Linux-Advocacy Digest #990, Volume #33           Fri, 27 Apr 01 11:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
  Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4  are       ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support   from...non-fathers.
  Re: What percentage of open-source programmers are paid for working on open-source 
projects? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (chrisv)
  Re: Microsoft hit new security 'level' :-) ("David Brown")
  Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy. (David Neary)
  Re: Aaron Kookis: over 340 posts in 6 days! (chrisv)
  Re: Primary and secondary missions ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Primary and secondary missions ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4  are     liars. 
(chrisv)

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Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:53:34 GMT

>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:

   Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >> 
   >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
   >> 
   Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >> >>
   >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
   >> >>
   >> >> >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
   >> >> >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
   >> >>
   Aaron> Nope.  Paternity is still judged on English common law: whoever
   Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
   Aaron> otherwise.
   >> >>
   >> >> Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
   >> 
   Aaron> All 50, as they have no statutory law to supercede the common law.
   >> 
   >> You failed to provide a single citation.
   >> 
   Aaron> Hope that helps, leftist feeb.
   >> 
   >> Please name a leftist position of mine.
   >> 
   >> Thanks in advance.
   >> 

   Aaron> Wednesday April 25 11:04 AM ET
   Aaron> Non-Biological Dad Must Pay Support

   Aaron> By DENISE LAVOIE, Associated Press Writer

   Aaron> BOSTON (AP) - The state's highest court ruled against a man who tried
   Aaron> to stop making child support payments for a 7-year-old girl after a
   Aaron> DNA test showed she was not his daughter.

See, he had a DNA test.

This decision was an abomination, but it shows your claim
that a man cannot demand a DNA test is false.

I cited this case as an example of bad law yesterday.

   Aaron> The Supreme Judicial Court said the man had waited too long to
   Aaron> challenge his paternity. It was 51/2 years from the girl's birth in
   Aaron> 1993 to the time he first went to court.

I have yet to understand what the court was thinking of here.

Disgusting.  However, once he challenged the paternity he got
the DNA test.

Contrary to your false claim.

   Aaron> "I think what's critical is the parent-child relationship and the
   Aaron> reliance that's occurred over the years in this particular case,''
   Aaron> said the mother's lawyer, Pauline Quirion.

   Aaron> The man's lawyer, Thomas Conroy, said his client intends to maintain
   Aaron> regular visits with the  girl but objects to having a court impose
   Aaron> mandatory child support payments.

   Aaron> For most of the girl's life, the man she thought was her father made
   Aaron> weekly support payments to the girl's mother. The two were not
   Aaron> married.

   Aaron> Years later, after the man heard rumors from friends that he was not
   Aaron> the father, a fertility specialist told him his low sperm count made
   Aaron> it unlikely he could father a child.

   Aaron> In 1999, after the girl's mother won a court-ordered increase in child
   Aaron> support payments, he took the girl for a DNA test that determined he
   Aaron> was not the father.

   Aaron> He then went to court to try to set aside his acknowledgment of
   Aaron> paternity, entered in court shortly after the girl's birth. He also
   Aaron> requested reimbursement for all the child support he had already paid.

   Aaron> A judge ordered genetic testing and said that if tests established
   Aaron> that the man was not the girl's father, he would be entitled to stop
   Aaron> future support payments.

See that, the JUDGE ordered DNA testing.  Had the SJC determined that
paternity was relevant, the new DNA test would have been done.

   Aaron> A lawyer for the girl's mother asked the court to suspend its order
   Aaron> until the case could be heard by the Supreme Judicial Court in
   Aaron> February, and the DNA tests were never done.

   Aaron> In its ruling Tuesday, the top court said that although it cannot
   Aaron> force the man to continue to nurture his relationship with the girl,
   Aaron> ``We can ensure that Cheryl, who may be deprived of her father's
   Aaron> affection and longheld assumptions about her paternity, is not also
   Aaron> deprived of the legal rights and financial benefits of a parental
   Aaron> relationship.''

Bizarre ruling.

   Aaron> As of February, he had paid about $28,000 in child support.

   Aaron> The names of those involved in the case are impounded under paternity
   Aaron> law in Massachusetts. 


-- 
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:55:59 GMT

Said JS PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:40:49 -0400;
>As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality
have
>some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
>Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
>possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
>
>That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
>prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
>If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
>price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
>company in half.

You have no doubt tortured the [mis]quote so strenuously that commenting
is self-defeating, but I will point out that monopolies are illegal
precisely because crap becomes the "best" and predatory pricing become
"the lowest price".

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:56:00 GMT

Said Martin Eden in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:41:32 
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JS PL says...
>>
>>As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality have
>>some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
>>Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
>>possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
>>
>>That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
>>prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
>>If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
>>price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
>>company in half.
>
>The problem is not that Windows or Office are bad software. They aren't. Windows
>and Office are both fabulous.

<*CHOUGH*>

>The reason Microsoft should be broken up is due to the fact that the corporation
>itself has become so large that it is possible for Microsoft to directly alter
>or disrupt the national economy.

No, they should be broken up because they refuse to recognize the
importance and validity, in both engineering and in commercial terms, of
the conventional "chinese wall", or of any other competitive strategy.
It has nothing to do with being large, it is a matter of being
anti-competitive.

>A group of unelected plutocrats in Redmond, Washington now have more real power
>at the disposal of their whims than the Congress of the United States.

You'd have to perform some abstraction errors on the concept "power"
before this really made any sense.

>Do you begin to get the picture now?

JS PL will never get the picture; it's a matter of his pride and dignity
at this point.  He's the kind of guy who is compelled to yell "jealousy"
whenever anyone even mentions that Bill Gates [was] the richest man in
the world, and all of his wealth came from criminal activity.

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:55:41 GMT

>>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:

   Donovan> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:20:45 -0700, jet wrote:
   >> 
   >> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
   news> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >>> >
   >>> > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
   >>> >
   >>> >    >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
   >>> >    >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
   >>> >
   >>> >    Aaron> Nope.  Paternity is still judged on English common law:
   >> whoever
   >>> >    Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
   >>> >    Aaron> otherwise.
   >>> >
   >>> > Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
   >>> 
   >>> Common law doesn't have cites, you idiot.
   >> 
   >> You're the idiot. You were asked to name a state that has a law like that.
   >> Can you?

   Donovan> It's common law, and it's applicable in all states. Hint: type 
   Donovan> "presumption of paternity" into google. Or try "Mansfield
   Donovan> rule". Allow me to assist you ...

   http> www.peak.org/~jedwards/paternity.html
   Donovan> ====
   Donovan>       Presumption of paternity To make things simple, individual
   Donovan>       states have developed a set of circumstances or tests that,
   Donovan>       if met, automatically presumes paternity. The most common
   Donovan>       circumstance is known as the Mansfield Rule.  Basically,
   Donovan>       this rule states that if a child is conceived within
   Donovan>       marriage, the husband is presumed to be the father. Since
   Donovan>       this presumption is not always true, some states have
   Donovan>       introduced "milkman" legislation to challenge or rebut this
   Donovan>       presumption.
   Donovan> ====

The issue is not the presumption, but rather the right of the alleged
father to dispute the presumption via a DNA test.

Mr. Kulkis has claimed that no state allows that without the mother's
permission.  I do not believe him.


-- 
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4  are      
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:55:38 -0400

billh wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> 
> > > > OK, since you claim to be full of knowledge and wisdom, please explain
> > > > how a C-5 can be classified as a strategic lift aircraft, while a
> > > > C-130 is not....given that the effective range (with refueling)
> > > > of both aircraft is "anywhere on the globe"
> > >
> > > You are truly an idiot.  The C130 refuels in-flight simply so it can
> > > self-deploy.  I've posted the USAF's official site.  Use it and learn
> > > something, wannabe.  If you'd prefer, I can easily provide you with
> > > telephone numbers to USTRANSCOM or to the USAF Air Mobility Command.
> Quit
> > > embarrassing yourself.  It's pathetic.
> >
> > Equipment is frequently pressed into service for which Congress
> > never originally intended it to be.
> 
> You're an idiot, Kulkis.  This is pathetic and doesn't change the fact that
> you are ignorant, at best, when you claim the C130 is a strategic airlift
> asset.

*CAN* it perform strategic airlift?
a) no
b) yes


No more questions, your honor.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support   from...non-fathers.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:58:02 GMT

>>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:

   Donovan> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:56:21 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
   >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   >> Wednesday April 25 11:04 AM ET
   >> Non-Biological Dad Must Pay Support

   Donovan> [ article snipped ]

   Donovan> Why are you double-posting this ?

As it was irrelevant to Mr. Kulkis' claim that states
do not allow DNA testing without maternal permission in
cases of disputed paternity, the real question is why
post it once in the current context.

In another context of horrible legal rulings, it is
completely relevant.

   Donovan> Anyway, while the article is interesting, it's also worth mentioning that 
   Donovan> recourse one has to challenge "presumption of paternity" varies on a state
   Donovan> by state basis.

   Donovan> It appears that there is a move towards placing greater emphasis on DNA 
   Donovan> testing (as a means of challenging paternity) and I for one think that's 
   Donovan> a good move.

   Donovan> -- 
   Donovan> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ * 
   Donovan> elflord at panix dot com



-- 
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What percentage of open-source programmers are paid for working on 
open-source projects?
Date: 27 Apr 2001 09:59:54 -0400

I don't think anyone has such statistics.

I was paid while developing BRL 1, started BRL 2 on my own time, and am
now paid to maintain/improve it.

-- 
Bruce R. Lewis                          http://brl.sourceforge.net/
I rarely read mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:00:27 GMT

"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Aaron, you are a kook, but you do make some good points.
>
>So was Einstein.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and you're no Einstein.

Hope that helps.


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From: "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Microsoft hit new security 'level' :-)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:00:05 +0200


Ray Chason wrote in message ...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley) wrote:
>
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18516.html
>>
>>Roll on .net so that we can all let Microsoft look after our
>>valuable data. What a joke they are. :-)
>
>While this is a major gaffe on the part of Microsoft, I'm willing to
>be fair.  If a binary-infecting virus for Linux existed in the wild,
>this could in principle happen to Linux as well; and the usual bit
>about not being root would only mitigate the damage, and would be
>of no help at all if the infected binary was installed setuid root.
>
>Those of us who habitually compile from source would probably be
>unaffected.
>


You would think that MS would be able to compile their security patches from
source and thus avoid infection problems.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Neary)
Subject: Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:05:38 GMT

Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>When thieves were put in stocks in the public square, was that a sign
>that
>
>a) the citizenry had run out of rational arguments against theft
>or
>B) the citiznery had no tolerance for thieves.

You're equating using windows with being a thief. Possibly a
better comparison might be to describe windows advocates as victims
of the Helsinki syndrome - they have been held hostage for so
long by MS that they now feel an empathy with them. the only way
to help these guys out is to show them the error of their ways -
to nurse them out of their shells and show them that there is a
better way.

Of course, both analogies might be completely inappropriate.
Maybe the trolls (on both sides) really are just purely
malicious. But if they're malicious it's for the same reason the
flamers are - and that's out of ignorance (in the sense of lack
of knowledge) and, quite frankly, a lack of respect for others,
or manners.

Dave.

-- 
David Neary,               E-Mail dave.dot.neary.at.palamon.dot.ie
Palamon Technologies Ltd.  Phone +353-1-634-5059      


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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kookis: over 340 posts in 6 days!
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:14:52 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter) wrote:

>Dunno, but chrisv the infamous Wintroll is well on his way to
>equaling Aarons posting score,but the main difference is that Aarons
>are entertaining, yours arent.

Wow, two lies in one sentence!  Is that the only way you feel you can
win?

The occasional opinion that you don't like does not make one a
"Wintroll", something which in fact I am clearly not.  In fact I'd bet
the farm I've posted more anti-MS posts as anti-Linux.  Also, I am
clearly NOT "on my way to equaling Aaron's posting score."


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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Primary and secondary missions
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:16:52 -0400

chrisv wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >yes, your only TRUE purpose is to pass your
> >DNA on to the next generation
> 
> That's secondary to just getting laid.  8)

No, you have it backwards.  Propagating DNA is the primary mission.
Getting laid is merely a supporting operation.


You remind me of the MP sergeant who was upset because a convoy of
ammunition wasn't ready to ship, because nobody could inspect it in
the midst of a raging sandstorm.

She forgot that the PRIMARY mission was to move convoys, and that
her mission (to ESCORT the convoy) was the dependant mission.

She considered her mission (escorting a convoy) to be the primary
mission, and that it was the other unit's obligation to to generate
enough convoys to keep her people busy.



The exchange went something like this:

MP Sergeant: "Why isn't that convoy ready to go?"
PFC Kulkis: "Sergeant, do you see that sand blowing around out there?"
        "When that sand is blowing, I can't inspect the cargo on the
        all of those flatbed trailers for biological contaminants.  And
        if I don't inspect the cargo for biological contaminants, I
        can't sign these certification slips and attach them to the
        cargo pallets.  And if those pallets don't have these slips
        on them, they will NOT be loaded onto any ship bound for
        West Germany or the United States. And if those pallets can't
        be shipped to West Germany or the United States, then that
        convoy doesn't leave this base"

The sergeant turned around and went back out into the sandstorm.


When I returned back to our quarters that night, our Company commander,
Captain Karp, told me about a phone call he recieved.  Apparently,
the sergeant I talked to was the NCO in charge of the MP escort
for that convoy of trucks...and she wanted to COMPLAIN to Captain
Karp that PFC Kulkis was disrespectful, and insolent, and all kinds
of mean and horrible things.  Captain Karp continued...
"And I asked her, 'did PFC Kulkis *really* say that?"
 'Yes sir, he did!'
 'Well, sergeant, I suggest that you pay attention to what PFC Kulkis tells you,'
And with that, I concluded my conversation with the sergeant."





-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Primary and secondary missions
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:17:07 -0400

chrisv wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >yes, your only TRUE purpose is to pass your
> >DNA on to the next generation
> 
> That's secondary to just getting laid.  8)

No, you have it backwards.  Propagating DNA is the primary mission.
Getting laid is merely a supporting operation.


You remind me of the MP sergeant who was upset because a convoy of
ammunition wasn't ready to ship, because nobody could inspect it in
the midst of a raging sandstorm.

She forgot that the PRIMARY mission was to move convoys, and that
her mission (to ESCORT the convoy) was the dependant mission.

She considered her mission (escorting a convoy) to be the primary
mission, and that it was the other unit's obligation to to generate
enough convoys to keep her people busy.



The exchange went something like this:

MP Sergeant: "Why isn't that convoy ready to go?"
PFC Kulkis: "Sergeant, do you see that sand blowing around out there?"
        "When that sand is blowing, I can't inspect the cargo on the
        all of those flatbed trailers for biological contaminants.  And
        if I don't inspect the cargo for biological contaminants, I
        can't sign these certification slips and attach them to the
        cargo pallets.  And if those pallets don't have these slips
        on them, they will NOT be loaded onto any ship bound for
        West Germany or the United States. And if those pallets can't
        be shipped to West Germany or the United States, then that
        convoy doesn't leave this base"

The sergeant turned around and went back out into the sandstorm.


When I returned back to our quarters that night, our Company commander,
Captain Karp, told me about a phone call he recieved.  Apparently,
the sergeant I talked to was the NCO in charge of the MP escort
for that convoy of trucks...and she wanted to COMPLAIN to Captain
Karp that PFC Kulkis was disrespectful, and insolent, and all kinds
of mean and horrible things.  Captain Karp continued...
"And I asked her, 'did PFC Kulkis *really* say that?"
 'Yes sir, he did!'
 'Well, sergeant, I suggest that you pay attention to what PFC Kulkis tells you,'
And with that, I concluded my conversation with the sergeant."





-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4  are     liars.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:20:29 GMT

"billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>"Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
>> Your problem, Bill, is that you are utterly uncreative when it comes
>> to matters where maximum creativity counts.
>
>Is that what you call your lies and your BS excuses and cover you use when
>you are proven wrong?  I've never heard of that definition of "creativity"
>before.

That was a very transparent scramble from Kookis, wasn't it?  Typical
from him, twist and writhe in the wind any way he can to avoid the
obvious.

You're  wrong, Kookis.  Be a man and admit it FOR ONCE.


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