Hi 
OK thanks I 'll look for the last release of crm command ...
But one thing I don't understand : the "Ordering sets of resources" 
configuration  is described
in my old Pacemaker Configuration Explained 1.0.5" , so if the crm 
delivered with Pacemaker 
on RH does not support this, that means that there was another way to 
enter this type of configuration ? 
Or perhaps that nobody has needed yet this type of sets ordering ? (Which 
would be strange ...)
Alain



De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
Date :  01/08/2012 00:25
Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered 
resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:39 AM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've looked for a crm standalone rpm on github/clusterlabs, but
> unsuccessfully ...
> Could somebody here give me a clue ? ;-)

Go to:

   https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/

And look for the section titled "Important information about the crm 
shell"

>
> Thanks
> Alain
>
>
>
> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
> Date :  30/07/2012 10:23
> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:34 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>> by "shell" , you mean the crm api ?
>
> I mean the bit that looks like:
>
> crm configure ...
>
>>
>> if so , where could I get the stand-alone release ?
>
> I don't recall off the top of my head, there is a link to it from the
> clusterlabs/pacemaker github page.
>
>>
>> Thanks again
>> Alain
>>
>>
>>
>> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>> Date :  30/07/2012 08:30
>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Andrew
>>> sorry but I  don't understand what you mean by "the stand-alone 
version
>> of
>>> the shell"  ?
>>
>> The shell is now a separate project.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Alain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
>>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>> Date :  30/07/2012 05:59
>>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of 
unordered
>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:02 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>>>> I've found in the mailing-list messages the syntax I could have
> written
>>>> with crm configure edit , something like :
>>>> order order-g-FS  inf:  ( fs-A fs-B fs-C fs-D fs-E ) ( exportfs-fs-A
>>>> exportfs-fs-B  exportfs-fs-C exportfs-fs-D  exportfs-fs-E )
>>>> right ?
>>>> But with my pacemaker release , crm configure edit returns a syntax
>>> error
>>>> around the first "("
>>>> so I think it is not supported with my release 1.1.5-5 , right ?
>>>
>>> You probably want to be using the stand-alone version of the shell.
>>> Its likely to be far more up-to-date than the bundled one.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for confirmation.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> De :    alain.mou...@bull.net
>>>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>>> Date :  27/07/2012 12:47
>>>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of
> unordered
>>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> OK for mount of FS , that's not the real thing which matters for me,
>>>> but I'm quite sure that the parallelisation of exportfs stop, when 
the
>>>> OCF_RESKEY_wait_for_leasetime is set, is
>>>> valuable and even quite mandatory, as I do not want to add the sleep
> of
>>>> the 5 exportfs even with a reduced value
>>>> for the wait_for_leastime which is 90s by default. I would like to 
set
>>> it
>>>> to around 10s, but in parallel for the 5 exportfs.
>>>> Without paralleization, NFS clients will for sure get timeouts before
>>> the
>>>> end of migration of the FS and exportfs resource group.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, my question was more about the configuration of 6.6 example
>> than
>>>> the behavior of server nfs in HA ... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> De :    "Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
>>>> A :     <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>>> Date :  27/07/2012 11:47
>>>> Objet : [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
>>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> While your idea sounds good, I doubt whether parallel mounts being
>> tried
>>>> are actually being performed in parallel, just as the exportfs
>>> operations.
>>>>
>>>> They all access some common data structures in the kernel, I guess. 
In
>>>> that case, the timeout values may need adjustments.
>>>>
>>>> Despite of that some RAs may show amazing behavior if executed in
>>> parallel
>>>>
>>>> (I guess) ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ulrich
>>>>
>>>>>>> <alain.mou...@bull.net> schrieb am 27.07.2012 um 09:15 in 
Nachricht
>>>> <of7cf1dd89.6edcc5c6-onc1257a48.0025bf70-c1257a48.0027c...@bull.net>:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> For now I had a group with several Filesystem resources followed by
>> the
>>>>> exportfs like this :
>>>>> group g-FS-EXPORTED    fs-A   fs-B   fs-C   fs-D   fs-E 
exportfs-fs-A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> exportfs-fs-B  exportfs-fs-C exportfs-fs-D  exportfs-fs-E \
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I would like to have all the FS mounted before all the exportfs
>>> BUT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> with sequential=false for all Filesystem primitives and
>>> sequential=false
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> also for all exportfs primitives.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw in the Pacemaker Configuration Explained documentation the
>>>>> Example 6.11. Ordered sets of unordered resources
>>>>> with two ressources A & B starting in parallel and before two
>>> ressources
>>>>
>>>> C
>>>>> & D starting also starting in parallel. I think this
>>>>> is exactly what I need.
>>>>>
>>>>> But :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1/ I have to remove the group configuration g-FS-EXPORTED , right ?
>>>>>         or could I have such constraints "inside" the group itself ?
>>>>> (based on documentation, I don't think so)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2/ How can I enter the ordered set of unordered resources in the
>>>>> configuration ?
>>>>>    (in documentation, the examples are given in xml, whereas we 
can't
>>>> edit
>>>>> the xml cib file,
>>>>>     and in crm configure order, I can't see the way to do it :
>>>>>         usage: order <id> score-type: <first-rsc>[:<action>]
>>>>> <then-rsc>[:<action>]   [symmetrical=<bool>]
>>>>>
>>>>> 3/ After this configuration, that means that I can't manage the 
start
>>> or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> stop of all these resources with only one command
>>>>>     as it was the case with the group  ? meaning that I have to
> launch
>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> start command on the 10 primitives ? instead of
>>>>>     the start command on the group ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help on this.
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
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