Linux-Advocacy Digest #887, Volume #34 Fri, 1 Jun 01 06:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Anybody using iBCS on SMP kernel ("Vyacheslav Fedorov")
Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe ("jet")
Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe ("jet")
Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum: (Dan Pidcock)
Re: What does XP stands for ??? (The Xebot)
Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe ("Edward Rosten")
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
The price of commercial software: MS Clippy (Anonymous)
Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe ("jet")
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
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From: "Vyacheslav Fedorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anybody using iBCS on SMP kernel
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:19:04 +0300
Hi!
Sometime my foxpro (for SCO) run and lock linux on 2-CPU's
server Proliant 1600 with RH 6.1 kernel 2.2.12 .
When i do cat /proc/interrupts i see that working one
CPU only and process foxpro constantly running.
Command 'kill -9 pid.foxpro' by root do not operate.:(
Thank.
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:26:07 -0700
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jet wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > jet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > jet wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > chrisv wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >chrisv wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >chrisv wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> At least if I'm ignorant about something, I don't shoot
my
> > mouth
> > > > off
> > > > > > > > >> about it, unlike you, who likes to play "wannabe expert"
on
> > > > every
> > > > > > > > >> subject imaginable....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Wrong. I claim no expertise in numerous fields.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Okay, change "on every subject imaginable" to "on nearly
every
> > > > subject
> > > > > > > > which arises in this newsgroup, and in which most of, you
are
> > very
> > > > > > > > much out of your depth."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >For example hindi, farsi, chinese, and a multitude of other
> > foreign
> > > > > > languages.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wow, I'm really impressed. I'm surprised that you haven't
> > claimed
> > > > > > > > fluency in Chinese, then refused to provide proof (you'd
just
> > say
> > > > > > > > "jump"), just like many of your other claims.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Hope that helps.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It didn't. Your anal, literal interpretation of what I
wrote
> > just
> > > > > > > > made you look like an idiot bent on ignoring my point.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you saying that I should interpret your words in some way
> > > > > > > other than what you wrote?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do what you say. Say what you mean. One thing leads to
another.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You mean like you are going to take Steve Chaney to court like
you
> > said
> > > > you
> > > > > > would?
> > > > >
> > > > > There's no point in a libel suit against a man who no longer has
any
> > > > credibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > do the fucking math.
> > > >
> > > > So, we should have interpreted your words in some way other than
what
> > you
> > > > wrote.
> > > > And when you said "Do what you say, say what you mean" you didn't
mean
> > what
> > > > you said.Got it. :)
> > >
> > > I told him to stop spreading rumors, or I would sue.
> >
> > No, you said if he didn't stop saying you were kicked out of school for
> > cheating, you would sue. He said it again. You didn't sue.
> >
> > >
> > > By undermining his credibility, he effectively put a stop to his
> > > own rumor-mongering.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> >
> > No, because you said you would sue him if he said you were kicked out of
> > school for cheating again, not for "rumor mongering". He did. You
didn't.
> >
>
>
> A ***FOOLISH*** consistancy is the hobgoblin of small minds.
>
IOW, you didn't do what you said you would do.
>
> And by section (B) below, Jet, we already know that YOU are a fool.
>
Sorry loser, I'm staying right on topic.
J
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:29:37 -0700
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jet wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > chrisv wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> >Hope that helps.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It didn't. Your anal, literal interpretation of what I wrote
just
> > > > >> made you look like an idiot bent on ignoring my point.
> > > > >
> > > > >Are you saying that I should interpret your words in some way
> > > > >other than what you wrote?
> > > > >
> > > > >Do what you say. Say what you mean. One thing leads to another.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, but there's many non-literal forms of effective
communication.
> > > > Morons who simply pretend not to understand are not helpful.
> > >
> > > Translation: I, chrisv, am unable to communicate in a clear, effective
> > manner.
> >
> > So, when you said you were going to sue Steve Chaney, what did you mean?
> >
>
> ...IF he continued to spread rumors.
And he said yet again that you got kicked out of school for cheating.
> Since he destroyed his credibility, he could no longer spread rumors
> in an effective manner.
>
> hope that helps.
If you said you were going to sue him for "effectively spreading rumors",
you'd have a point. You said you were going to sue him if he said you got
kicked out of school for cheating.
Besides, one could not believe you are a crack whore, yet still believe you
got kicked out of school for cheating.
J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pidcock)
Subject: Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum:
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:37:28 GMT
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:30:03 +0100, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Routinely. (I'm doing this from memory, but this is close.)
>>
>> +------------------------------------------------+
>> +------------------------------------------------+
>> | Your program has crashed. Press OK to |
>> | terminate the program, CANCEL to debug. |
>> | |
>> | [OK] [CANCEL] |
>> +------------------------------------------------+
>>
>> Would it be too much to ask for them to put "Debug",
>> "Kill" (or "Terminate"), and "Wait" in there, instead
>> of OK and CANCEL??!
>>
>> Sheesh.
>>
>> Of course, in this case, it's not the user whose intelligence is in
>> question.
>
>OK, I'll agree that this is fairly cryptic (and NOT ok), but IIRC, the
>debug button only arrives if you have VC++ installed.
Well this is a standard windows MessageBox, and the buttons can only
be labelled in a few ways (OK, Cancel) (Yes, No, Cancel) (Abort,
Retry, Ignore) etc. This is a real weakness of the standard message
box but I suppose it makes internationalisation a tiny bit easier.
Dan
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From: The Xebot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does XP stands for ???
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 01:34:52 -0700
XP stands for Xillions in Profit, once they get their "software
subscription" model in place.
"Activation" lays the ground-work for MS being able to shut-down our
WinTel boxes at their will -- especially if we don't pay our yearly
tithe to MS. Watch for subtle changes to the MS EULA's, such as :
"Microsoft reserves the right to deny the use of it's software
(De-Activation) for any activity deemed inappropriate by Microsoft
Corporation."
I'm sure that that includes, but is not limited to, bad-mouthing Silly
Billy, or his favorite strip-club.
--
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(the Xebot) at:
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:42:32 +0100
>> Translation: I, chrisv, am unable to communicate in a clear, effective
> manner.
>
> So, when you said you were going to sue Steve Chaney, what did you mean?
>
> J.
Well, looks like he was bluffing. He's too yellow to follow through any
threats.
You never know, he might get one of his precious guns and shoot him.
-Ed
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:35:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bloody Viking wrote:
> Linux is an OS that appeals to techie types, not normal home users in general.
> The install can be a pain depending on equipment and distro used. At times,
> you get to play "hacker" with the install, like on a stubborn laptop. Being a
> Linux fan, I have to admit that it's not an OS for everyone, certainly not
> yet.
I think Windows is appealing to be a "yellow OS", just like "yellow
press".
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:26:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
drsquare wrote:
>
> On 31 May 2001 14:37:45 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shun Yan Cheung)) wrote:
>
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Bernd Paysan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>Ah, and BTW: Installing Linux with current distribution doesn't even
> >>give the slightest kick of "hacker achievement" as it did in Slackware's
> >>time.
>
> >Yeah, they have made it too darn easy to install Linux now...
> >For that matter, even Solaris installation has become too easy...
> >I used to dread OS upgrades, now I just pop in a CD and let it rip...
>
> Is it any easier than downloading it?
The boxed distribution setup, as known to many windows users, has become
_so_ easy. SuSE 7.1 even configures most printers automatically during
graphic setup, former PITA for many new users - there's not much that's
missing, is it? Let's wait another year, or half a year, it's gonna be
interesting.
Relating on the subject header: I think the beginning of the end was
when the Linux developers decided to have the system communicate to the
user in a different style, I mean the GUIed configs, setup and stuff:
The tone is different, it's friendly and explanatory. I found many of my
questions answered before even asked when I checked it out first.
Windows talks to me like TV ads on setup, claiming everything.
There's people who say their MSWin doesn't crash. Mine always did, 5-20
times a week. I worked around many problems switching between imaged
versions of my system. I learned to tweak it this way and that way, but
_nothing_ provided by the package itself helped me, it was all third
party products and information.
Now think of the "advertising" during setup again. The "information"
provided, the style, the f1-help, the install handbook. It's ridiculous.
But this is the "normal" user's door into computing.
I know, any system has to be maintained. But MSWin implies the opposite.
I think that Linux is not _that_ complicated at all, it's like read, ask
and learn for some months and then smile. It has it's pains, the thresh
is still too high for most users. But MSWin's pains are harder, they get
you unexpectedly, the put the blame on you and sell products to you.
(Does anyone know how many of the third parties , like documentation
providers, system tools and so on, are owned by MS? <ironic
class="half"> ...tactic?</ironic> )
It's convenient at first and shoots you in the back when you
_really_need it. (no, not the bullet, the OS)
I guess MS is going to lose many slightly advanced users. The XP
registration progress scares many european users, I don't know what it's
like in the US. The price is also a reason to consider migration to OSS
OS's.
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:27:57 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Franchuk wrote:
>
> Chris Morgan wrote:
> > This seems more damning than it really is - actually installing
> > Windows from scratch can be a mess too, it's just that most users
> > never have to.
>
> Ha! I bet all users have had to re-install windows at least
> once or fight the system installing new hardware or software.
True. Win95 on 31 floppy disks, darn.
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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 05:34:01 -0400
Subject: The price of commercial software: MS Clippy
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
One of the things I like about free software
is that since it is done on a shoestring budget
in most cases, there isn't time for the superfluous
junk like MS Clippy that's present in commercial software.
Just imagine the resources that were put into coming
up with MS Clippy.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6133676.html
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:57:59 -0700
Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f7khn$sno$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Translation: I, chrisv, am unable to communicate in a clear, effective
> > manner.
> >
> > So, when you said you were going to sue Steve Chaney, what did you mean?
> >
> > J.
>
> Well, looks like he was bluffing. He's too yellow to follow through any
> threats.
Yeah, it does look that way.
J
>
> You never know, he might get one of his precious guns and shoot him.
>
> -Ed
>
>
>
> --
> (You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.)
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:36:30 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Fox wrote:
>
> Ben Franchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Chris Morgan wrote:
> > > This seems more damning than it really is - actually installing
> > > Windows from scratch can be a mess too, it's just that most users
> > > never have to.
> >
> > Ha! I bet all users have had to re-install windows at least
> > once or fight the system installing new hardware or software.
>
> Unfortunately, they usually fail and call me for help.
I called the support hotline of my distro (SuSE) once.
-they didnt have one of those expensive "0180"-lines, as most
commercial hotlines in Germany do.
-they told me that my ditribution was out of date and so was my right
for support. Then they helped me solve my problems and asked me not to
call again.
I was amazed.
Did anyone have such an experience with a Microsuffe'd helpline? Ben?
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:42:38 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
longhaul wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 13:35:37 -0400, unicat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >The following are the editorial opinions of the author- no more
> >no less...
> >
> >While the bloated giant Microsoft is buying favorable publicity
> >in News-fluff magazines with promises of big chunks of
> >advertising for the X-flop video game, smart firms are realizing
> >the truth - Microsoft is in serious trouble.
> >
>
> This is all well and good for you techy's who understand computers. I
> don't. MSFT is user friendly to me. Sorry. Just my opinion. I hate
> to go counter with millstox but us non-techies owe our computers to
> MSFT.
You are right, nothing to be sorry about.
You'll be sorry enough soon, wait until it'll f### you up.
Work around the traps to avoid it, but it's not much less than learning
Linux.
I even think it's harder. But perhaps I am wrong, MSWin is so
unpredictable, perhaps your system is all fine?
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:48:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karel Jansens wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2001 19:39:08 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> >on Tue, 29 May 2001 11:29:13 GMT
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>Burkhard Wölfel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Name another *market* where a single *brand* is known to the common
> >>> > consumer. ONLY a single brand, and most people have never even heard of
> >>> > any alternative
> >>>
> >>> Polaroid
> >>
> >>Kodak <grin>.
> >>
> >>Kleenex.
> >>
> >>Puffs <grin>
> >>
> >>Coke.
> >>
> >>Pepsi <grin>
> >>
> >>Microsoft.
> >>
> >>Apple <grin>
> >>IBM <grin>
> >
> >Xerox -- although Canon, Ricoh, IBM, and others may be changing that.
> >But the word "xerox" -- meaning "duplicate via photoelectronic means" --
> >has passed into more or less common usage (presumably to Xerox's
> >intense annoyance).
> >
> >Microsoft should be so lucky. :-)
> >
>
> Who knows? Five years from now, the phrase "My computer just microsofted on
> me" might be the colloquial for BSOD. Bog knows it's almost there already.
>
People think it's normal for computers to crash.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Karel Jansens
> ==============================================================
> Give a man fire and he is warm for a day.
> Set him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life.
> ==============================================================
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