On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:49 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
> Hi
> OK thanks I 'll look for the last release of crm command ...
> But one thing I don't understand : the "Ordering sets of resources"
> configuration  is described
> in my old Pacemaker Configuration Explained 1.0.5" , so if the crm
> delivered with Pacemaker
> on RH does not support this,

It was there but broken

> that means that there was another way to
> enter this type of configuration ?
> Or perhaps that nobody has needed yet this type of sets ordering ? (Which
> would be strange ...)
> Alain
>
>
>
> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
> Date :  01/08/2012 00:25
> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:39 AM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I've looked for a crm standalone rpm on github/clusterlabs, but
>> unsuccessfully ...
>> Could somebody here give me a clue ? ;-)
>
> Go to:
>
>    https://github.com/ClusterLabs/pacemaker/
>
> And look for the section titled "Important information about the crm
> shell"
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Alain
>>
>>
>>
>> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>> Date :  30/07/2012 10:23
>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:34 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>>> by "shell" , you mean the crm api ?
>>
>> I mean the bit that looks like:
>>
>> crm configure ...
>>
>>>
>>> if so , where could I get the stand-alone release ?
>>
>> I don't recall off the top of my head, there is a link to it from the
>> clusterlabs/pacemaker github page.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>> Alain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
>>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>> Date :  30/07/2012 08:30
>>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>> sorry but I  don't understand what you mean by "the stand-alone
> version
>>> of
>>>> the shell"  ?
>>>
>>> The shell is now a separate project.
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> De :    Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net>
>>>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>>> Date :  30/07/2012 05:59
>>>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of
> unordered
>>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:02 PM,  <alain.mou...@bull.net> wrote:
>>>>> I've found in the mailing-list messages the syntax I could have
>> written
>>>>> with crm configure edit , something like :
>>>>> order order-g-FS  inf:  ( fs-A fs-B fs-C fs-D fs-E ) ( exportfs-fs-A
>>>>> exportfs-fs-B  exportfs-fs-C exportfs-fs-D  exportfs-fs-E )
>>>>> right ?
>>>>> But with my pacemaker release , crm configure edit returns a syntax
>>>> error
>>>>> around the first "("
>>>>> so I think it is not supported with my release 1.1.5-5 , right ?
>>>>
>>>> You probably want to be using the stand-alone version of the shell.
>>>> Its likely to be far more up-to-date than the bundled one.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for confirmation.
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> De :    alain.mou...@bull.net
>>>>> A :     General Linux-HA mailing list <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>>>> Date :  27/07/2012 12:47
>>>>> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of
>> unordered
>>>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> OK for mount of FS , that's not the real thing which matters for me,
>>>>> but I'm quite sure that the parallelisation of exportfs stop, when
> the
>>>>> OCF_RESKEY_wait_for_leasetime is set, is
>>>>> valuable and even quite mandatory, as I do not want to add the sleep
>> of
>>>>> the 5 exportfs even with a reduced value
>>>>> for the wait_for_leastime which is 90s by default. I would like to
> set
>>>> it
>>>>> to around 10s, but in parallel for the 5 exportfs.
>>>>> Without paralleization, NFS clients will for sure get timeouts before
>>>> the
>>>>> end of migration of the FS and exportfs resource group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, my question was more about the configuration of 6.6 example
>>> than
>>>>> the behavior of server nfs in HA ... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> De :    "Ulrich Windl" <ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
>>>>> A :     <linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org>
>>>>> Date :  27/07/2012 11:47
>>>>> Objet : [Linux-HA] Antw: How to configure ordered sets of unordered
>>>>> resources as described in Pacemaker doc ?
>>>>> Envoyé par :    linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> While your idea sounds good, I doubt whether parallel mounts being
>>> tried
>>>>> are actually being performed in parallel, just as the exportfs
>>>> operations.
>>>>>
>>>>> They all access some common data structures in the kernel, I guess.
> In
>>>>> that case, the timeout values may need adjustments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Despite of that some RAs may show amazing behavior if executed in
>>>> parallel
>>>>>
>>>>> (I guess) ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Ulrich
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <alain.mou...@bull.net> schrieb am 27.07.2012 um 09:15 in
> Nachricht
>>>>> <of7cf1dd89.6edcc5c6-onc1257a48.0025bf70-c1257a48.0027c...@bull.net>:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now I had a group with several Filesystem resources followed by
>>> the
>>>>>> exportfs like this :
>>>>>> group g-FS-EXPORTED    fs-A   fs-B   fs-C   fs-D   fs-E
> exportfs-fs-A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> exportfs-fs-B  exportfs-fs-C exportfs-fs-D  exportfs-fs-E \
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I would like to have all the FS mounted before all the exportfs
>>>> BUT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> with sequential=false for all Filesystem primitives and
>>>> sequential=false
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> also for all exportfs primitives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw in the Pacemaker Configuration Explained documentation the
>>>>>> Example 6.11. Ordered sets of unordered resources
>>>>>> with two ressources A & B starting in parallel and before two
>>>> ressources
>>>>>
>>>>> C
>>>>>> & D starting also starting in parallel. I think this
>>>>>> is exactly what I need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1/ I have to remove the group configuration g-FS-EXPORTED , right ?
>>>>>>         or could I have such constraints "inside" the group itself ?
>>>>>> (based on documentation, I don't think so)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2/ How can I enter the ordered set of unordered resources in the
>>>>>> configuration ?
>>>>>>    (in documentation, the examples are given in xml, whereas we
> can't
>>>>> edit
>>>>>> the xml cib file,
>>>>>>     and in crm configure order, I can't see the way to do it :
>>>>>>         usage: order <id> score-type: <first-rsc>[:<action>]
>>>>>> <then-rsc>[:<action>]   [symmetrical=<bool>]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3/ After this configuration, that means that I can't manage the
> start
>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> stop of all these resources with only one command
>>>>>>     as it was the case with the group  ? meaning that I have to
>> launch
>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> start command on the 10 primitives ? instead of
>>>>>>     the start command on the group ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your help on this.
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
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