Linux-Advocacy Digest #893, Volume #34 Fri, 1 Jun 01 16:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum: (Fred K Ollinger)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the (Fred K Ollinger)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the (LShaping)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("DanM")
Re: The price of commercial software: MS Clippy ("surrender")
Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?] (Swapnil Bhatia)
Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What does XP stands for ??? (drsquare)
Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe (drsquare)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
(drsquare)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
(drsquare)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (drsquare)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (drsquare)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (drsquare)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
(drsquare)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (drsquare)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (drsquare)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (drsquare)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (drsquare)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (drsquare)
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:41:59 +0200
"Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 15:50:27 +0200,
> Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Thu, 31 May 2001 09:24:15 +0100,
> >> Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >> >
> >> > Ah I see what you mean. You mean control of windows. I had noticed
you
> >> > can drag around a window in Linux when its process is hung, something
> >> > you can't do on Windows. However, that's not a huge advantage. I have
> >> > seen you can kill a window on X but leave its process still hung and
> >> > running. I think the same is possible on Windows.
> >>
> >> If Windows had a native process display, then you would know.
> >>
> >> With Linux if an app hangs and its window is unusable, one can easily
find
> >> the process and kill it.
> >
> > Same in Windows, what is your point?
>
> Process id's are not available in Win95 or Win98, perhaps theyre avail
> in Win2k?
PID are available in Win2K, accessible via ctrl+shit+esc, and then changing
the settings of Task Maanger.
I think that they're available in 9x too, there just isn't any built in tool
that expose them to the user. WinTOP come to mind, though.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred K Ollinger)
Subject: Re: Rather humorous posting on news.com commentry forum:
Date: 1 Jun 2001 18:18:08 GMT
Edward Rosten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: > Routinely. (I'm doing this from memory, but this is close.)
: >
: > +------------------------------------------------+
: > +------------------------------------------------+
: > | Your program has crashed. Press OK to |
: > | terminate the program, CANCEL to debug. |
: > | |
: > | [OK] [CANCEL] |
: > +------------------------------------------------+
: >
: > Would it be too much to ask for them to put "Debug",
: > "Kill" (or "Terminate"), and "Wait" in there, instead
: > of OK and CANCEL??!
: >
: > Sheesh.
: >
: > Of course, in this case, it's not the user whose intelligence is in
: > question.
: OK, I'll agree that this is fairly cryptic (and NOT ok), but IIRC, the
: debug button only arrives if you have VC++ installed.
Really? I can debug pgrms with a default linux install. I thought that MS
has new features. Or does XP come with a c++ compiler and debugger? I
hope so, though I like linux, I also like competition.
Fred
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred K Ollinger)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the
Date: 1 Jun 2001 18:20:56 GMT
Rotten168 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: drsquare wrote:
: >
: > On Thu, 31 May 2001 10:31:46 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
: > ("Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
: >
: > >> Did the geniuses who wrote X consider Trackballs of varying designs when
: > >> they chose the 'middle button' cut & paste?? Probably not, because it's
: > >> very unwieldy for me and my Logitech trackball.
: >
: > >Did the geniuses who made your track ball build it with X in mind??
: > >
: > >Bearing in mind X was there first, the trackball makers seem to be at
: > >fault.
: >
: > Never mind that you can press the left and right buttons at the same
: > tiem for the same effect...
: No... that's what's unwieldy about it, pressing both the left and right
: buttons is too annoying to be used in a practical sense.
Get a mac, there's only one button as mac users believe that more than one
mouse button is too annoying to be used in a practical sense.
I like three button mouse just fine, but hey, what do I know. How many
buttons did the first mouse have? I think at least 3.
And why should poor design of a trackball be the cause of linux falling
off desktop. Linux users generally buy hardware that they know is good
b/c instead of falling for ad hype, they actually know how to get more
reliable info about their hardware.
Just another case of how windows dumbs down the users so badly that they
can't think for themselves.
Fred
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From: LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:27:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred K Ollinger) wrote:
>Get a mac, there's only one button as mac users believe that more than one
>mouse button is too annoying to be used in a practical sense.
>I like three button mouse just fine, but hey, what do I know. How many
>buttons did the first mouse have? I think at least 3.
I like to use a touchpad and the over one hundred buttons on my keyboard.
Ever play the arcade version of missile command? One huge trackball in
one hand and three nice clicky buttons under your other hand made for
extremely fast/accurate point & click action.
>
>Just another case of how windows dumbs down the users so badly that they
>can't think for themselves.
>Fred
Amazing. How Microsoft does that without even trying.
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From: "DanM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:42:25 -0400
Burkhard W?lfel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who here does have trpuble TOO writing his or her posts in a way
> EVERYONE can read them properly?
I have trouble reading many posts here. Why? People don't properly
edit them. They quote message after message within their replies.
This leads to giant messages containing multiple messages
at varying levels of indentation with a "No way your wrong" at
the end. Just quote the portion of the message you are replying
to. Not the whole thing.
You asked
Cheers
Dan
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From: "surrender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The price of commercial software: MS Clippy
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:33:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Anonymous"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote something like:
> One of the things I like about free software is that since it is done on
> a shoestring budget in most cases, there isn't time for the superfluous
> junk like MS Clippy that's present in commercial software. Just imagine
> the resources that were put into coming up with MS Clippy.
>
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6133676.html
>
> --------== Posted Anonymously via Newsfeeds.Com ==-------
> Featuring the worlds only Anonymous Usenet Server
> -----------== http://www.newsfeeds.com ==----------
actually I've seen such a feature in the gimp :-/
(I've only seen a screenshot, perhaps this 'feature' has already been
removed - let's hope so)
--
Greets,
surrender
--
$ apt-get moo
(__)
(oo)
/------\/
/ | ||
* /\---/\
~~ ~~
...."Have you mooed today?"...
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From: Swapnil Bhatia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?]
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:41:33 -0400
"Brian V. Smith" wrote:
>
> In article <LuuR6.242965$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan Murrell"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |> > How do they actually apply this levy? I mean, how do they know Mr Joe
> |> > Blow is making copies of linda ronstadt or ugly kid joe?
> |>
> |> It gets applied directly at the time of purchase.
>
> I think he means at the other end - who gets how much from the levy?
> Which artists? How do they apportion it?
>
> |> > Where does the levy taxes exactly go?
> |>
> |> Who knows? :-)
>
> That's for sure :-) And, I think that was his first question.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
> Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
>
> To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
> glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is too small
> for a decent safety factor.
May be, artists pay less in taxes. So if a really 'hot' artist puts out
a CD that sells millions, he makes millions. But since there must be
people burning his CD, he pays less tax on the millions that he earns
from his sales .... ? Thats just a wild guess of mine... :)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:45:19 -0400
Burkhard Wölfel wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > Although this piece was written in jest, there is an element of
> > truth here...
> >
> > the classic Marxist "Create a problem then offer a solution which
> > advances our power-hungry goals" methodology.
>
> You mean, the marxists create problems and offer a solution afterwards?
>
> If so, exemplify, please.
Build up Hitler, so that he can run roughshod over Europe.
Then send the Red Army in to "rescue" everyone from Hitler.
Or the current electricity crisis in California.
Use price controls and obstruction of power-plant construction to
create a shortage of electricity...and now they same people who are
responsible for seting up these policies...are now using the resulting
crisis as an excuse to confiscate the electric power plants.
It's the Hegalian dialectic, which can be summarized thus:
If you make something fucked-up in one hand...and have shit in the
other....you can combine them together and give EVERYBODY your
fucked-up shit.
>
> >
> > Isn't it interesting that Microsoft was doing a "linux is communist"
> > propaganda campaign a while back...when, in fact, they are the ones
> > whos behavior is right out of Stalin's playbooks....
> --
> ---------------------------------------------
> Burkhard Wölfel
> v e r s u c h s a n s t a l t (at) g m x . de
> pubkey for this adress @ pgp.net
> ---------------------------------------------
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:48:01 -0400
Stephen Cornell wrote:
>
> The Xebot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Just like Microsoft, the Marxists first create the problem, and then
> > offer the solution backwards.
>
> So, life for the peasants in Czarist Russia was a bowl of cherries, was it?
Nobody claimed it was.
But, to push their goals, the Communists deliberately made things WORSE first.
They supported the anarchists, so that there was widespread lawlessness,
strife, and food shortages. The purpose is to create a power vacuum,
so that they can install themselves as the new dick-tators.
>
> --
> Stephen Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/fax +44-1223-336644
> University of Cambridge, Zoology Department, Downing Street, CAMBRIDGE CB2 3EJ
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:48:36 -0400
Electric Ninja wrote:
>
> > Isn't it interesting that Microsoft was doing a "linux is communist"
> > propaganda campaign a while back...when, in fact, they are the ones
> > whos behavior is right out of Stalin's playbooks....
>
> The red star-shaped Mozilla logo is nearly identical to what used to be
> painted on former Soviet warplanes.
What in the fuck are you talking about?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does XP stands for ???
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:12 +0100
> This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nah, they'll just filter them out.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: aaron kulkis steals his brother ian turdboy's crack pipe
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:13 +0100
On Thu, 31 May 2001 20:16:56 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Vallely's Dirt in Boss King's Ditch.." wrote:
>> Also, there's the fact that you ARE a proven right wing fuckhead..
>Bzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong.
>
>I opposed fascism and nazism just as much as i oppose communism
Irrelevent. It's still pretty clear that you're a right wing nut.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:14 +0100
On Thu, 31 May 2001 14:31:19 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:GuvR6.9892$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Since when has usability ever been a consideration in X?
>> >
>> Why change the software to make a trackball easy to use, that would be too
>> hard for them...
>Every device now needs to conform to X's ass-backwards way of doing things.
>
>You have a disability and can't hit the middle mouse button? Too friggin'
>bad! You have to conform!
>
>No, the software should be flexible to allow devices to function in
>their own form for whatever purpose they serve. Defaults are fine,
>but there should be no assumption anywhere that "middle button = copy/paste".
>
>For being customizability hounds and bashing on MS, you guys really
>have no concept of accessibility. Not everyone is a white male that
>can walk, talk, hear, see, has 10 fingers and toes, and can speak
>English.
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:15 +0100
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:45:36 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> Because Wintendo showed them how to do it?
>>
>> Tell us, Chaddy boy, what Braille-devices does windows support
>> out of the box, even automagically set up during install?
>Quite a few, I'm sure. It supports many alternative input
>devices which MS categorizes them as "Human Input Devices".
>
>So basically, you're saying that only one Linux distro
>supports only ONE alternative input device?
>
>And you're trying to claim that Linux has better support for
>the handicapped individual?
>
><sigh>
>
>When will you guys learn...
How many people actually give a fuck about OSes suporting cripples
anyway?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:15 +0100
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:03:41 +1200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"Chronos Tachyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
>message news:zlyR6.47997$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Thu 31 May 2001 02:51, Pete Goodwin wrote:
>> Using xkill. Most window managers map Ctrl+Alt+Esc to run xkill, which
>> gives you a skull-and-bones cursor that lets you blow any arbitrary X app
>> out of the water, no additional skill required. Much easier than the
>> Windows (either 9x or 2K) alternatives.
>Windows 2K maps CTRL+SHIFT+ESC to task manager which lets you blow any app
>out of the water. How is that harder?
But what about the mere 9x users? What equivalent to they get?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:16 +0100
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 02:54:03 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
(Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>Stuart Fox wrote:
>> Windows 2K maps CTRL+SHIFT+ESC to task manager which lets you blow any app
>> out of the water. How is that harder?
>It doesn't "blow any app out of the water", does it? All the task
>manager does is send the equivalent of kill -TERM, which sends a signal
>to the app requesting its termination. It's still not like most unix
>systems, where you can opt to send a kill -9 (-KILL) telling to app to
>terminate IMMEDIATELY. Of course, I think what the Windows Task Manager
>does is send the Windows equiv. of kill -TERM, and if the app doesn't
>die within XXX seconds, it opens a dialog box stating that "this app
>isn't responding. What would you like to do?" And if you select "End
>task", it sends the Windows equivalent of of kill -KILL, which means
>"kill, dammit, and I mean it!"
If you're lucky. Most of the time, you can be trying to kill it again
and again and nothing will happen.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:17 +0100
On Thu, 31 May 2001 22:04:14 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
(The Xebot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>That is because window dragging under X11 is managed by the X-server,
>not the app (the X-client). Under MS-Windows, an application must
>have it's message-pump running.
>
>I think that BeOS has the best model. A BeOS app has a minimum of two
>threads, one for display, and the other for the app's "main". IMHO,
>this provides the best performance/stability. If the main thread (or
>threads) are frozen, the GUI thread can still terminate the process.
>
>Poor BeOS; I shall miss thee.......
What's happening to it?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:18 +0100
On Thu, 31 May 2001 21:16:43 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>As someone new to linux, I often find the documentation, especially the
>HOWTO files, to be very cryptic. At the same time, most books on linux are
>useless. I suppose the more I use it the less cryptic they will seem.
HOWTO files cryptic? Are you mentally disabled or something?
>> But once you got the idea of how everything is "howtoed", it gets easier
>> and easier.
>
>The learning curve is steep, however.
No, it's quite shallow. It starts of hard and gets easier and easier.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:19 +0100
On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:17:34 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>Incorrect, there is a horribly disproportionate number of inexperienced
>people using Windows over Unix.
>
>You can't dismiss it out of hand like that.
>
>Virus writers know that if they write a virus for Unix, no one will
>open it because the vast majority, if not all, are experienced
>users and won't fall for such deception.
>
>OTOH, many inexperienced or computer illiterates use Windows, so
>they will fall for such tricks because they don't understand
>the consequences.
>
>It really has nothing to do with the OS.
It has everything to do with the OS. An experienced person, on Unix or
Windows, will not open a virus. For an inexperienced person, on Unix,
they will not be able to open the virus. On Windows, it will be very
easy for them to open the virus.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:20 +0100
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:59:51 +1200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> >included, had a crap web browser (Nutscrape).
>> If you think that's crap, then you must HATE the browser that comes
>> with Windows.
>It works better than any other I've tried.
Then the only other browser you must have tried is lynx, as Opera and
even Netscape kick the shit out of IE.
>> >Games were shit, and I don't
>> >see many commercial games for Linux on the shelves.
>> Oh sorry, I thought we were judging OSes on the ability to get serious
>> work done on them. The only decent game that comes with Windows is
>> Freecell, and you can run that under Wine.
>Again, if you could just try and keep up with the thread that would be
>great.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:21 +0100
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:01:51 +1200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
("Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> Presuming they are already used to Windows.
>Are you using a newsreader that doesn't support threading? You seem to have
>an awful amount of trouble following simple threads. Go back and read the
>thread, then reply.
Are you using a brain which doesn't enable replying to posts properly?
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:23 +0100
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 01:46:12 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)) wrote:
>On Thu, 31 May 2001 06:53:46 GMT, Greg Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> For god's sake, you can buy 128MB of memory for $45. Splurge a
>> little...
>Unless you're talking about a laptop.
Or someone who doesn't think it's worth it to spend $45 when there is
no need.
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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:52:22 +0100
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:52:40 +0000, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karel Jansens)) wrote:
>On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:45:35 +0200, Burkhard Wölfel
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Know the story from the Bible, where Jesus compares building on Sand
>>with building on rock?
>>Building on sand is what Windoze is all about, fast, easy and like that
>>tower in Pisa, Italy.
>People flock around it and stare at it in awe?
Almost.
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