been assured that this collision will not affect US
arms sales to Tiawan.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:01:14 -0400
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9btjqu$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > > >
> > > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > > >
> > > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> > the
> > > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
> > to
> > > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> > than a
> > > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > > >
> > > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> > availability,
> > > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> > >
> > > It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year and have
> > a
> > > good chuckle.
> >
> > The article claims a few other companies have already gone to W2DC and have
> > good success... did you read the article?
>
> When I was in consulting, several banks in our town converted from a
> Unix/Novell/OS2 solution to a stratight NT solution. Later, when Win2K came out,
> they migrated to that to make their already functional solution even that
> much better.
>
> They were all to happy to rid themselves of Novell and OS/2. They were a little
> shaky about moving away from Unix because they have been fed a lifetime of
> the typically Unix lies ("it's more stable", "it's faster", etc) but once
> they had a professional NT 4 setup running, they realized the power. They had
> no downtime and only increases in performance.
>
> Security had also been improved since there weren't issues with matching
> accounts on disperate systems any more, either.
>
> It just makes the most sense.
Except that it isn't true. Many companies are finding that an NT/2K solution is
not more stable, is not cheaper, is not easier to manage. For every article
about a company switching to an MS solution, one can find one about a company
dropping an MS solution (or pointing out that the previous company did not
deploy the MS solution in the critical areas.)
An article that claims someone is moving to an MS solution is less valuable
than one which claims they are dropping the MS solution. The logic is that one
is based on an estimate, and the other is based on experience.
>
> -c
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
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http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:45:42 +0100
> Thank god I'm not the only one who still reads, I was beginning to think
> that I was some sort of weirdo. From the number of people who
> complain,
I know what you mean.
> I swear, no one must ready books any more. From the age of 9, yes 9, I
> started reading computer books, learning how to program in AmigaBASIC,
I can't remember whan I got my first computer book. I think I was 11 and
it was on BBC Basic. I had a few electronics books before, though.
> learning how to type better documents. Why has there been this darth of
> people willing to learn? has it become un-fashionable?
Yes. Go in to any school playground and see how the `boffs' are treated.
> Instead of
> watching television, maybe the general populous should go back to the
> fine art of reading, and learning, then maybe technology will be able to
> move forward, and people will be able to be more resourceful, such as
> the case with the SCSI card you mentioned in your post.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:59:43 +0100
> That I'll believe. I have Redhat 6.0 installed and I find X crashes a
> hell of a lot more than windows as a whole. Trivial things (like making
> symlinks fer christ's sake) will bring gnome to a screeching halt. I
> seem to have traded "ctrl-alt-delete" for "ctrl-alt-backspace", only
> with way uglier UI graphics and no games =(
Sounds like you have something badly wrong. X only started crashing on me
after I dropped my computer from 1 foot on to a stone surface. Now I've
marked all the bad blocks as bad and reinstalled X, it is once again
completely stable.
Might I suggest you also try something else other than Gnome. FVWM2 is
second to none (IMO).
> X is not a stable environment, and in my case the windowing system IS
> the OS. I'm sorry to say.
It is very stable. You have something badly wrong.
> I'm a graphic designer by trade, not a programmer. I find linux VERY
> user unfriendly. I have yet to find something to do on it that I can't
> do easier, faster and more reliably in windows (and even, to a lesser
Might I suggest that you simply want Linux to work like windows? If that
is the case, then stay with windows because you will be disappointed.
> degree, MacOS 9). I'm used to photoshop, illustrator and quark...Gimp,
> killustrator and latex are VERY poor substitutes...=(
If you think TeX/LaTeX is poor, then you are misusing it. For what it
does, it is second to nothing.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:50:37 +0100
> Salaries ranging from 65K up to 120K. Great standard of living, cheap,
> clean and green country and a woman as a prime minister, what more can a
> person ask for?
A woman as a prime minister is not always a good thing. Look at the last
few years of Baroness Thatcher's reign. Barmy, if you ask me.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:49:04 +0100
<snip fantastic post>
Well, good on you.
Most people seem to throw their hands up in dispair when a dialogue box
with an OK button only on it pops up.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:02:46 +0100
> Now that MacOS X is out though, I won't _need_ Linux. MacOS X will make
> it obsolete. We can run every app we need after a simple recompile IIRC.
> It's Linux, only better, and much, much prettier.
Better? Questionable. Does it scale as well?
Prettier? Am I the only person in the world who thinks FVWM2 is the best
thing ever?
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism))
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:58:54 -0600
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:07:13 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>LOL!! They could just use a bent hook on his bent dick! But even this
>wouldn't be good enough. We need to find somebody to bite him on the
>back the way he did to that other woman he seduced. As Far as I'm
>concerned, and keep the political parties out of it, he's a pervert and
>should be punished.... let him co-exist with a horny gorilla!
Not horrible enough. Put him in a cell with nothing to do but surf the
Web on a 386-25 with 8 megs of RAM and a 14.4 modem - running Windows,
of course.
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From: Gunner© <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:10:24 -0700
"TAO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>> >
>> > >> If you get caught with a women that is not your wife,you can go to
>jail
>> > >> for this;the women might be put to death.
>> >
>> > Aaron> What part of adultery is against the law do you not
>understand?
>> >
>> > It's a freedom thing, you would not understand.
>>
>> Remind me to come over and get your wife pregnant while you're at work.
>>
>Good folks don't break the guy code by doin' other guys' wives.
>It is not a legal thing; it is a moral thing; obviously this concept is
>beyond your understanding.
>
Of course..you do realize it was an analogy..right?
Good point about a guy code thing. I NEVER fish in another mans pond
(without permission of the owner)
Gunner
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
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