Linux-Advocacy Digest #970, Volume #33 Fri, 27 Apr 01 01:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Jan Johanson")
Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Jan Johanson")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Chad Everett)
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Jan Johanson")
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Jan Johanson")
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product ("Jan Johanson")
Re: Impact of Internet ("Jan Johanson")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("B.B.")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Article: Want Media Player 8? Buy Windows XP ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Quicken for Linux??? (Ace Jones)
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:50:05 -0500
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:43:04 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <GK4F6.9497$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > And how is that any different from opening up Linux to allow normal
> >> > users to do priviledged activities?
> >>
> >> The only priviledged activity that normal users will be allowed to do
is
> >> write to the CD. Normal users would still not have the ability to
load
> >> and unload drivers. If you have to give out this kind of authority on
> >> W2K to allow normal users to write CDs, why not just give everyone the
> >> password of administrator and be done with it?
> >
> >"Loading" drivers means starting and stopping them, not installing them.
> >The users can only start and stop the drivers that the administrator has
> >installed, and the admin can deny them access to specific drivers by
> >disallowing them access in the ACL.
> >
>
> But this doesn't work witht the CD/RW inability to allow
non-administrators
> write access to CD/RW devices on W2K. You shouldn't suggest things that
> don't work.
Explain then how I, a "power user", am able to use DirectCD right now on my
W2K Pro machine?
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:50:08 -0500
"Eric Leblanc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > While I don't agree with with your experience, even if it were true,
lets
> > think about it for a moment. Even if 1% of the people that own Windows
> > bought your software. That's still over 2 million copies. If 1% of the
> > Linux users buy your software, how much is it?
>
> 60,000? I'm not arguing with you that the market for windows is huge.
> I'm arguing that there are more peoples that don't buy theirs softwares
> in that market. Beside, didn't you argue previously that it was not
> because of market share that software developpers weren't seen the linux
> market as viable for theirs products? Was it because we want everything
> for free?
No, I'm saying that the paying market share (versus the actual market share)
is what matters.
> I object to that statement that linux user want everything for free.
> Give me something that is worth paying for (and that i need) and i
> will buy it.
I didn't say all Linux users. Hell, I didn't even say it was the case, just
that this was the perception.
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:51:08 -0500
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:47:25 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >"Chronos Tachyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in
> >message
> >> >> Ouch, instant security compromise if you run a trojan that knows
what
> >to
> >> >> look for. So much for the benefits of running as a mere mortal
instead
> >> >> of Administrator.
> >> >
> >> > And how is that any different from opening up Linux to allow normal
> >users
> >> > to do priviledged activities?
> >>
> >> Very. In Linux, you have at *least* 3 options that are more secure
than
> >> what you described for Win2K:
> >>
> >> 1) Make your CD writing program setuid. If I'm not mistaken, cdrecord
> >(the
> >> most commonly used CD writing program under Linux) is designed to be
> >> relatively secure when made setuid, although I wouldn't really trust it
> >> without a full source audit.
> >
> >You can do the same with Win2k. You can run any program as another user,
> >including administrator when you are not logged in as that account.
> >
> >> 2) Do a "chgrp cdrom /dev/{sr,sg}0; chmod 0660 /dev/{sr,sg}0", then
make
> >> your CD writing program setgid. This way, the program does not gain
root
> >> permissions at any time during its execution.
> >
> >You can do the same in Win2k setting the execute permissions to the
device
> >drivers to only administrators and then giving permission to only one
user
> >or groups of users, then giving them the ability to start and stop
devices.
> >They can only then start the devices they have permissions to.
> >
>
> But none of these things allow a non-administrator on Windows 2K Pro to
> write to CD/RW drives. What a crock. I installed a CD/RW drive for users
> to create CDs on a Windows 2K Pro system, and they can't. I am not about
> to make them administrators.
Dude - stop it with this FUD - you CAN burn CDs under W2K without being an
administrator.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:26:03 -0500
On 26 Apr 2001 23:29:06 -0500, Jan Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:53:19 GMT, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >
>> >"Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:3ae45e41$0$2769$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >>
>> >> > Except that it isn't true. Many companies are finding that an NT/2K
>> >> solution is
>> >> > not more stable, is not cheaper, is not easier to manage.
>> >>
>> >> Except that what you just wrote is NOT true. W2K IS much more stable
>and
>> >> cheaper and in every single way imaginable much MUCH easier to manage.
>I
>> >> mean, night and day differences.
>> >
>> >Stable? Where's the W2K box that's been running for 2 years?
>> >
>>
>> Much easier to manage?
>
>yes. MUCH.
>
>>
>>
>> I put in a Yamaha CD_RW drive a while back so users can
>> create CDs on a Windows 2K Pro box. Trouble is, Windows
>> 2K Pro will only let the administrator write to the CD-RW
>> drive. WIndows "online help and knowledge base": no help.
>> Yamaha online help: only administrator can write to CD-RW
>> drives in WIndows 2K. Easy CD Creator and NERO app: same
>> answer. So Ive got this new CD-RW drive and only administrator
>> can even use it. Really nice for the users, huh? A CD-RW
>> drive that they can't use.
>
>Hmmm... I'm using DirectCD right now, logged in as a power user. Working
>fine for me.
>
Where did you get DirectCD and how much does it cost? Are you using
NTFS?
>>
>> How does this make Windows 2K Pro easier to manage?
>
>What does using a CD-RW have to do with _managing_ a W2K box? It works as a
>CD right? You can burn disks right? (I sure can, do it all the time, you
>only need to have administrator rights to install the software because it
>changes system level drivers).
>
The ability to write to CDRW drives on W2K is application specific. Windows
has no builtin default capability to allow non-administrators write access
to CD drives. If you want to write to your CDRW on W2K, you have to buy
additional software.
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:53:10 -0500
"Chronos Tachyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:F6tF6.27520$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue 24 Apr 2001 11:33, "JS PL" <hi everybody!> wrote:
>
> [Snip]
> >
> > Neither does Windows2000 pro. You, once again, are working with false
> > information. Users can easily burn discs with default user permissions.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Anyone caring to see for themselves simply install CDRWin from
> > goldenhawk.com , and burn to your hearts content. I'm sure just about
any
> > other app will work too.
> >
>
> This terrifies me. Users should not have the ability to directly send
> low-level commands to the hardware (ANY hardware) by default.
WOW - so, according to you, someone with "default user permissions" should
not be able to use the modem, write to the hard drive or use their video
card?!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:54:42 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:56:21 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Wednesday April 25 11:04 AM ET
> > Non-Biological Dad Must Pay Support
>
> [ article snipped ]
>
> Why are you double-posting this ?
>
> Anyway, while the article is interesting, it's also worth mentioning that
> recourse one has to challenge "presumption of paternity" varies on a state
> by state basis.
>
> It appears that there is a move towards placing greater emphasis on DNA
> testing (as a means of challenging paternity) and I for one think that's
> a good move.
>
Yes...but only if the judge ORDERS it, because most female custodial
parents REFUSE to let a DNA test be done without a court order.
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:55:11 -0500
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:02:44 +0200, JoFi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"JS PL" <hi everybody!> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> ><snip>
> >> > > Hint: I already tried it and I *can* burn CD's as a "user" with
> >default
> >> > > user settings. I didn't do anything except install the CDRWin
> >software,
> >> > > create a new user, log in as that user and burn a CD.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Then your setup is insecure. Do you have Win2K installed on a FAT32
> >> > partition, by chance?
> >>
> >> Here's an idea...shut the fuck up quit trying to grasp at straws. It's
an
> >> NTSF file system, your just plain_fucking_wrong about the Win2K burning
> >> issue / FUD! End of discussion.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Exactly. Just another anti-MS zealot spouting as many lies as they can in
> >the hope that someone will think its true without actually verifying.
> >
> >BTW I can burn on W2k as a normal user. *shock* ;-)
> >
>
> Please enlighten us on what you did to allow normal users to burn CDs
> on W2K. You probably went out a bought a $50.00+ program for this
> purpose. You could've used that money to buy an entire OS plus
> gads of applications, plus apps that will allow normal users to
> burn CDs SECURELY.
How I brn CDs under W2K:
Installed DirectCD as administrator.
Logged in as my usual self, a "power user"
Dragged and dropped files onto CD-RW
Was utterly not amazed that it worked.
what's the big deal?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:56:07 -0400
Brent R wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > >
> > > Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > > >>
> > > >> >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
> > > >> >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
> > > >>
> > > Aaron> Nope. Paternity is still judged on English common law: whoever
> > > Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
> > > Aaron> otherwise.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
> > >
> > > Aaron> All 50, as they have no statutory law to supercede the common law.
> > >
> > > You failed to provide a single citation.
> > >
> > > Aaron> Hope that helps, leftist feeb.
> > >
> > > Please name a leftist position of mine.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> >
> > Wednesday April 25 11:04 AM ET
> > Non-Biological Dad Must Pay Support
> >
> > By DENISE LAVOIE, Associated Press Writer
> >
> > BOSTON (AP) - The state's highest court ruled against a man who tried
> > to stop making child support payments for a 7-year-old girl after a
> > DNA test showed she was not his daughter.
> >
> > The Supreme Judicial Court said the man had waited too long to
> > challenge his paternity. It was 51/2 years from the girl's birth in
> > 1993 to the time he first went to court.
> >
> > "I think what's critical is the parent-child relationship and the
> > reliance that's occurred over the years in this particular case,''
> > said the mother's lawyer, Pauline Quirion.
> >
> > The man's lawyer, Thomas Conroy, said his client intends to maintain
> > regular visits with the girl but objects to having a court impose
> > mandatory child support payments.
> >
> > For most of the girl's life, the man she thought was her father made
> > weekly support payments to the girl's mother. The two were not
> > married.
> >
> > Years later, after the man heard rumors from friends that he was not
> > the father, a fertility specialist told him his low sperm count made
> > it unlikely he could father a child.
> >
> > In 1999, after the girl's mother won a court-ordered increase in child
> > support payments, he took the girl for a DNA test that determined he
> > was not the father.
> >
> > He then went to court to try to set aside his acknowledgment of
> > paternity, entered in court shortly after the girl's birth. He also
> > requested reimbursement for all the child support he had already paid.
> >
> > A judge ordered genetic testing and said that if tests established
> > that the man was not the girl's father, he would be entitled to stop
> > future support payments.
> >
> > A lawyer for the girl's mother asked the court to suspend its order
> > until the case could be heard by the Supreme Judicial Court in
> > February, and the DNA tests were never done.
> >
> > In its ruling Tuesday, the top court said that although it cannot
> > force the man to continue to nurture his relationship with the girl,
> > ``We can ensure that Cheryl, who may be deprived of her father's
> > affection and longheld assumptions about her paternity, is not also
> > deprived of the legal rights and financial benefits of a parental
> > relationship.''
> >
> > As of February, he had paid about $28,000 in child support.
> >
> > The names of those involved in the case are impounded under paternity
> > law in Massachusetts.
> > > --
> > > Andrew Hall
> > > (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
>
> Damn that is, truly, shocking Aaron. I forwarded it to some people I
> know.
>
> Aaron, you are a kook, but you do make some good points.
So was Einstein.
Hope that helps.
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product
Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:57:08 -0500
"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9c6rsi$j17$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> > > Bingo buddy! Exactly correct. Windows 2K Pro is crappy.
> >
> > If only I could afford the damned thing to find out. I imagine there's
> > some illegal iso's of Win 2K out there on the web, though.
>
> There is a perfectly legal trial version.
> If you can't afford it (I think it's 5$), then you've other problems.
He runs Linux - he can't afford a haircut - what makes you think he could
afford real software?
Remember - linux is free if your time is worth nothing.
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Impact of Internet
Date: 27 Apr 2001 00:02:17 -0500
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> WesTralia wrote:
> >
> > Peter da Silva wrote:
> > >
> > > In article Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You're an idiot.
> > > > ... clueless ...
> > > > ... moron.
> > >
> > > What purpose does this serve?
> > >
> >
> > Oh... probably the same purpose of him sitting in his mom's basement
> > while wearing a plastic army helmet while logged onto the Internt
>
> No...my KEVLAR is in the armory, with all the rest of my basic issue.
given that "KEVLAR" is not stored in "the armory" in Detroit we can once
again conclude you are full of it.
(my Second Chance is not _stored_ anywhere - it's worn)
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From: "B.B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:08:07 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
@"B.B." wrote:
@>
@> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
@> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
@>
@> [...]
@>
@> @> Your .sig is too long. Even us uneducated types can spot it.
@> @
@> @Whatcha gonna do about it?
@>
@> Call you a moron. An immature moron at that. Maybe I'll stick you
@> in my killfile too--your .sig is annoying, and you never write anything
@> of merit anyway.
@
@Better watch out, or you'll become Item "M"
Ooh, I'm pissing in my boots.
--
B.B. --I am not a goat! [EMAIL PROTECTED] @airmail.net
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:06:10 -0400
"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
>
> Just as long as you're armed, right, you pathetic little right wing
> turd?
Clue for the clueless: THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT issues me a fully-automatic
M-16, and as much ammo as I need.
As well as training me on machine guns, combat pistols, grenade launchers,
rocket launchers, and missile launchers.
YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK
HOPE THAT HELPS, feeb.
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >
> > > Spot the right wing dufus, who fears women..
> >
> > Ah yes, the old, tired, worn-out shaming ploy.
> >
> > I have no fear of women. I distrust the courts.
> >
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Translation: the girls back home won't touch Aaron, in spite
> > > > > of his brushes and M16..
> > > >
> > > > Spot the slander.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I understand the wimmen really go for those unix programmer geeks
> > > > > > > nowadays. But just for SEX, they want to screw the little geeky brains
> > > > > > > out - certainly not for dating!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They particularly like that gynophobic disposition, developed over a
> > > > > > > lifetime of not getting laid, or even a smell.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right, you pathetic little right wing turd unix programmer geek?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm also
> > > > > > A soldier
> > > > > > and an artist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, most foreign women appreciate intelligence more than their
> > > > > > American counterparts...so... they get the rewards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:44:43 GMT, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work
>is a
> > > > > > > > > >self
> > > > > > > > > >> flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You prefer to marry women that get paid less? Why?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Because women *DO* less.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Roberto Alsina (maybe marrying a rich woman, so I can
> > > > > > > > > become a househusband and code free
> > > > > > > > > software is not such a bad idea)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > > > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > > > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, virgin, and gynophobe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, virgin, gynophobe, and right wing dufus
> > > >
> > > > --
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Article: Want Media Player 8? Buy Windows XP
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:07:08 -0500
"Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Why would anyone be surprised that Microsoft was trying to
> <gasp> leverage its monopoly to damage competitors? How
> long does it take to forget:
>
> - Stac Electronics (MS lost in court)
Actually, MS both lost and won in this case. Stac lost a countersuit by MS
for reverse engineering DOS, while MS lost Stac's patent infringement case
(note that a patent infringement is not a copyright infringement. It is
perfectly plausable to violate a patent with completely original ideas and
code).
> - Digital Research/Caldera (MS paid Caldera $150M++)
To end a many year old lawsuit that was dragging through the woods.
Settling doesn't admit guilt, only that it is cheaper.
> - Intel (Intel caved in and stopped "competing")
There is only one executives word on that. Intel itself says it never
happened.
> - Netscape (see DOJ action)
Oh yeah.. the company that started with nothing and less than 4 years later
was sold for 12 *BILLION* dollars. Yeah, they really lost a lot.
> Q-DOS (became MS-DOS, and cost $3M or so later on)
So?
> Lattice (for their C compiler)
So?
> Multiplan (became Excel)
So?
> Sybase (became SQL Server)
MS and Sybase worked together on that quite a bit. MS also developed
Sybases PC versions.
> Powerpoint
I'm not so sure about that.
> Fox (became FoxPro)
It was FoxPro before they bought it.
> Avalanche (SGML tools)
MS doesn't have SGML tools.
> Visio
So?
> Intuit got away because of <gasp> anti-trust concerns.
And Intuit is still winning.
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From: Ace Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quicken for Linux???
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:09:15 GMT
Al wrote:
> Does any company make a Quicken like product for Linux??? This is one
> of my must have apps.
You could try gnucash, www.gnucash.org. I just downloaded the sources tonite,
so I don't know how well it works (if at all!)
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