Linux-Advocacy Digest #782, Volume #34 Sat, 26 May 01 03:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Back up in Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ouch! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Newbie Linux User Asks: ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux ("Les Mikesell")
Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:37:03 -0400
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2001 14:09:25 -0400, JS \\ PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have to say, Linux Mandrake 8 was looking real damn good. Support for all
> >my hardware (for once) easy set-up, even seting up networking and connection
> >sharing was painless. Good newsreader - Knode, pretty stable OS. I even
> >liked the fact that it stayed connected to the Internet when switching users
> >(unlike Win2K) I was actually contemplating using it much more often and
> >only using Windows for apps I need to use that aren't available on Linux.
> >But....
> >Well after half a day checking out the new XP OS, I have to say IT KICKS
> >MANDRAKE ASS!!
> >Internet connection stays when switching users! And get this - Applications
> >even stay open and are there (still open) when returning to that user.
> >That's just the tip of the iceberg. Of course the browser still kicks ass,
> >and copy and paste is still much much better between apps, as opposed to the
> >hit and miss copy/paste support in Linux. Ohh I could go on and endlessly
> >list how much better XP is than Mandrake. Once again the Linux community is
> >playing catch up to the industry leader. Competition at it's finest!
> >Thank You.
> >
> >
>
> Can I setup Windows XP at home so that I can log into it via ssh and have
> a server running that acts as a proxy web browser, allowing me to
> browse the web from my machine at work over an encrypted channel and
> bypassing the filters on my company's firewall? And do all this with
> out-of-the-box free software?
>
> Can I use Windows XP to redirect it's output over an encrypted network
> port so that I can run applications on my home machine from my machine
> at work, complete with GUI features? And do all this with out-of-the-box
> free software?
>
> Can I use Windows XP as a NAT server and firewall and allow the machines
> on my LAN to all share a single internet connection? And do all this with
> out-of-the-box free software?
>
> Can I use Windows XP as a software development platform with the software
> that it comes with, without the need to purchase additional software for
> lots of money?
>
> I can do all this and more with linux, for free.
And all at once, even
>
> With Windows XP, I'll even need to buy additional software to create
> professional documents, presentations, spreadsheets, and databases.
> I can do all this with Linux with out-of-the-box software.
>
> ....Oh...but I forgot.....now you can log in and log out of Windows XP
> and not kill your internet connection. Wow!
Mafia$oft...welcome to the 1960's.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:31:55 -0400
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >>Gamma rays will go through quite thick metal. I heard an alternative
> >>explanation to this recently (in a book called "The Physics of
> >>Vibrations and Waves"), which explains it from an entirely different
> >>point of view.
> >
> > It all depends on how "thin" or "thick" metal you have, the type of
> > metal
> > (e.g., lead vs. aluminium), and the energy (frequency) of the gamma
> > rays.
>
> Yep, true.
>
> >>The explanation is that at very high frequencies, the conductivity of
> >>metals decreases greatly, especially in proportion to the permiability.
> >>This increases the distance that a wave can propogate through the metal.
> >>
> > That's an interesting explanation - it definitly sounds sensible, but
> > I'm afraid it's getting a bit beyond my understanding, so I'll have to
> > take your word for it.
>
> It was a little hazy for me as well, since I haven't really covered EM
> waves in such depth.
>
> One of the lovely things is that in many things there seem to be two
> enirely different explanations for the same thing that are both correct.
Duality only kicks in at short wavelengths.
At least, i've never heard anybody discuss photons which correspond
to radios in the 300m wavelength region.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.) (u98ejr)(@)(ecs.ox)(.ac.uk)
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:39:47 -0400
Dave Mundt wrote:
>
> Greetings and Salutations...
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 12:03:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 25 May 2001 03:58:01 +0000, Richard Thrippleton
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>characters regardless? I know there's some reason for this, but it escapes
> >>me at this time. Any ideas?
> >
> >Because the most popular character-cell terminals (ANSI/DEC VT-xxx series)
> >have 80-column wide screens. You'll notice that if you use a terminal
> >emulator or the Linux console, that's what you'll get by default.
> >
> >(There was a time on Usenet when no one would need such a thing explained
> >to them. :-)
> >
> >--
> > Roger Blake
> > (remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
>
> Actually, it goes back further than that. The original
> Hollerith cards used for data input on the systems had 80 columns.
> Traditionally, the last four columns were used for a sequence number
> (have YOU ever dropped a box of 2000 punchcards without sequence
> numbers? I have...it only takes ONE time like that to scar a person
> for life).
> In any case...because of this physical limitation, the line
> length on early I/O equipment was set at 80 colums. Although this
> physical limit was fairly meaningless when we finally got to a point
> of terminals logged into a timesharing system, at least with IBM the
> early terminals buffered the input data and sent it TO the mainframes
> in 80 column images.
> The first time I ran into systems that supported more than 80
> columns on a terminal was the DEC VT-100 terminal...which did support
> 132 columns (as did the decwriter dot matrix printer/terminal).
> For what it is worth, there is a story about that Hollerith
> chose the size of the punch cards (7 and 3/8 inches by 3 and
> 1/4 inches) at the size of the dollar bills of the era. By using
> this size he would have had a huge collection of tools for dealing
> with large numbers of them. Other folks seem to feel this is
> nonsense, and, since Herman has been dead since 1929, we can't ask
> him.
makes complete sense from an engineering point of view.
Banks could make their money-handling machinery do double duty.
and large amounts of money-handler equipment was already in
the vendor supply channels.
> Regards
> Dave Mundt
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.windows.x.kde,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Back up in Linux
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:34:39 -0400
Investigator wrote:
>
> The short answer is "yes".
>
> More detail is needed, however, to explain the process.
>
> Importantly, you do *not* want to back up any draconian system (like Linux)
> while it is active with a full-bore "tar czf /dev/whatever/BACKUP.tgz /*"
This is true of ALL operating systems, including losedos.
We all know about registry sequence numbers, and the problems
they cause when you try to restory registry.dat.
> There are files which must be omitted from the archive, or reloading will
> cause unpredictable (specifically -- a system crash is the general
> prognostication) results. You will need an exclusion list for the tar to
> consider -- I know from experience <wink>.
>
> --
> _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/
> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Woody
> _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ He, who never tries,
> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ never fails.
> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
>
> "Jerry Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9elu8v$mg1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I used to backup the windows by Ghost software. In linux, can the command
> "tar" be used like Ghost. I means to backup the whole Linux system by tar it
> and restore it when necessary. I have windows98 and two Linux system in my
> PC (Red Hat 7.0 and Mandrake 8.0), so I can tar one of them when running the
> other.
>
> Is it possible? Please give me some advice.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> http://members.hknet.com/~wong63124
> (In Chinese Big 5)
>
> http://members.hknet.com/~wong63124/linux.htm
> (In English)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ouch!
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:43:35 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 01:48:04 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >Anonymous wrote:
> >>
> >> How can it be a crime to not report a
> >> bug?
> >
> >It's not.
> >
> >It's a crime not to report felonious activity.
> >
> >
> >Since Tony didn't want to play ball, I forwarded his stupidity
> >onto the local FBI office. They forwarded it to the internet
> >crimes division.
> >
> >I expect that Mr. Roth is going to have a lot of fun....
> >
> >considering how he indicted himself and everything.
>
> You REALLY need to get out more.
Waht part of "no coddling for phreak hackers" do you not understand?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Newbie Linux User Asks:
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:44:10 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 03:05:35 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >WJP wrote:
>
> >> AOL software "within" Windows. Does anyone know if there is Linux-based
> >> software which can be used to provide interface with AOL's software?
> >> Does Netscape for Linux have the AOL Instant Message capability?
>
> >i know you said you can't get them to switch...but try this:
> >
> >Get them to convert to cable modem
> >approx same price as telephone connection, and no phone tie-ups.
>
> I thought cable was unmetered?
correct. just like local calls in the United States.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 06:47:45 GMT
"Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9en1li$1rq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:oLlP6.6571$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > > If you bought bought Win2K just to run this spesific DLL...
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that is the sole purpose of 8 machines, replacing the 2
> > > > Linux/Apache boxes that used to do the same work. The
> > > > whole point of changing the servers was to utilize xsl formatting
> > > > of our xml data.
> > >
> > >
> > > U, that is very... unwise of you.
> > > There are plenty of XML/XSL formatting software around.
> >
> > Does that mean that even you think it was predictable that
> > the Microsoft product would have bugs and a large number
> > of unexpected and undocumented quirks compared to the
> > competition?
>
> No, this mean that to move to an unknown platform for the sake of one DLL
is
> not a good idea, especially when you can get the same thing on the
machines
> you already have.
> This mean that you could have gotten the mahcines you are familiar with to
> use a software that does what you need.
> It's XML, for crying out loud, it's not rocket science.
Oh, just changing technology wan't the point. The reason for the change
is that we generate the XML as a commercially available service and
wanted to use what we thought would be the most readily available
platform with the most familiar toolset for potential customers of the
data as a demonstration of the capabilities. At least that was the
theory of the since-departed project manager who started things down
that road.
The machines of course, are the same anyway - basic dual-CPU pentium
boxes. Since we are mostly a Windows development shop we
have many people who are supposed to know the system internals and
be able to do programming and troubleshooting while I handle most of
the Linux/perl/apache side myself.
> Take a look here:
>
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Data_Formats/Markup_Languages/XML/
> Sheets/XSL/ImpleStyle_mentations/
>
> > The real problem is that while xsl has been a standard for
> > around a year the formatters have not been available that
> > long and there is still no standard way to connect xslt
> > transformations to a spot in a web page. That means that
> > changing formatters involves a complete rewrite of the
> > web pages which no one has time to do.
>
> GUI is here for a long time, not standard way to do it either.
> Networking and threading too, and they are here much longer.
>
> If you've searched for other options for the platform you know, then you
> would not need to rewrite.
Almost every implementation would require a rewrite of the invoking
html pages, even if the xsl worked the same.
> Either that, or find a workaround, or wait for the fix.
That seems to be the story of Microsoft products in general. But for some
reason the Microsoft zealots like yourself never admit it until the proof
is undeniable. Why didn't you say that six months ago instead of denying
that there could be a problem?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: IBM to let Linux fans use mainframe--for free
Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 02:49:44 -0400
Roger Blake wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001 03:58:01 +0000, Richard Thrippleton
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >characters regardless? I know there's some reason for this, but it escapes
> >me at this time. Any ideas?
>
> Because the most popular character-cell terminals (ANSI/DEC VT-xxx series)
> have 80-column wide screens. You'll notice that if you use a terminal
> emulator or the Linux console, that's what you'll get by default.
>
no..it used to be that nearly all character-cell terminals were 80 columns
because Hollerith cards were 80 columns.
> (There was a time on Usenet when no one would need such a thing explained
> to them. :-)
indeed.
>
> --
> Roger Blake
> (remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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