Linux-Hardware Digest #621, Volume #9 Wed, 10 Mar 99 15:13:51 EST
Contents:
Celeron and SMP ? (Ulrich Leodolter)
Re: user app can crash Linux? (Dave Andruczyk)
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SMC Utra and kernel 2.2.1 question ("Keith A. Folske")
Re: Disk Mirroring (Silvio Romagnoli)
Re: Matrox Millenium I under svgalib ("xcvb")
why AMD386 = GenuineIntel? (Georg Schwarz)
Re: Celeron and SMP ? (Daniele Bernardini)
Re: Creative Labs Awe32 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Eicon DIVA 2.01 ISA PnP [isdncard] ("blader")
Re: CD RW - Awful simple question (Walter B Kulecz, PhD)
Re: iomega jazz drives (Xingdong Ji)
FSCK crash at boottime... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help Asus P2B-DS owners! ("Gary J Sanderson")
SB PCI64: 4 Speakers? (Stef)
Diamond FireGL 4000 anyone? (Charlie Fulton)
Re: Speed..Speed..Speed ("Jeffrey J. Potoff")
HELP PRINT ("Roberto Picciol")
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From: Ulrich Leodolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Celeron and SMP ?
Date: 10 Mar 1999 15:48:54 +0100
Will Intel Celeron CPU's work on dual PII Motherboards ?
What about the performance compared to PII CPU's ?
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o------------------------------------------------o
Ulrich Leodolter
University of Vienna, Institute of Psychology
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:59:51 -0500
From: Dave Andruczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: user app can crash Linux?
Using the pam_env module can stop excessive USER memory usage. It can't stop a
runaway ROOT process. IT works very well for my site to help control some of the
more "troublesome" users..
dave
Tom Herman wrote:
> Sounds like you exceeded swap space. I exceeded swap space
> on a 2.1.xxx kernel last year. My machine crashed.
>
> Options are the usual:
>
> 1) Add more swap space.
> 2) Add more memory
> 3) Conserve memory by shutting down unused apps.
> 4) Figure out how to get Linux to gracefully handle
> the situation.
>
> HTH
>
> Tom
> --
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have the following question: is it normal that a simple application run
> > from a regular user account to make the machine unusable?
> >
> > The following situation happened on a P2 laptop with 128M of RAM and 108M of
> > swap and running linux-2.0.34 (shipped with RH5.1). The machine was running
> > only the Xserver and fvwm: From a regular user account I started an Xgraph
> > application on a really big file (19 megs). Xgraph is a program that wastes
> > memory, but otherwise an ordinary one. After a while, when it became obvious
> > that Xgraph will not be able to finish its job (the system started to trash
> > the HDD) I tried to kill it. But any command given from a secondary xterm
> > (ls, kill, rm etc.) simply dumped the core. Furthermore, the shell from which
> > I started Xgraph announced that there is no VM available anymore. The single
> > working solution was to do a hard reset.
> >
> > What can I do to prevent a regular user to put the machine into such
> > situation? Can I limit the resource allocation to a given process? Why the
> > kernel did not protect itself?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Serban
> >
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> --
> The views expressed are the author's and do not necessarily
> reflect the official position of GTE or any of its subsidiaries
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: 10 Mar 1999 09:11:43 +0000
gwizz@gwazz.* (Phil Stevens) writes:
> The first three newsgroups are in the comp.* hierarchy, which was
> not exclusive to the UK last time I checked. Pay attention, please.
Well, the original poster of the dollar price sent their article to
uk.comp.os.linux as well as all the others, so presumably they thought
their article was relevant to that newsgroup.
Followups set.
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http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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From: "Keith A. Folske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMC Utra and kernel 2.2.1 question
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:26:41 -0600
I am running kernel 2.2.1 and am using a SMC Ultra NIC card. There is no
message in the boot log to show that it found the card, but isapnptools
finds the card. How do I get the kernel to find it and assign it to eth0 or
eth1? I assume that is what it is supposed to do.
I have pnp support compiled into the kernel.
Thanks,
Keith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Silvio Romagnoli)
Subject: Re: Disk Mirroring
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:12:40 GMT
On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:48:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wizzy) wrote:
>Howdy. Is there any way to set up disk mirroring or disk duplexing
>under Linux without expensive RAID hardware? [...]
I'm interested in that topic too.
Please reply also here.
TIA
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From: "xcvb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium I under svgalib
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:17:04 GMT
Hi Allen,
For card selection, select generic svga and select matrox 8mb and make the
appropriate resolution like 800x600, this should work but do not select
matrox millenium ii. Thanks
Raj
Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7c4hh4$h8a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> What version of X are you running? Which distribution? What kernel?
What
> patchlevels are both the Xfree86 and kernel at?
>
> I run the original millenium w/ 8 Mb RAM at up to 1024 x 768, 24bpp and
that's
> only 'cause the monitor on that machine won't go higher?
>
> On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:26:38 -0600, Timothy MacDonald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have a Matrox Millenium I ( the original ) and I would like to be able
> >to run progs at 640x480 under svgalib, but so far it will only go
> >320x200.... anybody have any clues? ( I have started messing around with
> >the GGI svgalib wrapper with little success ).
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> > Timothy MacDonald
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Allen
>
>
> (email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
> onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
> PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: why AMD386 = GenuineIntel?
Date: 10 Mar 1999 14:17:05 GMT
On an AMD 386 DX 33 Linux 2.0.36's /proc/cpuinfo reports:
cpu : 386
model : 386 SX/DX
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
Bug or feature?
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Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron and SMP ?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:30:13 +0100
Ulrich Leodolter wrote:
>
> Will Intel Celeron CPU's work on dual PII Motherboards ?
> What about the performance compared to PII CPU's ?
>
> --
> o------------------------------------------------o
> Ulrich Leodolter
> University of Vienna, Institute of Psychology
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> o------------------------------------------------o
It is not straight forward you need to mess up with the chip!
have a look here:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/dualceleron/
BTW I really don't like intel policy: they disable a feature
of one of their CPU (the celeron, which could do SMP as well
as the PII) to sell another one (the PII) at an higher price!
All this just to get rid of AMD!! I will not buy a single piece of
Intel hardware until they behave this way...
Regards,
Daniele
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Sektion Theoretische Physik, LMU Muenchen
Theresienstr. 37, 80805 Muenchen DEUTSCHLAND
Tel: +49 (89) 23944378
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ls-wess.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~dani/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Creative Labs Awe32
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:26:12 GMT
On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 18:02:55 GMT, egray7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>dooogh! wrote:
>
>> Have you tried sndconfig?
>
>Can't, don't have any such program. But I have managed to figure out
>how to get some things working properly through an older message I
>found that said to put some "insmod" stuff in the
>rc.d file. That worked. Except for using the AWE32's midi
>system. For that, I need the AWE utils at
>http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/ but unfortunately, I
>can't figure out how to
>install it....there are binaries there, but while the awesfx one seems
>to work, the drvmidi doesn't. Think it is set for some other version
>of Linux or something. Can anyone help with doing that?
>
First you must have a properly edited isapnp.conf
file to get the awe32 initialized. There are many
copies floating around to show you what to do,
I can send you a copy if you don't have one.
Second you need to apply the patch to a clean kernel source code.
Do a "make mrproper" in your kernel source directory.
Then unpack the awe patch you got from the above url.
Then run the install script that comes with the patch.
It will find your kernel source code, and patch the sound
files. If it dosn't make sure you have a symbolic link @linux
pointing to your kernel source in /usr/src.
Next you need to recompile your kernel, with sound as
module, and enable low-level drivers for the awe.
You just do the standard kernel compilation.
make dep make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install
Don't forget to run lilo again to install your new kernel .
Then reboot.
To turn sound on "insmod sound"
To turn sound off "rmmod sound"
To check sound " cat /dev/sndstat"
If you want to use fancy soundfont banks, copy
the sfxload utility to somewhere in your path, like /usr/bin.
Then type "sfxload synthgm.sfx" ; which will load the
soundfont bank synthgm.sfx.
You can put this command in your boot.local file to
automatically turn sound on at boot time.
For example, in boot.local put:
insmod sound
sfxload synthgm.sfx
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From: "blader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Eicon DIVA 2.01 ISA PnP [isdncard]
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:07:42 +0100
Hi..
I am trying to install my isdncard under linux.
When I use pnpdump and isapnp it works great..
But when i try to load it in the hisax module i get:
Device or resource busy
I'll copy some stuff here..
##hisax output + modprobe command:
Board 2 has Identy 89 00 01 11 22 a1 00 89 1c: GDI00a1 erial No 69922
[checksum 89]
Executing CONFIGURE GDI00a1/69922
Found board GDI00a1/p9922 as Card Select Numer 2
Executing LD 4
Executing 0
Executing IRQ 10
Executing MODE +E
Executing 0
Executing BASE 0x0240
Executing Y
Executing WAITFORKEY
[root@blah /etc]# modprobe hisax io=0x0240 irq=10
./lib/modules/preffered/misc/hisax.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
## cat /proc/ioports :
0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-009f: dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0220-022f : soundblaster
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0376-0376 : ide1
0388-038b : Yamahe OPL3
03c0-03df : vga+
03f7-03ff : serial(auto)
f000-f007 : IDE DMA
f008-f00f : IDE DMA
## cat /proc/interrupts :
0: 89009 timer
1: 1254 keyboard
2: 0 cascade
4: 3660 + serial
5: 0 soundblaster
8: 1 + rtc
13: 1 math error
14: 4 + ide0
15: 4940 + ide1
##i don't think the ports i used are allready used.
##But i added the ports i can use for my isdncard
##just to be sure.. ;) (got this with pnpdump)
# Minimum IO base address 0x0200
# Maximum IO base address 0x03e0
I think i need a special driver or something..
I just don't know ;)
I tryed several io's and irq's, but I always get the same :(
I also tryed with recompiling kernel with diva.diehl , but
thats not working (because mine is a PnP I think).
Plz help me with this lame card 'cause I really wanna
use Linux for the Net !! ;)
BLAdER was here.
note: when you wanna chat, use server irc.hhp.be (port: 6669) ;ppp
Maybe this is useful to explain me what i should do..
I'm always in #opers ..
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From: killspam@wkulecz$pam$uck$.bigfoot.com (Walter B Kulecz, PhD)
Subject: Re: CD RW - Awful simple question
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:05:53 GMT
In article <MxVE2.3652$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I wrote:
>
>> >And still there are restrictions. You only get about 500 megs of data
>> >space on a packet CD, and when you delete files, the space used by
>> >them is not reclaimable.
>
>According to Julian Schanze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Thats wrong.. Thats the thing with CD -Rs but not with CD-RWs... you can
>> delete CD -RWs.
>
>You can erase the disk and re-record on it, but you cannot reclaim the
>space used by deleted files without erasing and re-formatting the
>entire disk. At least not with a UDF filesystem.
^^^^without
>
>I should caveat this with the fact that I've never actually *used* the
>UDF filesystem -- my knowledge comes merely from what I've read.
You've got it wrong. I'm a generally happy user of Adaptec's DirectCD
with winNT4 and their free UDF1.5 reader. Wish it worked with Linux.
Basically the UDF format and CD-RW drive is a big 500+ MB floppy. In
a "mulitread" CDROM supported by the UDF1.5 reader its a readonly disk
like a normal CD-R only smaller, but you have to have the special UDF
driver installed to read it.
Under linux as far as I've been able to tell, all you can do is write
an ISO or Joliet image and bulk erase the RW media to reuse.
As someone else said very nice for tar.gz archives.
--wally.
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From: Xingdong Ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iomega jazz drives
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:06:24 -0500
Paul Sian wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pas Moi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >> "d" == doug wrote on Tue, 09 Mar 1999 07:02:37 -0500:
> >
> > d> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> does anyone know anything about support/drivers for Iomega Jazz
> > >> drives on linux?
> > >>
> > d> I know that my Jaz works great, and has from the start.
> >
> > i know my jaz drive is dead as a doorknob after very light use.
> > considering its low quality and expensive media, it's a long-run
> > loser. big time. go with something else, i wish i had.
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > g.y.
> >
>
> They've got the new orb drives out now. 199 for the drive with one disk.
> additional disks are 30 bucks. Each holds 2.2 GB of info. Yeah 2.2GB for
> only 30 bucks.
> www.computability.com has the parallel, scsi and ide.
> Pretty sure one the scsi and parallel. I think they have the ide version.
> USB version coming soon. But in order to get the output that the orb can
> give you you should go with scsi.
>
> --
> Please remove -NOSPAM to reply via email.
Anyone tried this new ORD drives(SCSI) under linux? Although it should
work
under a compatible SCSI adapter.
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FSCK crash at boottime...
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:49:44 GMT
Hi there, i was hoping someone could help me...
I moved my box a couple inches when it was on, and it blacked out...so I
rebooted, and now fsck gives the following on bootup:
/dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00172227
current->tss.cr3 = 05e95000, %cr3 = 05e95000
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[<c21233e5>]
EFLAGS: 00010203
eax: c2123340 ebx: c21233e0 ecx: 00172227 edx: 00000301
esi: c01233e5 edi: 00172227 ebp: 00000001 esp: c5e53d14
ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Process fsck.ext2 (pid: 10, process nr: 6, stackpage=c5e53000)
Stack: c01231d4 00000000 00000007 c5e53e9c 00000000 c2123440 030130e0
c0126335
00000301 00172227 00000400 c001e5c0 ffffffea 00000000 00002000
08048000
00000000 00000000 0000000a 00000004 00000301 00000000 00000002
00000008
Call Trace: [<c01231d4>] [<c0126335>] [<c01954c5>] [<c0108bb7>] [<c0188f56>]
[<c0137f37>] [<c01953b8>]
[<c0199a56>] [<c010b6d7>] [<c010f70b>] [<c0115c69>] [<c0108c13>]
[<c0107a90>] [<c010b6d7>] [<c010b6d7>]
[<c010f70b>] [<c010f7e6>] [<c010b6d7>] [<c010f70b>] [<c010f7e6>]
[<c01219f9>] [<c0121bb6>] [<c01079d4>]
Code: 22 17 00 00 04 00 00 01 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 35 12 c2 00
Warning... fsck.ext2 for device /dev/hda1 exited with signal 11.
**************************************
fsck returned error code - REBOOT NOW!
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i'm pretty lost at what to do...can anyone help? thanks...
-Josh
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From: "Gary J Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Asus P2B-DS owners!
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:29:49 -0000
I have a Asus P2B-S and I had to install RH5.1 from an IDE CDROM I robbed
from somewhere - (I was putting Linux on its own IDE drive so the SCSI
problem was only apparent when installing) - however RH5.2 installed without
a hitch, finding the SCSI stuff straight away.
I'd suggest getting hold of 5.2 and junking 5.1
HTH, Gary.
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From: Stef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SB PCI64: 4 Speakers?
Date: 10 Mar 1999 17:03:54 +0100
The Creative Soundblaster PCI64 has two seperate stereo
outputs. Creative claim, that only certain games using Direct5x or
above in Win95 can use this 4 speaker feature.
Ist it possible to use the four channels with linux?
Stef
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ETH Zurich
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From: Charlie Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diamond FireGL 4000 anyone?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:10:37 -0500
hello to all, i've posted this in a few news groups over the past couple
of months with no response, thought I would try here now as well.
are any of you wonderful (*really mean that :) *) linux driver
developers writing anything for this card? It is a really expensive card
that we have to use at work for some molecular modeling programs in NT,
and it's just a shame I can't get any higher than 640x480 (although
still better than NT <g>).
thanks in advance,
-Charlie.
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From: "Jeffrey J. Potoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Speed..Speed..Speed
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:08:03 -0500
wizard wrote:
>
> Jim Moser wrote:
>
> > Am currently running a K6-2 300Mhz processor with 128Mb of 100 Mhz
> > memory and considering
> > upgrading to a faster board and processor. I am pursuing a project which
> > will require scads of floating point
> > calculations on large arrays..the results of which are written back out
> > to disk..about 500 Mbytes worth.
> > So I'm looking at the new high end processors..PII/PIII and discover
> > this PII Xeon chip.
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience with this chip? It very expensive..about
> > $900. A dual Xeon board from
> > SuperMicro with both processors runs over $2000. So how much faster is
> > this chip? Intel's web site
> > says it has a 512K L2 cache (even more expensive versions have 1Mb and
> > 2Mb cache) which runs
> > at PROCESSOR SPEED .. 400 Mhz in this case. The comparable PII-400 chip
> > has a smaller(?) L2 cache
> > which runs at 1/2 chip speed. The comparable AMD K6-2 400 chip has a 1Mb
> > L2 cache but it is off chip
> > and accessed by the 100 Mhz bus.
> >
> > So there you have it. Is the Xeon really worth double the PII price or
> > triple the K6-2 price?
> > As far as I can see.. the main difference is the L2 cache speed. Has
> > anybody seen any benchmarks
> > on this chip vis-a-via "comparable chips?
> >
> > Jim M.
>
> Jim;
>
> If you intend to develope and run this software under LINUX then why are
> you even looking at a Intel chip. Simply put NONE of the Intel chips are
> floating point standouts.
They aren't standouts, but they are cheap and get the job done. I favor
the Alpha CPU for FP intensive work, but Intel chips are a cost effective
solution in many cases.
> If your seriously considering chips in the
> XEON line, then a Alpha is not out of the price range, nor would a PowerPC
> based machine. You might even be able to find a SPARC in this price
> range.
Yeah, but why ? Intel is cheap and will have a much better price/performance
ratio than any Sun platform. These days it really seems that it's down to
Intel or Alpha if you are doing computational work.
> Start looking for Alpha powered units from Microway, ASPEN or
> DCG to name just a few.
>
> The nice thing about a totally open system like Linux is the freedom to
> choose the hardware of you choice.
Totally open, but the compilers aren't so hot.
Jeff
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From: "Roberto Picciol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP PRINT
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:51:11 +0100
Hello
I'm Roby.
(RedHat 5.2, Kernel 2.0.36)
I have a problem with my Cannon Bj4300 when I want print something with
Netscape or Xemacs.
The output printer is :
Unrecoverable errror: rangecheck in .putdeviceprops.......
I can print a file with command lpr -Plella namefile without problems.
In Netscape I have setup print with: lpr -Plella
only.
Thank you
Roby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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