Linux-Advocacy Digest #137, Volume #34 Wed, 2 May 01 23:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (Bill Vermillion)
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (Terry Porter)
Re: Microsoft and McCartheism (Zippy)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Greg Copeland)
Re: Linux has one chance left......... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux has one chance left......... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The upgrade (Terry Porter)
Re: The upgrade (Terry Porter)
Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product (Terry Porter)
Re: To Aaron (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (WJP)
Re: How to hack with a crash, another Microsoft "feature" (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Performance Measure, Linux versus windows (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Microsoft hit new security 'level' :-) (Greg Copeland)
Re: A patchy patch for Microsofts already patched-up Outlook (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Linux has one chance left......... (T. Max Devlin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:26:13 GMT
In article <9cpmun$cpn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
BSD Bob the old greybeard BSD freak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.unix.advocacy Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I think VI and all the useless other editors ...
>> When you need an 'editor' vi is pretty good. But no end-user
>> should ever have to use an 'editor' when they need a
>> word-processor.
>Why not, Bill? (ed or vi) + troff == prettygoodwordprocessor
> (ed or vi) + TeX == prettygoodwordprocessor
Note that I said 'end-user'. And using troff and/or TeX is
requires skills more akin to programming than pulling down a menu
and choosing a font [with a a preview] and clicking on it.
>(Yeah, I know, we all grumble at ed, but I use it as an example.)
grumble grumble. I learned my regexp's on 'ed' as the first *ix
system I used had no vi. What a wonderful day when I got vi.
>The thought processes are markup rather than peecee WYSIWYG.
But a great many [if not the majority] of end users are peecee
WYSIAWYG [you left the A for ALMOST out of that :-)].
Real WYSIWYG processors are few and far between - and use things
such as postscript displays.
>They are too used to pointing and clicking, and don't think about
>how to approach the problem, first. Maybe the word processing point
>and click approach has ruined them.
They sometimes don't think a lot about what they write :-)
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:45:13 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "WesTralia"
>
> > > > I never claimed such. Food is class I.
> > >
> > > Okay KuKuNut. Tell us what the subclass of class 1 sussistence are.
> > >
> > > We all know that you'll ignore this due to your ignorance.
>
> > Aaron wont ignore your question. He just needs a little time to run
> > the phrase "subclass of class 1 sussistence" through 100 search engines.
>
> I hope he uses a spell checker. LOL!!!
I answered the question, LIAR.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:46:32 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> > > > I never claimed such. Food is class I.
> > >
> > > Okay KuKuNut. Tell us what the subclass of class 1 sussistence are.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Subclass A Air related supplies Individual Inflight Food Packets
> >
> > Subclass C Operational Rations B rats
> >
> > Subclass R Refrigerated Subsistance
> > Two Categories of Refrigeration
> > -- Frozen (must be kept at approx 0 degrees Fahrenheit
> > Frozen meals, etc.
> > -- Perishables (must be kept at approx 40 degrees Fahrenheit)
> > Fruits, vegetables, eggs, milk, etc.
> >
> > Subclass S Non-Refrigerated Subsistance
> >
> > Subclass W Ground Water (but only when delivered as a supply item).
>
> So you can learn.
Better than you'll ever imagine.
That's why, as a mere PFC, I was my battalion's liason to theater
headquarters.
Hope that helps.
> Surprise, surprise. Now go to AR 710-2, Appendix G so
> you'll learn to use Arabic numeral instead of roman numerals.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 03 May 2001 01:55:17 GMT
On Wed, 02 May 2001 22:16:32 GMT,
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9cn95p$qh5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
<snip>
>
>> : Setting up a home lan to share a broadband connection? Windows, couple of
>> : hours. Linux, good luck getting the NIC drivers to compile. How many
>>
>> I can do it in 5 min on mac os classic. Are you using this? If not, why not?
>> Cause it's old.
>
> With Windows setting up a cable modem and home network was easy. With
> Linux, two NIC's, one static, one DHCP and a firewall defeats it.
Only for you Pete, **you're** the one who had problems.
I have 3 nics, and a firewall, no problems.
>
> --
> Pete
--
Kind Regards
Terry
--
**** ****
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.
1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
Current Ride ... a 94 Blade
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zippy)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 02:02:52 GMT
too bad nothing on "the register" is ever documented or backed up by
substantial references of any kind.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
From: Greg Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 May 2001 21:04:31 -0500
You need to be A LOT more informed. This is a CPU function and has
NOTHING to do with the BIOS. When you disable it in BIOS, the BIOS
simple issues the needed instructions to turn it off. Likewise, any
OS during boot can choose to turn it back on. This was well established
by Intel when it first came out. In short, if you think you have ANY
protection by turning it off in BIOS, you have been horribly mislead. My
understanding is that even a properly written application could do this
(turn it on and back off) if it had proper permission to access the CPU.
Greg
"Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Greg Copeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > It's a hardware-based registration system. Perhaps they'll overlook a
> > > single hardware change, but I tend to change several things at a time.
> > > No use getting a bigger meaner video card if your MB & HD don't have
> > > the necessary throughput. Or at least, that's my excuse for buying a
> > > lot of expensive new toys all at once. :-)
> >
> > Can you say CPU Serial ID??
>
> Sure: CPU Serial ID disabled in BIOS. Hmm???
>
> >Change CPU, call in.
>
> Untrue completely. Just your FUD.
>
> <snip complete FUD and lies based on ignorance and fear>
>
>
--
Greg Copeland, Principal Consultant
Copeland Computer Consulting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 02:10:35 GMT
On 03 May 2001 01:39:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
wrote:
>Those who appreciate 'innovation' most probably, because there will also
>be about 5000 new or upgraded Linux apps over that 6month period.
>(based on 30 posted apps a day at www.freshmeat.net)
You mean 30 code fragments a day. I would hardly call half the crap on
Freshmeat programs.
>And for the 3 new compilers, we will probably have 3 new programming
>languages. Now thats progress.
Hey maybe SLRN will finally reach v 1.0.
Flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 02:12:27 GMT
And your posts are growing more and more obtuse by the day.
Do you ever actually say anything with all of those words you type in
or are they randomly generated by some LinoCrap babble program?
Flatfish
On Wed, 02 May 2001 22:37:48 GMT, T. Max Devlin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 01 May 2001
>>On Tue, 01 May 2001 11:03:56 -0400, pookoopookoo
> [...]
>>It should be a matter of clicking on an icon and changing between the
>>various dpi.
>>
>>I can't believe nobody has figured this one out yet because it would
>>eliminate at least 50 percent of the "Netscape fonts suck" messages in
>>the Linux groups.
>
>Your posts are a map of your ignorance, fishhead. It "should be"
>whatever way it is in Windows, right? And the fact that it is
>*Netscape* fonts that suck doesn't seem to register, eh?
>
>Look, we're SORRY it is not as good at fooling you into thinking
>computers are simple and easy as Bill Gates' rip-off is. There's no
>place like home, Dorothy. There's no place like home.
>
>If you can manage to make it back to the real world, perhaps you'd be
>willing to learn why it isn't necessarily a good thing to be limited to
>a single font configuration for the entire computer (except when it
>decides to do it different, as it randomly will) like in monopoly
>crapware. Windows is simply technically incapable of looking anywhere
>NEAR as good as Linux. The fact that this is often not pre-configured
>is simply because MS's illegal behavior makes it only possible for Linux
>to develop a market by maintaining the OEM and the OS developer as
>separate. Normally in a computer market, it doesn't work that way; in
>fact you'll find the situation unique to the PC world. Or should I say
>the monopolized market?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: The upgrade
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 03 May 2001 02:14:24 GMT
On Wed, 02 May 2001 21:54:49 GMT,
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>> > I had to _manually_ intervene as
>> > SuSE haven't learnt to do it correctly yet.
>> The way you say this, you seem to allude that some other OS's do this stuff
>> properly ?
>
> Yes.
>
>> That may be the case, but Windows is not one such example.
>
> Windows leaves the driver there, but doesn't make it visible to other
> apps. Linux leaves the driver but leaves it visible to other apps - only
> because there's no agreed standard there.
Please include a, <snip> when you cut my posts, because you have left
quite alot out.
>
> You tell me, which one gets it right? Windows does, as it works.
My experience leads me to disagree, Windows(95 & 98) can't even setup my
NE2000 isa nic cards in a working state, without manual intervention.
Linux finds them automatically, and they have worked first time, no
manual intervention across 4mobos and 3pc's.
>
>> > Mine worked.
>>
>> You swapped mobos and Windows booted up without and changes (ie safe mode) ?
>
> Windows booted and reinstalled everything. I didn't see any safe mode.
> After five reboots, it was working as before.
**reinstalled** ????
When you swap mobos with Linux, no **reinstall** is neccessary. Linux boots
up just like it did with the previous mobo.
Only one power on is needed after swapping mobos, and **NO** reboots with
Linux.
>
> --
> Pete
--
Kind Regards
Terry
--
**** ****
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.
1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
Current Ride ... a 94 Blade
** Registration Number: 103931, http://counter.li.org **
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: The upgrade
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 03 May 2001 02:15:24 GMT
On Wed, 02 May 2001 21:56:00 GMT,
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9cko4t$ee16v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>> What's gone wrong today - 2 well known wintrolls posting 'Linux is superior
>> to windows' messages.
Its a Wintroll common technique, confuse the enemy.
>
> That's because I'm not a wintroll.
Yes you are.
>
> --
> Pete
--
Kind Regards
Terry
--
**** ****
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.
1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
Current Ride ... a 94 Blade
** Registration Number: 103931, http://counter.li.org **
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 03 May 2001 02:24:58 GMT
On Wed, 02 May 2001 11:55:47 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >> Terry is off his medication again. He's been "gone" for a while so
>> >> they must have let him out again.
>
>> > Yeah, those hockey puck sized Prozac's are getting hard to come by.
>
>> Look at the Wintrolls foam, they're worse than Pirahna when they smell a
>> little blood.
>
> Then quit bleeding
It wasnonly a tiny scratch, but the Pirahnas are desperate, their shrinking food
supplies will soon have them eating each other.
> and put a Band-Aid on your juvenile attacking of people
You're not a 'people' Ubertroll, you're a time waster.
> with differing viewpoints.
Oh how fair minded you sound, but I'm not impressed at all, by your plaintiff
whining.
> Not to mention your incessant butt-munching of those who have more knowledge
> than you when they figure out what you're about.
Sadly you're not one of them Ubertroll, as your expertise is limited to the
areas of FUD, and emotive critisisms, none of which bother me in the least.
As a Wintroll, your current ranking is 50th.
>
>
>
--
Kind Regards
Terry
--
**** ****
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.
1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
Current Ride ... a 94 Blade
** Registration Number: 103931, http://counter.li.org **
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Aaron
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:27:41 +1200
Interconnect wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9cpmp9$nj4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> this year, the US government has allocated $19billion in farming
> subsidies,
>> would you regard this as free trade in action?
>>
>> Matthew Gardiner
>
> Also (among other things) they still have tariffs on lamb imports from
> Australia.
>
> Other protected industries include Sugar and Bananas.
>
> Free trade? *shrug*
>
Its called "free trade on the US's terms", aka, fuck everyone else, we are
going to use tarriffs and subsidies then bitch and moan because China does
the same thing!
Matthew Gardiner
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From: WJP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:30:34 -0500
On Wed, 02 May 2001 19:28:48 -0400, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
//snipped for brevity//
>
>I checked using xdpyinfo, and Xvideo was running, and it still wanted to
>use the Xshm extension. I probably need something else, though, such as
>dri/drm. My video card is a Sis 5597/5598 (which probably explains
>it). I'm using the Xfree 4.x development version from the cvs
>repository. All my other graphics animations seem to be pretty decent
>WRT speed in X, though, although that probably doesn't mean xine is
>going to give me decent animations.
>
This is an perfect example of why Linux is such a challenge to users
unfamiliar with the "lingo" of Linux. "xdpyinfo"? "Xshm extension"?
"dri/drm"? "cvs repository"? "xine"? Gosh, I wonder how many hours it
will take me to search through the "howto's" and "whereis's" and
"linuxdoc.org" to just understand this one paragraph. Whew!!
Definitly a challenge, to say the least!
YMMV
Regards,
Bill Powell
USAF/USA (Ret) Management Systems Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to hack with a crash, another Microsoft "feature"
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:29:34 +1200
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> This was *5* months ago.
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9cpb35$fkt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Yes, just when you thought Microsoft security couldn't possibly get any
>> worse, they pull out this little doosie:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18664.html
>>
>> Matthew Gardiner
>
But the news just keeps on truck'in. Had this been a Linux article, and the
patch had been out for 2 years you would have said, "see, see, I told you
Linux was un-secure", double standards in the purist form.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Performance Measure, Linux versus windows
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 02:31:04 GMT
Mikkel Elmholdt wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9cousk$ce4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Salvador Peralta wrote:
> >
> > > The manager of Microsoft Premiere Support at IBM wrote some simple
> > > timing routines and compared performance between 3 linux kernels and
> > > w2k.
> > >
> > > I thought people here might be interested in the measure:
> > >
> > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-rt1/
> > >
> > > Novel concept... a post about something other than guns,
> > > trollfeeding, and taxes in cola.
> > >
> > Quite an interesting yarn, whilst CVS'ing I had a small read, and yes, it
> > does contridict Microsofts so-called NT vs. Linux findings.
>
> I don't think so. All it does is to document the well-known fact that the
> Windows QueryPerformanceCounter() is implemented in a rather stupid way.
> What this call *ought to do* is retrieve the value of the Time Stamp Counter
> register using the RDTSC instruction (see
> http://cedar.intel.com/cgi-bin/ids.dll/content/content.jsp?cntKey=Legacy::ir
> tp_RDTSCPM1_12033&cntType=IDS_EDITORIAL#4.0.%20Using%20RDTSC%20Properly).
> For some obscure reason the NT/2000 designers chose some roundabout way to
> determine a suitable clocktick, layering the whole thing in the HAL
> (probably a legacy thing dating from when NT 3.x ran on pre-Pentium
> hardware). Some people have reported that QueryPerformanceCounter() can take
> over 1000 clockcycles to execute.
>
> The only amazing thing is that this IBM guy does not know the correct way of
> reading time ticks on a Pentium PC. In MS Visual C++ all you do is execute
> the following inline assembler:
>
> // read the Pentium Time-Stamp Counter (RDTSC)
> __int64 nTickCountNow;
> __asm rdtsc
> __asm mov dword ptr[nTickCountNow] ,eax
> __asm mov dword ptr[nTickCountNow+4],edx
>
> .. and you have the result in the 64-bit integer nTickCountNow.
>
> Mikkel
Thats a different test. Perhaps someone should write the Linux and
Windows assembly code and run that test. The difference may be smaller,
but it will still be there due to OS overhead.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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Subject: Re: Microsoft hit new security 'level' :-)
From: Greg Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 May 2001 21:31:07 -0500
I've got to tell you, your sig is one of the most worthless and annoying
that I have *ever* seen. Please stop. Plleeaassseeeee.......
Please.....
Greg
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
Greg Copeland, Principal Consultant
Copeland Computer Consulting
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A patchy patch for Microsofts already patched-up Outlook
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:34:48 +1200
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> Also months ago.
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9cpatg$fkt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> After Microsoft release the patch, they felt rather proud of their
>> achievement, funny enough, the patch is patchy, surprise surprise?
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18679.html
>>
>> Matthew Gardiner
>
Yet how many end-lusers actually upgrade/patch their installation of
Windows, very few. Need I use the example of a zdnet article that
mentioned how "great" the Windows update feature was, and the number of
people who didn't know about it (as shown by the number of responses)! the
icon in the start menu is sticking out like a sore thumb! how could some
one miss it? or does the statement ,"90% of lusers are complete and utter
morons" have a grain of truth in it.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has one chance left.........
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 02:34:41 GMT
Said . in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 2 May 2001 03:06:44 GMT;
>pookoopookoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Why would they care where the files came from as long as they were
>>> in the right format?
>
>> Right-O. That's what I do now. I just don't tell them and as long as the
>> keep NOT finding anything weird with my files and they separate correctly,
>> I'll be happy.
>
>>> In any case, be sure to keep using what pleases you.
>>> Sounds like you can afford it.
>
>> Whether or not I can afford it doesn't matter. I WANT linux, so I'm gonna
>> bitch and moan (and help whereever my skills can be useful) until we get
>> decent graphic design apps in Linux =)
>
>There are decent graphic design apps for linux. You're simply too brain-dead
>to find them.
>
>Honestly, linux is much better off without you. Please use windows.
Don't mind yttrx, Freddy. We're all on a bit of a hair-trigger around
here, and many of the Linux advocates are developers, not users, so they
don't have much patience for those who would like to see more
Linux-driven consumer PCs. If its got compilers, it's complete, as far
as they're concerned, because for them it is.
This is why market capitalization is so important, even for a "free"
operating system. We'll go find someone who wants to make some honest
profit off of us, once the monopoly is remedied.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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