Linux-Advocacy Digest #35, Volume #35 Thu, 7 Jun 01 21:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Very interesting cracker article, and XP warning. (Chad Everett)
Re: I propose a GPL change... ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Best Distribution? (Jim Richardson)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Matt Kennel)
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Gary Hallock")
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Gary Hallock")
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Gary Hallock")
Re: I propose a GPL change... (Jim Richardson)
Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!! (flatfish+++)
Re: Windows beats Linux anyday!!! (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Windows makes good coasters (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (mlw)
Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again) (flatfish+++)
Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (flatfish+++)
IBM Goes Gay (flatfish+++)
Re: IBM Goes Gay ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: IBM Goes Gay (flatfish+++)
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (mlw)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (pip)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (flatfish+++)
Re: IBM Goes Gay (pip)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (pip)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Very interesting cracker article, and XP warning.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Jun 2001 17:04:55 -0500
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 02:02:28 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>>
>> Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> : If I read this correctly, this guy is complaining because Microsoft is
>> : making their TCP/IP stack fully sockets standards compliant? Correct me if
>> : I'm wrong, but isn't one of the accusations commonly levelled at MS that
>> : they don't comply with standards? So now, they're damned if they do, damned
>> : if they don't.
>>
>> Actually, I don't fault anyone for this fiasco, other than the
>> criminals who exploit it for their own purposes.
>>
>> IPv4 was simply never designed with security in mind.
>>
>> Nor was it ever anticipated, in anyone's wildest dreams, that it would
>> become so popular that we would risk running out of address space.
>>
>> IPv6 addreses both problems and also offers a reasonable migration
>> path for existing IPv4 infrastructure.
>>
>> We need to begin moving to it.
>>
>
>Solaris 8 has the IPv6 included. I've opted out for the time being as I
>still need to read the books on IPv6. I did read something about
>certain limitations with NFS tho.
>
>From the www.ipv6.org website
Linux, Solaris, AIX, FreeBSD, etc. all
"ship with an IPv6 implementation built in."
"Microsoft Windows does not currently ship with a built in IPv6
implementation. Microsoft has an add-on IPv6 implementation for
Windows 2000 available for developer use. Please see their web
site at http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6.asp
"Apple says they will ship "Mac OS X" with built in IPv6 code."
The real problem is there are thousands of routers out there that do not
support IPv6 and won't any time soon. We ain't going to see a IPv6
Internet for a VERY long time.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I propose a GPL change...
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:07:13 -0500
"Rob S. Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >You cannot patent code, you can only patent algorithms.
> >
> >There is much GPL'd and free software that violates patents as well, for
> >instance vorbis ogg is claimed to still violate the mp3 patents.
>
> Or so the spokesman for the patent holders says. The ogg people claim
> differently, as does the FSF. I believe the latter, because I haven't
> seen a lawsuit from the patent holder yet.
Which is exactly my point (which you snipped). The typical response, even
by free software, is to ignore claims of patent infringement until a lawsuit
is brought.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Best Distribution?
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 22:13:08 -0000
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:29:43 -0000, Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:52:10 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:08:37 +0200, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> ("Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>>> In that case, I've got a 3 line perl script I'd like to show to
>>>> kulkis:
>>>>
>>>> while(1) {
>>>> print "FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!"
>>>> }
>>>
>>>It won't compile.
>>
>> Of course it compiles.
>
> not without a main() loop...
>
damn, just read the bit about it being a perl script :) doh!
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Kennel)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:13:41 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: mbkennel@<REMOVE THE BAD DOMAIN>yahoo.spam-B-gone.com
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 04:27:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:I have no desire to engage in violence. I merely wish to convince
:them to stop committing suicide by virus.
Given that demographically they are more educated and more
economically productive than average I agree with this excellent ide.
--
* Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD
*
* "To chill, or to pop a cap in my dome, whoomp! there it is."
* Hamlet, Fresh Prince of Denmark.
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From: "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:24:05 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "flatfish+++"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So Linux is trying to convert Windows users but yet can't even put the
> relevant Readme and doc files in formats that can be read by a user who
> is more than likely running Windows and attempting to learn Linux. That
> really makes sense. Throw another obstacle in the way to get them
> frustrated.
>
But they can read the files. And it is unlikely that they would even
try or need to. Someone used to Windows and trying Linux for the first
time would probably by a boxed set with a full install manual. They
would then insert the disk and boot the machine never going into Windows
in the first place. Those readme files are more likely to be read by an
experienced Linux user who downloaded and burned the CDs.
> If it were up to me I would have a folder named "NEW_USER_LOOK_HERE" and
> have copies of all of the install stuff right in one folder instead of
> scattered all over the place. And all of the readme's would be txt files
> and the How-To's would be text as well as .pdf files.
>
So come up with your own Linux distro. Or get MS to fix notepad.
> But that would make things too easy now wouldn't it?
>
> No wonder Linux CD's get thrown in the trash before they even have a
> chance.
So you say. And we all know that whatever you say must be the truth!
Gary
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From: "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:26:17 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "flatfish+++"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How else are they going to read them since they haven't installed Linux
> yet? Unless they have a Mac. Duuuhhh.
>
They would read that big manual in hardcopy form that comes with the
boxed set. Or they just pop in the CD and follow the instructions during
the install procedure.
Gary
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From: "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:28:12 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "flatfish+++"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They are an all IBM shop and have been TR for years.
Your friend must be a idiot to trust you installing Linux. By the way,
TR works fine for me.
Gary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: I propose a GPL change...
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 22:38:56 -0000
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:19:10 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:27:34 -0600, Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> > Since Microsoft so despises the GPL, I propose that the GPL be changed
>> > to prevent the use of GPL'd software on any Microsoft OS! ;o)
>> >
>> A great idea and I second it, but whats the point ?
>>
>> Microsoft have just demonstrated (MS v/s AT&T) that they will
>> steal your patented code, and then refuse to pay one cent
>> even when you allow them to license it (after the act).
>
> You cannot patent code, you can only patent algorithms.
>
> There is much GPL'd and free software that violates patents as well, for
> instance vorbis ogg is claimed to still violate the mp3 patents.
funnilly enough, frauhoffer (the folks making that claim) won't say what
is infringing, just make vague statements that it is, or might be. IOW,
they are bullshitting.
>
> Patents cover ideas, which can be implemented in hundreds of different ways.
> It's quite easy to unintentionally violate a patent. Of course AT&T claims
> that MS willfully violated the patent, however, it's pretty much common
> practice to ignore patent issues unless actually sued, since most of the
> time the claims are baseless.
like in the vorbis case you mentioned above? You said that there is much
GPL'd S/W that violates patents, can you give an example of some ?
>
>> How can Microsoft expect Windows pirates to feel the least
>> bit guilty, when MS are themselves pirates on a mammoth
>> scale?
>
> Patent infringement is not copyright infringement.
is it "worse"? or "better"?
>
>
>
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX PRINTING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 22:44:19 GMT
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:08:42 -0400, Nigel Feltham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Problem is that they (the pubs) are not cleaning the taps properly and
that is what leads to the bitter/sour taste of tap beer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Windows beats Linux anyday!!!
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:08:17 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ben Millar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:48:14 GMT
<OtrO6.8336$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
3 blank lines.
3 blank lines.
See how they read.
See how they read.
It's always a wonder how they can be sure,
when something is ailing that Window's the cure,
Have you ever seen anything else that's so pure
as 3 blank lines.
Without any text.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sung to the tune of "3 blind mice".
EAC code #191 38d:11h:20m actually running Linux.
[ ] Check here to always compile your own software.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:43:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 09 May 2001 11:45:50 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Steve Sheldon wrote:
>>
>[a lot of troll-shit snipped]
>
>Guys, Steve here is obviously trolling.
>
>> Yes, crashing out of X-Windows back to a console is pretty routine.
>
>Just one example.
X *does* crash routinely -- on dodgy hardware. This no more
reflects on the goodness (or badness) of X's design, any more
than a failing fuel pump causing hesitations and stalls
reflects badly on the manufacturer of an automobile,
or its design thereof.
Personally, I think X is a solid design, and it's network
transparent to boot. I don't think there have been any
changes to X's protocol since X11 came out. Additions,
yes -- but no changes. X was even able to slip in the client-side
XImage stuff, somehow.
Contrast that to 'LineToEx'. Or is it 'MoveToEx'? Strange that
Microsoft would have to release a new version of such a simple
graphics instruction. And then there's 'MulDiv', which is in
a strange place last time I looked.
While it is possible to make Windows network-transparent (by
replacing a DLL or two or dozen), as far as I can tell, it would not
be as clean a design.
>
>--
>Free the Software!
--
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EAC code #191 38d:17h:34m actually running Linux.
[select one]
It's a conspiracy of one.
No protons were harmed during this message.
We were born naked, but we don't usually die naked. Why?
I am, you are, he, she, and it is, but they're not.
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This is a voluntary signature virus. Send this to somebody.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:50:05 -0400
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ray Fischer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Wed, 16 May 2001 22:30:16 GMT
> > <9duuvt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >Robert W Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>And where is your evidence that people have no choice over their homosexual
> > >>behavior?
> > >
> > >Yeah! You could choose to be interested in men so it's obvious that
> > >homosexuals could choose to be interested in women.
> > >
> > >Right?
> >
> > One could mimic such behavior to avoid detection; such has been done
> > in the past, as I understand it -- even to the point of a
> > loveless, or at least sexless, marriage.
> >
> > This no more makes the homosexual a het, anymore than a woolen overcoat
> > makes a wolf a sheep.
>
> What part of "IT's the BEHAVIOR(*)," do you not understand?????
>
> (*) not the desire
Normally I would not even touch such a string of posts. What two adults do in
privacy is no ones business. Who gives a flying fl&^%k what two people do
together? Seriously what does it matter?
This is something I just don't get, nor think I ever will. Who are you to have
any opinion about what another human being does, which does not adversely
affect you or anyone else?
For the record, I'm not gay, and think the idea of being with another man is
repugnant. Those are my personal feelings and it certainly is not my, nor
anyone else's, place to judge anyone based on personal feelings.
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From: flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling Knews was: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:55:59 GMT
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:28:12 +0000, "Gary Hallock"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "flatfish+++"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> They are an all IBM shop and have been TR for years.
>
>Your friend must be a idiot to trust you installing Linux. By the way,
>TR works fine for me.
>
>Gary
So pray tell me what is the secret?
I have Mandrake 7.2 sitting right here and a nice Thinkpad 765L
sitting here as well.
Mandrake installs fine.
Now try and get X running.
Drakconf mis-identifies the Cyber chipset as the incorrect one and
when X loads the screen just turns white.
xf86config does exactly the same no matter what choice I take.
So Gary, what do I do?
BTW the Token Ring card (the one with the geen decal on it, not a
Turbo but the original 16/4) will NOT work with Linux.
So Gary, what do I do now?
Please be specific.
And for what it's worth, Redhat 6.1 installed perfectly on the same
machine and I selected SVGA that would do 1024x768 @70hz and 16bpi and
50hz-90hz and it worked perfectly.
TokenRing also worked perfectly with Redhat 6.1 using the ibmtr
driver.
So why not Mandrake 7.2?
Or SuSE 7.0?
Or Caldera 2.4?
Or TurboLinux (I forget the #)?
Why Gary?
Why can't X or tr be configured with those distros?
You looking for a day on Long Island at a private beach with all the
beer you can drink?
Come on out courtsey of Flatfish, config the pos ThinkPad and it's
yours......
flatfish+++
"Why do they call it a flatfish?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Windows XP Gets Fingered
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:09:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:48:36 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Electric Ninja wrote:
>>
>> > Isn't it interesting that Microsoft was doing a "linux is communist"
>> > propaganda campaign a while back...when, in fact, they are the ones
>> > whos behavior is right out of Stalin's playbooks....
>>
>> The red star-shaped Mozilla logo is nearly identical to what used to be
>> painted on former Soviet warplanes.
>
>What in the fuck are you talking about?
HUAC paranoia, from the looks of it. Of course, Netscape is a commie plot
to take over the world from the good, wholesome Washington-based
capitalist powerhouse that is Microsoft, the purveyor of all that is
software.
Spot The Extreme Sarcasm! :-)
(Besides, Mozzie's open source. This is bad? There's been only one
failure of open source that I know of -- and that's in a distributed
computing application, distributed.net; apparently there were some
issues regarding hacked clients. Rather specialized failure, that.)
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 38d:18h:04m actually running Linux.
Be paranoid. Everyone else is.
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From: flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:12:00 GMT
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:50:05 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>For the record, I'm not gay, and think the idea of being with another man is
>repugnant. Those are my personal feelings and it certainly is not my, nor
>anyone else's, place to judge anyone based on personal feelings.
Wait until they try to teach "alternate lifestyles" to your children
in school.
flatfish+++
"Why do they call it a flatfish?"
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From: flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:25:16 GMT
Folks, it's a sad day for IBM supporters because apparently they have
succumbed to the gay pressure and are mobilizing to support this
deviant lifestyle.
A recent memo released to IBM employees includes such comments as:
1. A "lunch and learn" roundtable on 6/6/01 at 590 Madison ave.
2. How IBM plans to attract top gay and lesbian talent.
3. The role of IBM's new, dedicated GLBT Sales and Talent team.
The memo, which is not IBM Confidential of Internal BTW, goes on to
quote the constitution concerning equal rights and freedom of
expression and so forth.
It also gives a contacts which I am leaving out of this post, but if
you are interested email me.
So what do ya'll think?
I find it disgusting that IBM will give benefits to homo's living
together as if they are married yet 2 heterosexual partners will not
get the same benefits not that I believe in cohabitation before
marriage, but you get the idea.
I realize this is controversial, but I have my opinions and IBM and
the rest of the earth has theirs.
I'm not judging, just voicing an objection.
Only God almighty has the power to judge and his judgement is swift
and fast.
flatfish+++
"Why do they call it a flatfish?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:37:19 GMT
I think it's lousy when employers take a stand on this sort of thing,
one way or the other. Where I work we have annual "sensivity
training." They tell us that what we mean when we speak is irrelavant;
it's how our words make people feel that determines whether the
words are punishable.
And personally, I agree it's a poor choice of lifestyle. That's not
something you persecute somebody for, but I would be very
sad for a child of mine who went that way.
flatfish+++ wrote:
> Folks, it's a sad day for IBM supporters because apparently they have
> succumbed to the gay pressure and are mobilizing to support this
> deviant lifestyle.
>
<snip>
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From: flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:42:19 GMT
On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:37:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I think it's lousy when employers take a stand on this sort of thing,
>one way or the other. Where I work we have annual "sensivity
>training." They tell us that what we mean when we speak is irrelavant;
>it's how our words make people feel that determines whether the
>words are punishable.
I agree.
I have several friends who work for IBM and they are quite upset about
all of this.
To quote one male friend of mine:
"I'd love to se their (IBM's) faces if I showed up wearing a mini
skirt and pumps one day"
I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he tries that stunt.
I'll bet IBM managers "charm school" (you listening Gary) didn't teach
them to deal with that.
You know what they say about IBM first line managers school I presume?
If not:
They remove their spine.
They insert a glass window in their stomach so they (the future
manager) can see where they are going.
flatfish+++
"Why do they call it a flatfish?"
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:42:30 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b1e4d7f$0$94306$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Michael Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Christopher L. Estep" wrote:
>
> > > How many UNIX geeks know about SAMBA (a slick little utility that
enables
> > > UNIX/Linux clients to co-exist in Windows-based networks)? Here's the
most
> > > telling argument about SAMBA: it's not only included with any decent
distro
> > > of UNIX/Linux, SAMBA even works against Windows *2000*-based networks.
> > > Microsoft could choose to wreck SAMBA, but hasn't (and won't, either).
> > >
> > They have tried and failed.
>
> When was this?
>
> -c
They have done it twice now. Once was a service pack to win95 that made
stop sending plain-text passwords that would interoperate with samba
using unix password file encryption. There was some pretense about
a security enhancement from this even though they continued to send
the equally insecure lanman hash. The most recent was sp2 for
win2k which prevents interoperation with samba running as a
domain controller. They just have to make their point that they
can and will break interoperability with anyone else's products
on a whim.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:00:14 -0400
flatfish+++ wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:50:05 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >For the record, I'm not gay, and think the idea of being with another man is
> >repugnant. Those are my personal feelings and it certainly is not my, nor
> >anyone else's, place to judge anyone based on personal feelings.
>
> Wait until they try to teach "alternate lifestyles" to your children
> in school.
Fear makes a person small.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 02:02:57 +0100
mlw wrote:
>
> flatfish+++ wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 19:50:05 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >For the record, I'm not gay, and think the idea of being with another man is
> > >repugnant. Those are my personal feelings and it certainly is not my, nor
> > >anyone else's, place to judge anyone based on personal feelings.
> >
> > Wait until they try to teach "alternate lifestyles" to your children
> > in school.
>
> Fear makes a person small.
So does swimming in cold sea water :)
:)
Like you I am amazed that these kind of discussions happen here which is
why I like to add a bit of the ridiculous to this thread to highlight
how silly the whole thing is and how silly that it takes place in this
forum (please excuse if not assumed). I really have no wish to know
anyone's view's on these personal private matters that have nothing to
do with Linux, advocacy or technical matters.
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From: flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 01:03:52 GMT
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:00:14 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Fear makes a person small.
And poisoning a childs mind is sick....
flatfish+++
"Why do they call it a flatfish?"
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 02:06:45 +0100
flatfish+++ wrote:
> [snip]
This thread really does have no place here.
Please!
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 02:09:19 +0100
flatfish+++ wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:00:14 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Fear makes a person small.
>
> And poisoning a childs mind is sick....
Please could we end this OT debate here ?
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