Linux-Advocacy Digest #933, Volume #33 Thu, 26 Apr 01 09:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? ("MH")
Re: Baseball (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Bye all. Wow the Linux scene has changed. ("MH")
Re: Impact of Internet (Thomas Jespersen)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Andrew T. Austin")
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("You've got MALE.. sex organs!")
Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft (Nick Maclaren)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("You've got MALE.. sex organs!")
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From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:23:08 GMT
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> MH wrote:
> >
> > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > The Microsoft zealots always quote marketshare at some point, have you
> > noticed?
> > > I started thinking about that, why is it important? Is it important?
> >
> > In a mixed economy it's vitally important.
> > Unless something happened while I napped, I believe this is still a
> > capitlist system.
> > Marketshare == more captial, which in turn means more investment, more
> > investment == more R&D. Which == more products & promotion which == ...
> > circular development and growth, which == more return on investment,
which
> > == ...
>
> Not really true. A small slice of a market can be enough to fund a good
> company. Mercedes sells fewer cars than GM, but is seemingly more
profitable
> and does more research.
I beg to differ. We're talking about markets, aren't we?
Mercedes competes within its market space, which is defined as upscale,
higher quality products.
They compete with the likes of Bmw, Jaguar, etc., they don't have to compete
with Chevy and Ford directly. Target marketing has been around as long as
markets and marketing.
The fact that they will sell less cars in a smaller market is offset by what
customers pay for their cars.
But then there are many factors that contribute to a companies profitibility
other than market share.
> Success or failure of a company is more about how well it manages its
> resources, which market share is only one.
Agreed.
> > > I think "why" marketshare is somewhat important, is because you need a
> > > community of users and developers to create the various software. The
days
> > > where one could write all that they need are long gone.
> >
> > Market 'share' is an odd term when you ponder it.
> > The market 'slice' that a company has at any given time is a better term
for
> > me when talking about a 'market'. If we're talking about some
> > pie-in-the-sky, romantic, Eric Raymond-like-LSD-induced mirage --where
life
> > is a bowl of strawberries as long as you divulge the 'source', count me
out.
> > Viewing source _is_ cool. Making it a business model is absurdity. Free
and
> > open intellectual exchange, as beneficial as it is, doesn't pay the
bills.
> > Torvalds is out at Transmeta gobbling 6 figures enabling Bill Gate's
> > visions, such as the new Tablet coming from MS in 2002 which will run on
> > Transmetta's processor. Is Transmeta's internal source or intellectual
> > property open? I think not.
> >
> > I prefer reality with my breakfast.
>
> Reality is an interesting point of view. Bill Gates may be very wealthy,
and
> Microsoft may be profitable, but they are not necessarily the best way to
go.
> With the wavering economy, open source may start taking bigger chunks out
of
> commercial software.
I think this is not only possible but probable. But, and this is big but,
many fail to realize or remember that software is typically 20% or less of
the TCO of an IT structure.
The sheer ubiquity factor of MCSE's (be nice) that can be had to for
reasonable cost to manage NT server farms (small to large) still offsets the
cost of free software and Unix engineers, analysts, and developers.
Especially when the target platform is still windows in some shape or form.
> > > The real issue is how big does that market need to be? How many active
> > > users/developers does it take before a system is self sustaining?
Also,
> > does
> > > open source make this number larger or smaller than the equivalent
closed
> > > source?
> >
> > The market, under ideal conditions, should be its own determinate.
>
>
> Pure "capitalism" does not work. Capitalism with social controls is the
only
> proven successful path for humans.
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:25:18 +1200
Edward Rosten wrote:
>> Look at the type of people who buy Microsoft products, normally those
>> who are easily ammused by programs like "when animals attack" or "when
>> building collapse".
>
> Hey! I used to watch "When Buildings Collapse" and I don't buy microsoft
> products (I was doing a cource on civil engineering at the time,
> though).
>
> -Ed
>
LOL! forgot, and those sort of MS software buyers also live in a trailor
park because they spent the good part of there savings on buying Microsoft
software thinking there were giving their children a head start.
Matthew Gardiner
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
Running SuSE Linux 7.1
The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:25:39 -0400
Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
> On charity:
>
> Who is the greater donor: the wealthy merchant that pays a handful of
> silver pieces from his great wealth, or the poor widow that donates
...her LAST...
> 2 copperpieces out of her poverty?
> I get thoroughly disgusted at wealthy people making a big show about how
> much they donate.
Especially when the donation is in the form of $0.50 pieces of
aluminam-coated plastic marked up to $800 for tax-write off purposes.
> Well, rest assured, it is easier that a camel passes
> through the eye of a needle....and so on and so forth.
> (Hmmmm, would that explain the cover of 'Programming Perl'?)
> Sorry about the religious overtones, but this got me riled up a little.
>
> Mart
>
> --
> Write in C, write in C,
> Write in C, yeah, write in C.
> Only wimps use BASIC, Write in C.
> http://www.orca.bc.ca/spamalbum/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bye all. Wow the Linux scene has changed.
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:26:13 GMT
This is good...
> Blah blah blah. Have fun giving Microsoft all your money as they
> convince you that you need their costly products badly, very badly.
> I don't get it. Base the viability of Linux in the corporate sphere by
> reading posts in a Usenet group? And yes this post was written from a
> win98 box. So what? I use Win98 for a few games and digital audio
> recording. [snipped] ...
I thought 'real men' had no reason to use windows anything? Isn't that 90%
of COLA?
Geez ..make up your minds people. You bash Aaron for weeks over his client
header ...
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From: Thomas Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.theory,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Impact of Internet
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:33:46 +0200
"Edward Hsu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Actually, Berners-Lee created HTML by simplifying an old draft of the SGML
> standard and then added a hyperlink feature (the famous <A HREF="">
<long snip, thanks for the history btw.>
To sum it up:
http://www.w3.org/History.html
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From: "Andrew T. Austin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.ment,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.survivalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:15:40 +0100
>>One way of creating anarchy is by keeping all of the felons out
on the street, and fiercely punishing those law-abiding citizens
who do anything to interfere with a felon.>>
Ahhh.....you must have been to the UK recently.
I like this current policy of making sure we all become "passive
bystanders" - nothing to do with the way we all then welcome the CCTV into
the streets and ID cards, then...noooo sirrreeee..... It`s easier to
control a population by making it frightened of itself, than making it
frightened of the government (polarity response rebellion ensues when you
subdue people en masse with sticks and stones) - that way the population
welcomes any control that is introduced in order to make it "safer".
Paranoid, me?? I live in a panopticon, why would i be paranoid? *tee hee*
Regards,
Andrew "lots of things to hide" Austin.
www.23NLPeople.com
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:36:19 -0400
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> > Mr Stallman did not invent the concept, he just advocates something
> >> > patterned after the operating procedures used with the PDP-1 at MIT
> >> > about 1962 or so. Quite a bit before anything called "XMODEM" I
> >> > would say.
> >>
> >> As much as it pains me to defend Aaron Kulkis, he was talking about MIT
> >> in the 50s and 60s, he didn't even mention Richard Stallman. I
> >
> > Correct. EVEN Stallman is a LATECOMER in the Open Software movement.
>
> That's not true.
>
> Origionally, hardware was where the money came from. Software was this
> incedental thing you used. As a result, all software was open and
> everyone was happy. Stallman was around in this time, programming
> computers and being happy.
>
> The problem came with the non open movement where people suddenly decided
> that NDA's were a good thing etc. Stallman had a problem with this and as
> it got worse, he started (or at any rate played a huge part in getting it
> off the ground) a trend in the oppersite directinn: to make softwareopen
> again. But, by this stage it was no longer enough to have software in the
> public domain (as it always was) because now there was a real threat of
> people taking public domain software and closing it. That's why the GPL
> was created.
Then why was IBM dragged into Federal Court over the issue of
MANDATORY bundling of IBM programming services with IBM computer sales?
At the time, IBM's contracts PROHIBITED any non-IBM employee from
programming thier machines.
Why would that be?
Hint: $$$$$
>
> So it is true that Stallman did not invent open software, but he started
> a drive to make all software open again.
>
You have very little understanding of the 1950's and 1960's.
Read Steve Levy's book "Hackers"
> -Ed
>
> --
> You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
>
> u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:37:31 -0400
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > Who is the greater donor: the wealthy merchant that pays a handful of
> > silver pieces from his great wealth, or the poor widow that donates 2
> > copperpieces out of her poverty? I get thoroughly disgusted at wealthy
> > people making a big show about how much they donate. Well, rest assured,
> > it is easier that a camel passes through the eye of a needle....and so
> > on and so forth.
> > (Hmmmm, would that explain the cover of 'Programming Perl'?)
> > Sorry about the religious overtones, but this got me riled up a little.
>
> Religious connotations aside, I agree. I do get quite cynnical when righ
> people use charity as a gigantic billboard.
Especially when the "Millions of dollars of charity" consists of
$0.50 pieces of aluminum-coated plastic platters "valued" at $800
for tax-write-off purposes.
> That's not what it is for,
> and it shouldn't be used s one. On the practical side, is it al that bad
> since the result is more money to charity which can not be all bad.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
>
> u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:38:12 -0400
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> Call you a moron. An immature moron at that. Maybe I'll stick you
> >> in my killfile too--your .sig is annoying, and you never write anything
> >> of merit anyway.
> >
> > Better watch out, or you'll become Item "M"
>
> Go on! See if you can make it in to the Sig!
>
> You will be immortalised in irrelevand usenet history!
>
I guess I should have put a smiley-face after that.
> -ed
>
>
> --
> You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
>
> u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:42:57 -0600
Perhaps because little macho right wing turds generally beat the shit
out of women, and not vice versa?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> tom parker wrote:
> >
> > On 24 Apr 2001 22:48:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:38:22 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Hatred of male-hating sexism =/= hatred of women.
> > >>>
> > >>> You said women are better off when they are not allowed to walk in
> > >>> the street without male company.
> > >>>
> > >>> That's pretty hateful.
> > >>
> > >>Ask a woman who'se been raped while walking home alone at night.
> > >
> > >For a self-proclaimed freedom lover, you have a very hard time
> > >noticing the difference between personal preference and enforced
> > >restriction.
> > >
> > >If those women prefer to walk alone, they should be able to.
> > >If those women prefer not to walk alone, they should be able to.
> >
> > If you will settle for probabilities, the women shouldn't worry about
> > it as much as the men. By far the greatest number of victims of
> > violence of all kinds are men. (In the US anyway).
>
> Very true.
>
> If the Feministas are interested in *EQUALITY*, then why aren't they
> out moaning and screeching for a "Violence Against Men Act" ???
>
> >
> > Tom Parker
> > Stupidity is Evil waiting to happen. - Keith Thernes
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey, right wing dufus, gynophobe, and hypocrite
> ICQ # 3056642
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Maclaren)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft
Date: 26 Apr 2001 12:41:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> > |>
|> > |> TCP/IP takes line of configuration,
|> > |> and 2 commands to get up and running
|> >
|> > For those of us who are less familiar with such arcane incantations
|> > than you are, please could you post your magically concise single
|> > line of configuration and two commands?
|>
|> in /etc/hosts
|> numeric.ip.address.here hostname [alias1 ...]
|>
|> ifconfig eth0 up address numeric.ip.of.thishost
|> route add default numeric.ip.of.gateway
That is grounds for being thrown off many or most networks. Most
require a specific netmask and often a specific set of DNS servers.
There is currently a plague of misconfigured systems with incorrect
netmasks.
Not to say that that won't always be enough, and will be cleared
when you next reboot.
You are also assuming that someone else has done a lot of other
configuration when setting up the system distribution that you are
using, because there are dozens of other aspects that need to be
set correctly. Even at the hardware and TCP/IP levels, let alone
if you actually want to run any standard clients or daemons.
Nice try, but no banana.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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From: "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:46:17 -0600
Spot the right wing dufus, who fears women..
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> >
> > Translation: the girls back home won't touch Aaron, in spite
> > of his brushes and M16..
>
> Spot the slander.
>
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I understand the wimmen really go for those unix programmer geeks
> > > > nowadays. But just for SEX, they want to screw the little geeky brains
> > > > out - certainly not for dating!
> > > >
> > > > They particularly like that gynophobic disposition, developed over a
> > > > lifetime of not getting laid, or even a smell.
> > > >
> > > > Right, you pathetic little right wing turd unix programmer geek?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm also
> > > A soldier
> > > and an artist.
> > >
> > > Of course, most foreign women appreciate intelligence more than their
> > > American counterparts...so... they get the rewards.
> > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:44:43 GMT, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a
> > > > > > >self
> > > > > > >> flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You prefer to marry women that get paid less? Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because women *DO* less.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Roberto Alsina (maybe marrying a rich woman, so I can
> > > > > > become a househusband and code free
> > > > > > software is not such a bad idea)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, virgin, and gynophobe.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, virgin, gynophobe, and right wing dufus
>
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