Linux-Advocacy Digest #66, Volume #34            Mon, 30 Apr 01 18:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy. (Chad Everett)
  Re: MIcrosoft: Words, denial and WTF! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Microsoft and McCartheism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Intel versus Sparc (mlw)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
  Re: Microsoft and McCartheism ("Jon Johansan")
  Re: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities (Peter 
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
  Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
  Re: Microsoft and McCartheism (Chad Everett)
  Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux (Terry Porter)
  Re: Microsoft and McCartheism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux (Terry Porter)
  Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux (Terry Porter)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Rick)
  Re: The upgrade (WesTralia)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Quantum Leaper")
  Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux (Terry Porter)
  Re: Microsoft and McCartheism ("Edward Rosten")
  Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7) ("Edward Rosten")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Apr 2001 15:23:15 -0500

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 05:09:55 GMT, Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Everett wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:21:35 +0100, pip 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> pip wrote:
>> >> > We are not living in the dark ages. I had hoped we had progressed in our
>> >> > thinking.
>> >>
>> >> And this backs your claim that punishing malefactors = "running out
>> >> of rational arguments against their conduct" how, exactly?
>> >
>> >The only punishment that is given is the damage to the reputation of the
>> >Linux community. If that is rational then I am not.
>> 
>> The majority of foul-mouth, insulting posters in COLA are actually
>> Windows users, paid by Microsoft to do so.  Microsoft hopes that
>> by making linux advocates look as bad as possible, they can
>> turn others genuinely inquiring into Linux or curious about
>> Linux advocacy away.  Just as Balmer claims that Linux is
>> anti-capitalist and un-American, the foul mouth, insulting
>> posters on COLA want to make Linux advocates look anti-social and
>> deviant.
>
>Please tell me you're joking, you don't really believe this right?
>

No problem.  I was joking.  Kind of funny you had to ask though.


>I would love to be paid my Microsoft to flame on USENET (to flame *any*
>position). What could be funner than that, besides being allowed to
>count Bill Gates' money... unsupervised of course.
>
>> Don't confuse real, actual Linux users with COLA posters.  Most
>> professed advocates in COLA are actually Windows users....and
>> they know who they are.
>
>Oh God... don't even go there.
>

I tried to, but it was so crowded I couldn't get in.



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MIcrosoft: Words, denial and WTF!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:57:02 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> > I'm fed up with fucking parasites.
> 
> use anti-bacteria soap.  As for the feminist debate, who ever is pushing
> the extreme-feminists wheelbarrow, are only a small group out of a world
> population of 5 billion that don't share their views. So why get your
> pube's in a pickle over a small group of nutters?

Obviously, you don't have LAWS being written by these people.

In America, everything these nutters want gets incorporated into law.
Being a male in the United States, at the present time, is a high risk
proposition.


> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> Disclaimer:
> 
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> 
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> 
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> 
> The best of German engineering, now in software form


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:00:40 -0400

Brent R wrote:
> 
> Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> > If you're not un-American, then you have nothing to hide.
> >
> > Microsoft wants you to name names:
> >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18589.html
> >
> >    "While stopping just short of claiming that anyone buying
> >    a PC without an OS is a de facto criminal, MS obviously
> >    reckons that doing so would be outré enough to qualify
> >    one for suspicion, or referral to a shrink. After all,
> >    no sane person is going to muck up a perfectly good new box
> >    with BeOS or Linux or something freaky like that. Right? ®"
> 
> I'm getting a little sick of people posting anti-MS stories from the
> frigging Register. Everyone knows it's a biased site so it's usually

What's wrong with being biased against a DOCUMENTED, CONVICTED criminal organization?


> irrelevant what they have to say. I personally don't pay attention to
> them.



> 
> Please people, post from a sight other than the Register every once in a
> while.
> --
> - Brent
> 
> http://rotten168.home.att.net


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:09:05 -0400

mlw wrote:
> 
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > Said mlw in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:09:19 -0400;
> > >Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> > >> Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs!  After some
> > >> more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> > >> the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> > >> bad function was pushing an array of structures
> > >> onto the stack.  Looking at the size of the array,
> > >> found it was 64 Mb!
> > >>
> > >> At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> > >> was the cause of the trouble (not to mention the
> > >> dumb way of allocating/using such a large buffer).
> > >> The code had been originally developed on a SparcStation.
> > >>
> > >> So, be careful about thinking PC's are the best
> > >> things around, just because they are much more
> > >> powerful than they used to be.
> > >
> > >What you are talking about has nothing to do with the "Intel." It has to do
> > >with the operating system AND/OR the compiler.
> >
> > Well, the fact that it affects only operating systems and/or compilers
> > on Intel platforms seems to contradict your otherwise-valid observation.
> 
> I don't have this problem on Linux.

More info, let me 'splain.

[root@fubar mlw]# ulimit -a
core file size (blocks)     1000000
data seg size (kbytes)      unlimited
file size (blocks)          unlimited
max locked memory (kbytes)  unlimited
max memory size (kbytes)    unlimited
open files                  1024
pipe size (512 bytes)       8
stack size (kbytes)         8192
cpu time (seconds)          unlimited
max user processes          16383
virtual memory (kbytes)     unlimited

One can modify the stack size of a program with:
ulimit -s 65536

To get a 64 meg stack. (You may need su privileges)


-- 
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com

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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:04:56 GMT


"JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
[snip]
> > Microsoft has never offered volume pricing.  Saying "we will double the
> > price if you don't buy 120% of last years sales" to ensure that 100% of
> > systems have monopoly crapware is not a volume discount.
>
> Nice to see you have resorted to just making things up off the top of
> your head.

What do you mean "just"?

He's being doing that for years, hasn't he? :D




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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Date: 30 Apr 2001 16:05:02 -0500

Source: The Register.

Need we say more...

"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> If you're not un-American, then you have nothing to hide.
>
> Microsoft wants you to name names:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18589.html
>
>    "While stopping just short of claiming that anyone buying
>    a PC without an OS is a de facto criminal, MS obviously
>    reckons that doing so would be outré enough to qualify
>    one for suspicion, or referral to a shrink. After all,
>    no sane person is going to muck up a perfectly good new box
>    with BeOS or Linux or something freaky like that. Right? ®"
>
>



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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:38:52 +0200

Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> To my knowledge (and my OEM license doesn't say so) MS does NOT void the
> liscense if you give a machine to charity.  Just because someone writes
> it on a web site doesn't mean it's true.
> 

I think Erik is right there.
And in europe such a clause would be prohibited, it is unlawful.

Peter

-- 
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines


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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:51:17 +0200

Jon Johansan wrote:
> No, not at all, perhaps you misunderstood my "tone" - I expect my
> machines to do this too. What I do find shocking is that someone might
> leave a PC alone for years - in this day and age, updates are too
> inexpensive not to consider and the load always grows.
> 
Yeah, this is something totally unheard of in MS-land.
A server which just serves. Shocking !

Peter 

-- 
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably 
the day they start making vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Apr 2001 15:43:06 -0500

On 30 Apr 2001 16:05:02 -0500, Jon Johansan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Source: The Register.
>
>Need we say more...
>

So, are you saying it's not true?


>"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> If you're not un-American, then you have nothing to hide.
>>
>> Microsoft wants you to name names:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18589.html
>>
>>    "While stopping just short of claiming that anyone buying
>>    a PC without an OS is a de facto criminal, MS obviously
>>    reckons that doing so would be outré enough to qualify
>>    one for suspicion, or referral to a shrink. After all,
>>    no sane person is going to muck up a perfectly good new box
>>    with BeOS or Linux or something freaky like that. Right? ®"
>>
>>
>
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 30 Apr 2001 21:19:09 GMT

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:36:43 +1200, jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Soon I will be converting my Wife's Win98 machine to Linux, however saving
> all
>> her stuff has been painfully difficult.
>>
> 
> Don't worry, accidentally installing a server operating system over a far
> superior desktop operating system will surely make your wife feel all the
> better that you know SO MUCH more about computers than she does.

Only a Wintroll, would be so ignorant that they think Linux is a 'server'
operating system. 

In the Linux world, workstation and server are mutually inclusive. Linux
isnt Microsoft, with its 'pay because its a server' marketing hype.

As for my wife, shes never been under any illusions that Windows 
is 'easy' just because Microsoft tells her it is.

I doubt she will miss the slow downs, lockups and BSOD's of her 
'far superior desktop operating system'.

This 'far superior desktop operating system' of hers, has required 2 reboots
this week, and had one BSOD in that time.

> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
****                                                  ****
   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:23:25 -0400

Brent R wrote:
> 
> "." wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Chad Everett wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If you're not un-American, then you have nothing to hide.
> > >>
> > >> Microsoft wants you to name names:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18589.html
> > >>
> > >>    "While stopping just short of claiming that anyone buying
> > >>    a PC without an OS is a de facto criminal, MS obviously
> > >>    reckons that doing so would be outré enough to qualify
> > >>    one for suspicion, or referral to a shrink. After all,
> > >>    no sane person is going to muck up a perfectly good new box
> > >>    with BeOS or Linux or something freaky like that. Right? ®"
> >
> > > I'm getting a little sick of people posting anti-MS stories from the
> > > frigging Register. Everyone knows it's a biased site so it's usually
> > > irrelevant what they have to say. I personally don't pay attention to
> > > them.
> >
> > > Please people, post from a sight other than the Register every once in a
> > > while.
> >
> > Please moron, spell 'site' correctly.
> >
> > -----.
> >
> > --
> > "Great babylon has fallen, fallen, fallen;
> > Jerusalem has fallen, fallen, fallen!
> > The great, Great Beast is DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!"
> 
> Have you been taking USENET lessons from Kulkis?
> 
> One of the first signs of an angry 30-something living in his mom's
> basement


I moved out of the house at age 17.
I have been a productive citizen since the age of 10
I owned oil company stock at the age of 12 (purchased with paper route money)
I've been in combat...have you?


>            is that he responds to flames by the twin combination of
> name-calling and petty nitpicking of spelling errors.
> 
> So you really don't have anything relevant to say and you're about as
> creative and insightful as that handle (".") you hide behind.
> 
> BTW I will now scrutinize each and every post I read of yours for
> spelling errors... or maybe I'll just save myself the grief and plonk
> you instead.
> 
> Idiot.
> 
> --
> - Brent
> 
> http://rotten168.home.att.net


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 30 Apr 2001 21:20:28 GMT

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:50:41 GMT, Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9cjihs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Don't worry, accidentally installing a server operating system over a far
>>superior desktop operating system will surely make your wife feel all the
>>better that you know SO MUCH more about computers than she does.
> 
> Have you ever actually used Linux? It certainly doesn't sound like it. 
> Ignorance is bliss, eh?

Ignorant Wintrolls certainly certainly give themselves away dont they ?
:)

> 
> ian.
> 
>  \ /
> (@_@)  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
****                                                  ****
   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 30 Apr 2001 21:24:35 GMT

On 30 Apr 2001 14:41:36 GMT, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Terry Porter posted:
>>On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:13:20 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>> Problem #1 no network neighbourhood icon. Although I set up
>>>> Samba easily on my Linux box, her pc lacked the above NN
>>>> facility. Could I restore it ...
<snip>

> My guess is that you, some time in the distant past when you
> didn't believe this Win98 box would be on a network, deleted the
> Network Neighborhood icon. If you do, it warns you that it cannot
> be restored.
My guess is that someone did that, or removed files necessary for the
'network neighbourbood' icon.

It certainly wasnt me, my Wife had that pc with Win98 installed
when I met her, and I dont use or maintain Windows pc's these days
(including hers), because frankly I cant stand the hoops one must
jump thru to do so.

> 
> However, that shouldn't have disabled the "Map Network Drive"
> function of Explorer which you might have used instead.
I'll have a look for it thanks :)

> 
> -- 
> Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *** One of your mules lost a bolt. Repairs cost you $50. ***


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
****                                                  ****
   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:28:31 -0400

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> > JS PL will never get the picture; it's a matter of his pride and dignity
> > at this point.  He's the kind of guy who is compelled to yell "jealousy"
> > whenever anyone even mentions that Bill Gates [was] the richest man in
> > the world, and all of his wealth came from criminal activity.
> 
> Sounds like typical envy to me. When you eventually abandon and denounce
> your socialist tendencies you'll see that a $40.00 OS which most users
> choose isn't all that bad.

Most users didnt --choose-- Micro$oft's OS's. And the price would be
much cheaper if there were competitoin in the retail INtel/clone
marketplace.

> When you decide to ever use something other
> than Window 9x to complain about Microsoft you shall be truly free. Look
> at me,  I'm using another OS to DEFEND MS and freedom of choice!
> 

Well, look at me. I use 2 OS's besides Windows to try to spread the word
of Microsoft mediocrity and criminality.

> Here's about 8140 links to get you started on your bonanza of choice in
> this free world.
> http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/

-- 
Rick

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From: WesTralia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The upgrade
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:23:17 -0500

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> jim wrote:
> >

> >
> > Unix is for Physics Majors and Chemistry teachers.
> 
> .........and everybody else who has better things to do than scare
> at a fucking blue screen with cryptic error messages about which you
> can't do anything anyways...
> 


Oh come on Aaron, are you telling me that after all these years
you still do not understand the message, "It is now safe to turn
off your computer"?

Is your Wintendo98 box just too much horsepower for ya?











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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:29:40 GMT


"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:08:24 GMT, Quantum Leaper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> > Simple,  the reason why alot of large companies settle a lawsuit is
because
> > it CHEAPER to settle than to go though with a trial and winning.
>
> MS took a $250 million charge against earnings as a result of the
> settlment with Caldera.

If they had gone to trial,  it could have cost them even more.  If Caldera
was in a WINNING position,  WHY did they settle?????  The $250 million was
the settle,  and other costs related to the lawsuit.   Unless you have an
itemized list of the costs or your on the inside of one of the companies,
its almost impossible to guess the settlement amount.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 30 Apr 2001 21:26:45 GMT

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:46:23 +0100,
 Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> 
>> Lyx beats Word ANY day of the week.  Granted, I'm biased, having done a
>> maths degree.  Ever tried putting equations/obscure mathematical symbols
>> into Word?
> 
> Ever tried writing a simple letter with Lyx. It's far easier with Word.

Your kidding ??
Lyx boots up faster, has templates, and prints exactly the way I want, no
missing pages or other supprises.


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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:31:36 +0100

> Please moron, spell 'site' correctly.

Have you got nothing better to do than post spelling flames?

-Ed



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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:33:32 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Craig Kelley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> >>    - The "init" mechanism.  (Linux distributions, sans Slackware,
>> >>    use
>> >>      SysV-style scripts in /etc/init.d/ or /etc/rc.d/init.d/,
>> >>      whereas
>> >>      *BSDs and Slackware lump all startup code together in a few
>> >>      scripts such as rc.local).  Most commercial UNIX flavors do it
>> >>      the SysV way, which when you think about it is superior.
>> 
>> Redhat seems to have decided that one isn't enough: it's got the whole
>> SysV init stuff and rc.loclc, rc.sysinit.
> 
> So does my AIX box.
> 
> Big deal.

True, it's no big deal. I was pointing it out, that's all.

-Ed



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