Linux-Advocacy Digest #201, Volume #35 Wed, 13 Jun 01 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Ketil Z Malde)
Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Here's a switch for a change (Greg Cox)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Cray Drygu)
Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-032 : SQL Query Method Enables Cached
Administrator Connection to be Reused
Re: IBM Goes Gay (Mark)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (Mark)
Re: Here's a switch for a change (Mark)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Mark)
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (Mark)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:18:55 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> Aaron> Almost 100% of the population (including gays) have been innoculated
> Aaron> for TB.
>
> Your ignorance is amazing!
>
U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
Men who have sex with men - 326,051
Injecting drug use - -
MALE 126,889 -
FEMALE 46,804 -
TOTAL - 173,693
Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
MALE 4,663 -
FEMALE 248 -
TOTAL - 4,911
Heterosexual contact - -
MALE 23,361 -
FEMALE 43,128 -
TOTAL - 66,490
Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
MALE 4,784 -
FEMALE 3,598 -
TOTAL - 8,382
Risk not reported or identified - -
MALE 41,037 -
FEMALE 15,533 -
TOTAL - 56,572
- center for disease control, 1999
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:19:11 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> flatfish+++ writes:
> >>
> flatfish> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:00:14 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> Fear makes a person small.
> >>
> flatfish> And poisoning a childs mind is sick....
> >>
> >> Yes, lead poisoning is a bad thing.
> >>
> >> However teaching kids about homosexuality is nothing
> >> like that.
> >>
>
> Aaron> You're right. It's much worse.
>
> You are proof of the opposite.
>
> Your ignorance on the topic is clear proof that
> kids should be taught _about_ homosexuality.
U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
Men who have sex with men - 326,051
Injecting drug use - -
MALE 126,889 -
FEMALE 46,804 -
TOTAL - 173,693
Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
MALE 4,663 -
FEMALE 248 -
TOTAL - 4,911
Heterosexual contact - -
MALE 23,361 -
FEMALE 43,128 -
TOTAL - 66,490
Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
MALE 4,784 -
FEMALE 3,598 -
TOTAL - 8,382
Risk not reported or identified - -
MALE 41,037 -
FEMALE 15,533 -
TOTAL - 56,572
- center for disease control, 1999
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:19:19 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:04:27 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> Cannot ANY form of intercourse spread disease?
> >
> >Yes. However, are all diseases equally communicable and equally deathly?
> >
> >a) yes
> >B) NO.
>
> Is that relevant?
>
> >> Or have health care
> >> proffesionals simply been lying to us?
> >
> >No...but a lot of homosexual ACTIVISTS have been.
>
> No, but a lot of right-wing bigots like Aaron have been.
U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
Men who have sex with men - 326,051
Injecting drug use - -
MALE 126,889 -
FEMALE 46,804 -
TOTAL - 173,693
Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
MALE 4,663 -
FEMALE 248 -
TOTAL - 4,911
Heterosexual contact - -
MALE 23,361 -
FEMALE 43,128 -
TOTAL - 66,490
Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
MALE 4,784 -
FEMALE 3,598 -
TOTAL - 8,382
Risk not reported or identified - -
MALE 41,037 -
FEMALE 15,533 -
TOTAL - 56,572
- center for disease control, 1999
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:19:26 -0400
drsquare wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:10:53 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> > You're right. It's much worse.
> >> >
> >> For 10 minutes could you stop being retarded, and explain in RATIONAL
> >> TERMS wht is wrong with homosexuality?
> >
> >What part of AIDS, Hepatitis, Tuberculosis, and Kaposi's Sarcoma do you not
>understand?
>
> That part that they're equally transferrable through homosexual and
> heterosexual sex.
U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
Men who have sex with men - 326,051
Injecting drug use - -
MALE 126,889 -
FEMALE 46,804 -
TOTAL - 173,693
Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
MALE 4,663 -
FEMALE 248 -
TOTAL - 4,911
Heterosexual contact - -
MALE 23,361 -
FEMALE 43,128 -
TOTAL - 66,490
Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
MALE 4,784 -
FEMALE 3,598 -
TOTAL - 8,382
Risk not reported or identified - -
MALE 41,037 -
FEMALE 15,533 -
TOTAL - 56,572
- center for disease control, 1999
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:23:05 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, GreyCloud
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:29:40 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
[snip for brevity]
>> (Side note: Believe it or not, there's at least one bulb out there
>> that has been burning for 100 years.)
>
>Now that you mention it, I read somewhere in a newspaper after the
>collapse of the Berlin Wall, that most of the light bulbs in Russia were
>hard wired in and have been lit for over 40 years. Does that mean our
>light bulbs are planned obsolesence?
I for one couldn't say; i've never been over to that side of what
once was called "the Iron Curtain". The closest I got was Yugoslavia.
Mind you, that sounds a little weird. Hard-wiring in a light bulb?
Might make sense if it had a zener shunt protector and was some sort
of a LED / solid state device, perhaps -- but it's only been within the
last two or so years that we could manufacture white LED's. Then again,
electrolumiscent panels might work, too.
But you'd still want them field-replaceable in case of, say, a lightning
storm, tornado, earthquake, mudslide, flood, destructive neighbor kid,
helpful not-so-handyman all-thumbs spouse, mad scientists, etc.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random light source here
EAC code #191 44d:12h:43m actually running Linux.
This is a voluntary signature virus. Send this to somebody.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:26:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maynard Handley) writes:
> Oh give me a fucking break. This is why adults consider the Linux
> crowd to be a bunch of amateurs.
Yeah. My Linux box has had, what, four different machines now.
Generally, I move the disk, install whatever drivers are needed in the
kernel, and boot up. A real mess, I tell you, often takes minutes
just to find the screwdriver.
I guess this makes me an amateur. I guess I prefer to be.
> lack of a single-button way to move an old machine
Yes, it's not single button. I compile the kernel, and sure, not
everybody would want to do that. *shrug*
> willing to buy a new system, but could not be bothered to do so because
> the cost (in TIME) of moving everything from one machine to the next is
> too high; and that by fixing this MS (with money from Intel in necessary,
> since Intel wins as much as MS) could do as much as anything else to
> improved their revenue stream.
I'm not sure about that. How many Linux or Mac users would switch to
Windows because of it? PC users buy by default MS software anyway, so
while I agree there'd be a benefit to society, I don't think it's
obvious where the revenue stream for Intel/MS is.
And, I note, the problem is not trivial the way Windows is organized
now. In particular the 9x series.
-kzm
--
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:31:33 GMT
Said JamesW in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:12:05 +0100;
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> I know of NO computers that have a DVD and CDRW installed. EVER. I
>> have browsed stores, sites, and catalogues, and have never ONCE seen a
>> computer offered with both. Typically, it is an either/or decision,
>> though occasionally only one alternative is available.
>>
>Apple PowerMac G4 733 - DVD-R / CD-RW combo
>Compaq Pressario 7000 - DVD-R / CD-RW combo
Wow. Imagine that. Boy, am I surprised.
<*chuckle*>
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: Greg Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Here's a switch for a change
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:38:02 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> This is off topic for this thread.... I went to ms website for the VC6.0
> downloads...
> I can't do it because its HUGE... 175Mb of downloads??? Over a 28.8K
> modem line??
>
> Looks like I go to Metrowerks to get a compiler that works right.
>
Then go to http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/sp/vs6sp5/ordering.asp and
order the service pack on CD for a service charge of a whole $5.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
From: Cray Drygu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:41:26 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual
>> > contact?
>>
>> AIDS
>
>
>U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
[snip]
>
>Heterosexual contact - -
>MALE 23,361 -
>FEMALE 43,128 -
>TOTAL - 66,490
Hey look, you proved him right.
By the way, how's the paint on your V key doing? You've been doing a
heck of a lot of pasting recently. Too bad your pasted stats don't
make sense as a reply to over half the posts you replied to with them.
--
Cray Drygu
cray [at] [dot] org
indecisions
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-032 : SQL Query Method Enables Cached
Administrator Connection to be Reused
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:43:11 +0200
In article <9g6jet$f7r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When a client connection to a SQL Server is terminated, it remains cached
> for a short period of time for performance reasons. One SQL query method
> contains a flaw that has the effect of making it possible for one user's
> query to reuse a cached connection that belonged to the sa account.
>
> Exploiting this vulnerability would enable an attacker to execute the query
> using the administrator's security context. This would give her the ability
> to take any desired action on the database; moreover, it would give her the
> ability to run extended stored procedures, thereby giving her the
> opportunity to run code of her choice and assume de facto control of the
> server itself.
>
> Patch availability:
>
> a.. Microsoft SQL Server 2000 and SQL Server 7.0:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q299/7/17.asphttp://support
> .microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q299/7/17.asp
>
> Is this Chads glorious, secure SQL server he raves on about? my god, a
> Microsoft product having security problems, GOOD LORD NO! HOW CAN THAT BE?
For some reason MS are sending me their security bulletins to my work email
account (I have no idea why I'm so privileged as I don't use MS SW at work
or at home). Just the other day there was a security bulletin for their
telnet server which stated it fixed 10 (TEN) bugs! MS security is still as
big a joke as it has always been.
--
Over 100 security bugs in Microsoft SW last year. An infamous
record. The worst offending piece of SW, by far, IIS. 2001 isn't
looking any better.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:31:08 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9g78hr$t22$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward Rosten wrote:
>>> I have recently been singing the praises of BBC Basic. Will that do?
>>
>> The Z80 was the best processor ever made.
>
>Gak!
>
>6502 rules OK!
>
>-Ed
>
>
>
6809 is the only processor worth powering up...
--
Mark Kent
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance...
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:19:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9g78sp$t94$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward Rosten wrote:
>>> >> >> >W2k rockz and linux suxors. Need I say more? :)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yeah, American Windows and foreign Linux. Now what does that tell
>>> >> >> you?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Linux is a flavor of an American OS.
>>> >>
>>> >> Written from scratch by a Finn...
>>> >
>>> >Based on an American OS.
>>>
>>> For use on something derived from European technology.
>>
>> Yet another worthless assertion with ZERO evidence to back it up.
>
>The computer originated in europe in case you didn't know. The first ever
>device that could be classified as a modern computer (ie it was Turing
>complete) was built in Germany during WWII by Konrad Zuse (do a google
>search, it shows up a lot of stuff) and was complete (IIRC) in 1943.
>
>If you look at a bit of history, you will realise that the development of
>the computer is a truly multinational phenomenon and will quit with "The
>US is better than... because they invented...".
>
>BTW, you're completely wrong and there is plenty of
>evidence.
>
>-Ed
>
>
>
Just curious why Colossus doesn't rate being classified as
a computer - it was certainly computing before 1943 and was certainly
modern and was very complete.......
--
Mark Kent
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: Here's a switch for a change
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:29:40 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Cox wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>says...
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:37:42 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > "Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:12:04 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> > "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> > news:9frbdu$5ku4u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> >> > He's demanding to talk to the store manager because Windows wiped out
>> >> >> > all of his data which contained some kind of a web based research
>> >> >> > project (best I could gather in between screams).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd like to have been there and heard the manager try to explain that
>> > not
>> >> >> only was his data permanently gone with no chance of compensation but
>> > he
>> >> >> couldn't have a refund on the software because he agreed to the
>> > no-refunds
>> >> >> clause in the EULA when he installed the product. - but he could have
>> >> >> another copy of the same product in exchange.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no such clause in the EULA, in fact MS offers a 30 day money
>> > back
>> >> > guarantee on retail software.
>> >>
>> >> which if you try to collect (on the os that came shipped with your PC)
>> >> they refuse, say that you have to collect from the manufacturer of the
>> >> PC.
>> >
>> > The OS that ships with the PC is an OEM, not a retail copy.
>> >
>> > If you try to bring back your AC Delco radio, I'm sure Delco will likely
>> > laugh at you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> In the windows EULA, it says that if you don't agree to it, you should
>> return it for a refund, which M$ refuses to pay. If I bought a radio
>> which turned out to be a piece of sh!t, I'd return it, but I can't seem
>> to do the same thing with windows, why is that Eric?
>>
>
>Why is this so hard for people to understand? If you buy Microsoft
>software at a retail store and the EULA says you can return it for a
>refund then you can return it for a refund either at the store you got
>it from or directly from Microsoft. As far as I know no one has ever
>been denied a refund in this retail situation.
You've obviously never heard of Windows Refund day then. I think it
was last year when a guy in australia bought a Toshiba laptop, and
took back the windows for a refund. The store *refused*. He took
it up with Toshiba. Toshiba *refused*. He ended up taking the
issue to Toshiba's headquarters, afairc, before getting anywhere.
He certainly did not get anything from Microsoft, they *refused*,
saying it was Toshiba's problem, and nothing from the store.
> If you bought a computer
>that had Microsoft software included with an OEM based EULA then you need
>to go to the manufacturer of the computer to get a refund. This is the
>exact same situation I was in when I bought my Toyata pickup. It had a
>radio as standard equipment. I didn't want it (I wanted a Clarion
>radio/CD player instead) and asked for a refund. The dealer not only
>said they wouldn't give me a refund for a standard equipment item but
>would have to charge me mechanic's time to remove the radio. Do you
>honestly believe the manufacturer of my pickup's radio is responsible to
>give me the refund if I ask for it?
You don't need to have the radio removed, just order the vehicle without
the radio fitted. In any area other than Microsoft's, this is possible.
The problem with PCs is that Microsoft have forced most if not all
major vendors to pay them a sum of money when they sell a pc, whether
it has windows installed or not. This means that the manufacturers of
these machines simply do not ship without windows. In the case of
a car and a radio, you have a choice. When Microsoft are involved,
you have no choice.
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Mark Kent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:33:50 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <sVAV6.790$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
>"Jasper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> On 20 May 2001 13:35:11 -0500, "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >I thought you were educated? Time to go back to class...
>> >
>> >radio waves travel slower than light...
>> >
>>
>> How embarrissing. Radio waves are light.
>
>*sigh* That comment is right up there with
>"patriotism is a stupid thing".
>
>
Err, try reading Maxwell's Equations - there is no difference,
they are the same thing!
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Mark Kent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:41:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9g7msk$94t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward Rosten wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "drsquare"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:12:05 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> (Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>Jon Johansan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> lesse... $1000 for hard copy of Encyclopedia that is never updated and
>>>> contains no "live" data or links.
>>>> $damn-near-free for CD ROM Encyclopedia that is live and can be
>>>> updated
>>>> and contains more diverse types of information?
>>>>
>>>> there is a decision to be made here?
>>>
>>>No. The hard copy is far superior, if you can afford it.
>>
>> No, it's not.
>
>It is in some ways. Print is much easier to read than a
>computer screen due having a much higher resoulution and contrast. Also,
>the print quailty from an expensive book is liable to be much higher than
>the print quality you could get out of any printer you are likely to be
>able to afford / have room for.
>
>
History has a habit of disappearing in online publications.
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Mark Kent
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