Hi Dejan,

Thank you for comments.

> That's not a good reason. Testing if binaries exist on every
> monitor operation really doesn't make much sense. Why would you
> expect programs to start disappearing? And if they do, we may
> have a much more serious problem to deal with.

All right.

We withdraw this patch.
And let me discuss it when we review overall RA next again.

Many Thanks,
Hideo Yamauchi.


--- On Tue, 2012/4/10, Dejan Muhamedagic <de...@suse.de> wrote:

> Hi Hideo-san,
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:43:00PM +0900, renayama19661...@ybb.ne.jp wrote:
> > Hi Dejan,
> > 
> > Thank you for comments.
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Hideo-san,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:18:07AM +0900, renayama19661...@ybb.ne.jp 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Dejan,
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for comments.
> > > > 
> > > > > > I change validate-all and want to change it to always carry out 
> > > > > > validate-all.
> > > > > > I abolish vgck/vgdisplay carried out in validate-all and intend to 
> > > > > > make only the check of the parameter simply.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How do you think?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Isn't it that validate-all may be really necessary only in the
> > > > > start action? The repeating monitor is scheduled only after a
> > > > > successful start.
> > > > 
> > > > It may be surely necessary as you say.
> > > > However, I think validate-all to unify it so that it is always carried 
> > > > out.
> > > 
> > > But why?
> > 
> > There is the resource to carry out validate-all every time a lot.
> > We wish it becomes LVM in the same way.
> 
> That's not a good reason. Testing if binaries exist on every
> monitor operation really doesn't make much sense. Why would you
> expect programs to start disappearing? And if they do, we may
> have a much more serious problem to deal with.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dejan
> 
> > > > How about what the check of vgck/vgdisplay chooses it in a parameter 
> > > > and can carry out?
> > > 
> > > Again, why? It doesn't make any difference for a running
> > > resource? We may do this before the start operation, of course.
> > 
> > My correction is different from original LVM in big validate-all.
> > 
> > There were many mistakes to my patch.
> > And I think about a patch again and send it.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Hideo Yamauchi.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Dejan
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Hideo Yamauchi.
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Fri, 2012/4/6, Dejan Muhamedagic <de...@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Hideo-san,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 10:50:39AM +0900, renayama19661...@ybb.ne.jp 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Dejan,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I change validate-all and want to change it to always carry out 
> > > > > > validate-all.
> > > > > > I abolish vgck/vgdisplay carried out in validate-all and intend to 
> > > > > > make only the check of the parameter simply.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How do you think?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Isn't it that validate-all may be really necessary only in the
> > > > > start action? The repeating monitor is scheduled only after a
> > > > > successful start.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dejan
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Hideo Yamauchi.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- On Fri, 2012/4/6, Dejan Muhamedagic <de...@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi Hideo-san,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:32:05AM +0900, 
> > > > > > > renayama19661...@ybb.ne.jp wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Dejan,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I agree to your patch.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you for the reply.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > BTW, the monitor was shamelessly stolen from Vladislav.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Applied.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ocft test passed (after some struggle and eventually fixing the
> > > > > > > ocft source).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dejan
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > Hideo Yamauchi.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2012/4/5, Dejan Muhamedagic <de...@suse.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This is a proposed set of two patches which would eliminate 
> > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > of LVM commands in the monitor path. We already discussed the
> > > > > > > > > issue elsewhere and I don't see any point in keeping
> > > > > > > > > vgck/vgdisplay given that they don't result in better 
> > > > > > > > > monitoring
> > > > > > > > > under normal circumstances. And if the circumstances are such
> > > > > > > > > that the new monitoring fails, I think that there'll be many
> > > > > > > > > more problems on the node than a failed volume group.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Dejan
> > > > > > > > > 
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