Linux-Advocacy Digest #56, Volume #34            Mon, 30 Apr 01 12:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities (Dave Martel)
  Re: there's always a bigger fool (turtoni)
  Re: Primary and secondary missions ("Scott D. Erb")
  Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: IE ("Michael Pye")
  Re: IE ("Michael Pye")
  Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4  are        ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7) ("Dave Rhodes")

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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:39:16 -0600

I was just browsing <http://www.aaxnet.com/topics/slicense.html> and
came across this little tidbit:

"Note: OEM Windows licenses (the ones that come with a new computer)
are not transferable. When you stop using that computer, that Windows
license must be retired. You cannot use it with the new computer you
just bought, or any other. If you give the computer to a charity,
Microsoft requires they remove Windows, making the computer
essentially worthless."

IMO removing Windows increases a computer's value, but we'll put that
aside for now. <g>

Also there was this:

"If you got your computer with an OEM license, but you "ghost" the
hard disk as most larger companies do to achieve consistency, you have
to buy a second Windows license for that computer. Installing this
second license voids your OEM license so the OEM no longer provides
support. You now have to get that from Microsoft at $350 per
incident."

The bottom of the page has some good links concerning licensing
hassles.

Here's another good laugh, courtesy of our muck-racking friends at the
Register:

<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18589.html>

"Microsoft may not have succeeded in persuading OEMs and system
builders to "decline politely" all perverse requests for PCs lacking a
pre-installed (preferably Microsoft) OS, but it's shifted to a new
approach. It's now bribing system builders to turn in anyone who bids
on naked boxes, ostensibly so it can harass these poor, twisted madmen
directly from Beast Central."

<snip>

"The glittering booty on offer is five Microsoft game titles for
grassing out a bidder on 250 machines; that plus a Fossil Big Tic
watch for 500 machines; and those plus a Fast Cook and Grill Combo and
Travel Chair for 1,000 or more."



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From: turtoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: there's always a bigger fool
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:54:06 -0400

Nomen Nescio wrote:
> 
> t. max fagass:
> > Said Zippy in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 30 Apr 2001 05:42:20 GMT;
> > >this is a matter of opinion and speculation, not what anybody "knows about
> > >computing." if you think splitting up microsoft is going to harm them, or
> > >end their predominance in the computer world, YOU haven't learned anything
> > >about monopolies.
> >
> > Your ignorance is almost preposterous, I'm afraid.  If there is
> > something you don't understand about how the split will restore
> > competition, I'll be happy to explain it to you, but you have to ask
> > questions, so I know where you're getting hung up.  I would suggest that
> > its likely to be this idea of "end their predominance of the computer
> > world".  It is the free market competition that will result from the
> > remedy, not the remedy itself, which is going to take care of that.
> >
> > If you don't understand why, it is certainly because you do not quite
> > understand what "free market competition" means.
> 
> free market competition means that microsoft should be able to sign any
> contracts they want, including contracts preventing those they deal with
> from selling or promoting competing systems.
> hth
>                         jackie 'anakin' tokeman

that's something stalin & verizon would say.

turtoni - IBM wept.
 
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell

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From: "Scott D. Erb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Primary and secondary missions
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:40:13 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Nomen Nescio wrote:

>
> in the great battle between socialism and capitalism which side were
> social darwinists on?
>
> a. the winning side
> b. the losing side

That question is logically flawed.  First, there is no great battle between
socialism and capitalism; rather, there is a meeting in the middle between
the two, with mixed systems evolving as both extremes are rejected.
Second, Social Darwinists have been on the losing side on many of these
issues -- early Social Darwinists wanted no social welfare system because
they felt it would weaken the "race" or the national society by allowing
the poor to breed more easily (assuming they were poor out of some kind of
inferiority, which was obviously false), and Hitler's brand of social
darwinism went down in blazing flames.

Social darwinism is really speculative, simplistic, and lends itself to
misuse and misinterpretation.  I have not seen any reason to take social
darwinist arguments seriously.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles
Subject: Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 30 Apr 2001 15:56:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>>>>>> Goddess  writes:
>
>   Goddess> "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>   news> 9cbajs$3f9u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>   >> > > > >Barbie dolls didn't stop me.
>
>   >> > > > Personally, I wonder who the dumbass was who programmed in the
>   >> > > > "Math is haaaaaaard" into them at one point.
>
>   >> > > I don't see the problem with that. So what if math is hard? It was
hard
>   >> > > for me at times. I think taking that away sends a worse message:
girls
>   >> > > can't do or shouldn't attempt hard things.
>
>   Goddess> I can agree with that.  Most of my friends (boys AND girls) found
math hard.
>   Goddess> I didn't though.  I did help them with their homework.  But yes,
math, for
>   Goddess> most people is indeed hard.  My husband teaches math and he knows
that most
>   Goddess> find it very hard.  Some work at it even if it's hard to do and
most don't,
>   Goddess> even boys.
>
>I think that is because they are told it is hard.  It is a cultural
>message.  But it is no harder than any other subject.  
>
i think one of the blockades that children have to math is that math books are
not written in english and we do not first teach the 'language' of math
before we begin teaching the theories and applications.

>
>-- 
>Andrew Hall
>(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)


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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:01:21 GMT


"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9ci78v$bnu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:z70H6.46360$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > If CP/M had won, MS would not have had an OS base
> > to erode; Windows could have wont hem such a base.
> >
> > It would have been a good idea. A second chance to
> > beat CP/M.
>
> And *no* 9x!!!
> What a *sweat* idea.

I'm afraid that the alternate-history Windows 95
would probably be just as much a hack as the
one in our own time-line.

It would just be hacking CP/M instead of
MS-DOS. They aren't all that different.

There are plausible ways to get a different
OS in top of the heap in the early 90s, but
having CP/M beat out MS-DOS really
doesn't change much.




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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:01:22 GMT


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Daniel Johnson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 29 Apr 2001
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>    [...]
> >> I think you are mistaken in ignoring the impact of Microsoft
> >> force-bundling Windows with DOS, the very behavior that MS signed a
> >> consent decree to avoid ending up in court.
> >
> >Did they get one about that?
> >
> >Anyway, I didn't ignore it: I observed that it would have
> >been possible even if CP/M had won out. It would have
> >been a little more awkward, but the basic strategy of
> >promoting Windows into a 'full' operating system would
> >still have worked.
>
> "Theoretically" possible, but you only believe this theory because you
> are trying to discount their illegal activity to ensure that they didn't
> have to be so 'awkward' as to have to compete.

Or perhaps the only reason you believe DOS's success to have
been crucial is that you can't bear to believe that consumers
prefered Windows way back in '91.

Still, consider that the facts of the matter don't really
depend on our reasons for believing in them.

> >They'd have needed their own CP/M clone or something
> >more elabroate- but that's clearly not a big problem.
>
> No, it's simply non-sensical.  DOS already was in many respects a CP/M
> clone.

Exactly. That's why I say it is "clearly" not a big problem; they
managed to do it historically.

They would have had to make a closer copy if CP/M had
succeeded, but Digital Research was able to do that to
MS-DOS, so it's hard to see a reason MS could not have
done it.

The same strategy that worked historically would have
worked had CP/M been the winner in the early 80s. We
would have had CP/M/Windows for a while, that's all.




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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: IE
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:53:57 +0100


"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

> It is, however, a problem that is shared by a surprising number of
> people.

I wasn't aware of that...

> Oh, yeah, that'll do a lot of good.  They only guarantee 9600 bps in the
> tariff.  It isn't as if I can threaten to take my business elsewhere
> either.

Ouch. I though all was fine and dandy on the telecoms front if you lived in
the US. Seems we have a better deal sometimes after all...

> Six on my line.  It actually took fifteen or twenty after accounting for
> DNS delays and such.  Still, that's perfectly acceptable.

Hmm. The delays before the page starts to download fluctuate fairly widely
depending on the network load and your local DNS database. I don't ever wait
20 seconds for a page even if it is never visited before. And that includes
my own site after I have cleared the cache.

> A lot of sites seem to have lots of little GIF spacers to make things
> line up.  Or they use lots of little images in a table to put together
> some elaborate sidebar or whatever.

Spacers aren't a problem, they are all the same 1x1 pixel transparent gif,
but streched with different width and height properties. The tables with
bits in all the corners can get ridiculous though...

> Yes, they look fine and are easier to code as well.

The only problem is that it is another kind of user selectivity. Coding the
alternatives and detection routines takes time because there is no actual
request you can make for available fonts on a client's machine. You have to
use two hidden paragraphs, one written in the default font and the other in
the font you want to use. You can then check the width of them. If they are
the same width then the font you asked or is unavailable and the browser as
reverted to it's default. Very complicated and not very elegant coding...

The new embedded font standards are a possibility, but they depend on a new
enough browser.

> Which is another reason to write pages that do not need it.

The only thing that really irks me is that it should be the job of the
browser companies to write products which are good enough not to need it.
I'm not talking about cutting edge flashy shit here, NS4 does not support
some very simple things.

> I've written my share of elaborate code, believe me.  Keeping
> everything simple can result in not quite meeting the spec, so it is
> not always possible.  Things should be as complicated as they need to
> be, but not more than that.

Yes, but it is also improtant to realise that CSS isn't C. I don't make the
code any more complicated than it needs to be to meet my visualisation of
the page, because that causes silly problems like page bloat.

> It seems that a large number of companies and their web designers don't
> understand this.  They appear to think that a web site is like a
> brochure or an advertisement.  It shouldn't be in most cases.

Well, it depends what sort of company you are and what sort of product you
market.

> Just so you know, I do not claim to be a web designer.  Whatever look my
> web site has is purely based on not wanting to spend much time on it.
> My real job is writing software for embedded systems.  I'm an engineer
> by training.

I read enough of your home page to gather that, but you do seem interested
in the web and the content that makes it up...

> Ok.  Have a good week.

Cheers. You too. Or a productive one if it is business...

MP



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From: "Michael Pye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: IE
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:55:48 +0100


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> Well, you've well justified that point from your perspective, I gotta
> say.  Still, from mine, there's nothing better available.

You don't find NS4 clumsy, poorly presented, high on memory usage or slow to
load? Those were my complaints as a user on a 200MHz machine with 48MB of
RAM...

MP



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Importance, or lack, of Marketshare?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:05:01 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> > The true value of an education.
> >
> >
> > Mafia$oft's greatest assets are ignorance and stupidity.
> But fortunately, history will repeat itself.  Remember back in the dark
> ages when books became more wide spread, and people began to read, and
> become educated, the ending result, the church no longer had the strong
> grip on society it once had.  As users become more knowledge-able, people
> will start to question Windows, and become bored of its limitations. Users
> will then look for alternatives, and there, waiting in the side line will
> be Linux, an OS that users can keep on learning, expanding, customising to
> what ever they want it to be.  There are no limitations. I have been using
> Linux for around 4 years, and I am still learning new things, thus, it is
> an exciting OS to use and it is always improving.

True.  I've been using Unix for 18 years, and am still learning more and
more powerful ways to do things



> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> --
> Disclaimer:
> 
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> 
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> 
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> 
> The best of German engineering, now in software form


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:05:56 -0400

theRadical wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:06:13 -0700, Gunner © <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:44:29 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Mathew wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > "Gunner ©" wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:31:15 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >>> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >> >
> >>> > > >> >ANYBODY who seeks to enslave others sacrifices any claim to his own life.
> >>> > > >> >
> >>> > > >> >Hope that helps.
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >> which means soooo [sic] much coming from a fucking idiot twat such as
> >>> > > >> yourself.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >Gonna come say that to my face?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > WEEEEE! I get dibs on the video rights!  And we can split the fee when
> >>> > > we send numbnuts body to a medical school.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Aaron... try to draw it out as long as possible, so we can see lots of
> >>> > > his blood and hear the sounds of breaking bones.. Ive already got a
> >>> > > buyer for the master tape.
> >>>
> >>> This is illegal,I hope you know.
> >
> >What is the fact its illegal have to do with it? Attempting to destroy
> >the Constitution is illegal as well..but I see cases of it ever day on
> >the net.
> 
> yes, yet you are the one who accuses others of low character while
> saying "if someone else does something, i can do it too."  thanks
> again for pointing out the hypocrisy that rules your life gun nut.

Nice Hypocrisy you have there, treasonous bastard.


> 
> >Besides.. I can make you sign a waiver that says you are
> >undergoing every bit of it voluntarily.
> 
> i don't think so.
> 
> ><EG>  Wanna bet you wont sign?
> 
> more idle threats from a right wing gun nut.
> 
> >
> >Gunner
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>Get a grip, fascist wanna-be.
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > Weenie wouldn't dare show his face in Detroit.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Gunner
> >>> > >
> >>> > > ""The greatest evil is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and 
>minuted)
> >>> > >  in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices...like the
> >>> > > bureaucracy of a police state or a thoroughly nasty business concern."
> >>> > > C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> >>> > Unix Systems Engineer


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4  are       
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:08:44 -0400

krasus wrote:
> 
> "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:L1xG6.527$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Gunner ©"
> >
> > > > The C130 does not perform strategic airlift as it is not designed
> > > >to.  You can not name an instance where it has performed strategic
> > airlift.
> > > >Continue your waffle, wannabe.  We like to see you dance.  You are
> > pathetic.
> > > An Loc
> > > Mactan
> > > A Loui
> > > Khe Sahn
> > > Katum
> > > Gulf War
> > >
> > > right off the top of my head
> >
> > Not a one was strategic.  They were all intra-theater tactical airlift.
> Are
> > you saying the C130s in these operations airlifted cargo inter-continental
> > to the AOR.  The strategic lift for the Gulf War was deployment and
> > sustainment sealift from SPOEs and airlift from APOEs using C141 and
> > commercial jet liners.
> 
> Your idea of strategic is screwed up - you seem to think in terms of
> distance only.

Which is why, even as a mere PFC, I had a better understanding of
war than disgraced, ex-officer Bill here.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Dave Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:09:26 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>> I prefer the GPL and LGPL because I believe that copyleft tends to
>> maximize freedom in the imperfect world in which we currently live.
>> 
>> However, it does bother me that the *BSD folks can't use this code as
>> readily as they should be able to.  Consequently, if asked to release
> 
> They can.  All they have to do is quite trying to act like the Unix
> equivalent of a Central American junta.

Can't you at least trim the posts when you make these witty comments?

The BSD and GNU licenses are in conflict with each other in some
important ways.



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