Linux-Hardware Digest #832, Volume #14 Sun, 27 May 01 20:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: home web/file server specs? (Trevor Hemsley)
Re: Trying to add RAM to my old Pentium 133MHz machine ("Ender")
Re: ZIP drive (Marcus)
Re: Back up in Linux ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Trying to add RAM to my old Pentium 133MHz machine (Marcus)
Promise Fastrak Driver Port ("Stuart Cianos")
Re: Resize the swap file? (C McPherson)
Re: VIA Apollo Southbridge again (C McPherson)
Re: compaq prosignia 300 network-card problems with tlan.o (Michael F.)
Re: Back up in Linux (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: IRQ change (Dances With Crows)
Re: Is Dell workstation GX150 supported by RH 7.0 ? (Dances With Crows)
Re: how to set console colors (Dances With Crows)
Re: TDK 12/10/32 CD-Rewriter and Mandrake Linux 8.0 (Dances With Crows)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor Hemsley)
Subject: Re: home web/file server specs?
Date: 27 May 2001 20:35:28 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 20:09:52, "Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is SCSI a must for even a low traffic web page, or will IDE RAID do? I was
> thinking of two 75GB IBM Deskstars with a promise fastrak pci Raid
> controller doing raid 0.
Given that the SCSI drives that I have in that machine are ancient
(Seagate ST32550W and HP C2490) and outperformed by a factor of about
400% by modern IDE drives, I suspect that you could easily use IDE. I
doubt if you need RAID.
--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK.
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From: "Ender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Trying to add RAM to my old Pentium 133MHz machine
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:41:44 GMT
You have the wrong ram if you have PC-133, thats SDRAM and a system as old
as yours would use either EDO or maybe FPM...if you go into the bios setup
it probably tells you if your using EDO or FPM, whichever it is get more of
the same, some boards can use either but you don't want to mix it....EDO is
most common
--
Ender
"Rajesh Radhakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I tried to add to my Pentium 133Mhz machine from 48MB an another PNY
> 128MB RAM which used the PC133 RAM type which connected to the SIMM
> connector(i think). I was told by CompUSA that the memory can't be
> installed as it didn't interface to my 66MHz Bus.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check system parameters I need to be
> aware of on my system before buying the memory and what type of memory I
> could buy from the internet.
>
> Thanks
> Rajesh
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From: Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP drive
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:11:46 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ferrante wrote:
> Hi!
> I owe an Iomega paralell port 100Mb ZIP drive and I've got some problems
> accessing from Mandrake 8. I've compiled my kernel with SCSI support (disk
> and generic, as modules), the Iomega paralell port drive (old) and paralell
> port support (IEEE 1284 mode).
> When I try to mount it I get a 'I can't find the device' error. I've tried
> with the Iomega tool iw and I get a similar error, but the drive keeps
> mounted! I mean, I can eject the disk (I can't access to their content
> anyway).
> I have a HP Deskjet printer connected through the drive, and it works.
> Any idea?
> Best regards
>
> Ferrante
>
I think the info in the Mini-HOWTO is a bit old. Zip drives are
considered to be ide-floppy drives in the 2.4 kernel. I have one, and it
works fine even though there's no SCSI support in my kernel (not even
modules). Is your kernel compiled with "Parallel port IDE device support"
(under "Block devices") and "Include IDE/ATAPI FLOPPY support" (under "IDE,
ATA and ATAPI Block devices", which is in the IDE et al. submenu)?
Marcus
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.windows.x.kde,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Back up in Linux
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:07:31 GMT
"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Jerry Wong wrote:
> > >
> > > I used to backup the windows by Ghost software. In linux, can the
command "tar"
> > > be used like Ghost. I means to backup the whole Linux system by tar it
and
> > > restore it when necessary. I have windows98 and two Linux system in my
PC
> > > (Red Hat 7.0 and Mandrake 8.0), so I can tar one of them when running
the other.
> > >
> > > Is it possible? Please give me some advice.
> >
> > tar is okay for groups of files, but NOT good for the entire system.
> >
> > learn to use dump, and/or BRU or Arkeia.
>
> dump is not a sufficient solution either. linus had a few comments
> about this on linux-kernel about a month ago. it seems that the only
> way to get a clean snapshot of the disk partition is to unmount it
> first and then save. this is especially true of the journalling
> filesystems.
Tar is actually better than dump at dealing with an active filesystem
but neither will handle the case where multiple files must be saved
as a snapshot of a consistent state. What we need is kernel support
to freeze the 'real' filesystem while letting the system continue to work
with changes staying in the buffers or paging out to swap if necessary - and
of course, a way for the backup utility to read the frozen copy.
Les Mikesell
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From: Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trying to add RAM to my old Pentium 133MHz machine
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:18:32 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rajesh Radhakrishnan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to add to my Pentium 133Mhz machine from 48MB an another PNY
> 128MB RAM which used the PC133 RAM type which connected to the SIMM
> connector(i think). I was told by CompUSA that the memory can't be
> installed as it didn't interface to my 66MHz Bus.
Here's the real problem. All PC133 RAM comes in the form of "DIMMs",
or "double-sided inline memory modules". A Pentium 133 would use the older
"SIMMs", or "single-sided inline memory modules". You need SIMMs. Also, as
someone else pointed out, those SIMMs will probably be FPM or EDO ram. DIMMs
are usually SDram, which is a different type than what you need.
You should probably go to a computer store and have them select and
install the memory for you. That way, it'll get done right, plus if there
are any problems, you can complain to them.
> Any suggestions on what I should check system parameters I need to be
> aware of on my system before buying the memory and what type of memory I
> could buy from the internet.
When you boot up, is there a point, before Linux starts, where
there's a white text box at the top of the screen which shows a bunch of
information like serial port addresses? If so, you should see either "FPM"
or "EDO" on a line which says "Type of memory installed" or something like
that. Whatever it says, get that kind.
Marcus
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From: "Stuart Cianos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Promise Fastrak Driver Port
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:26:22 -0700
Dear Colleagues:
I am unsure if anyone has considered this in the past, but judging by
Promise Inc.'s terribly slow support of the Linux 2.4 kernel and failure to
release drivers that work with it, why don't we port the BSD Fastrak drivers
to Linux and implement it right...
- Stuart
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From: C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Resize the swap file?
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:08:24 -0400
> Well I wouldn't think so, but I didn't know if Linux had some builtin
> partition utility that would do it. I don't think Partition Magic will
> will it?
>
> Liam
>
>
> Brian Davis wrote:
> >
> > There's no way to put that reclaimed space in the root partition, is there?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > "Chris Elvidge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Liam Watts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've been monitoring my swap file, and it almost never gets over 5%
> > > > used.
> > > > I have 128 MB RAM and 250 MB swap file. That's a lot of unused HD space
> > > > I'd like to get back.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to resize that partition and reapply the space to the
> > > > root partition? Or at least take a chunk of it as another partition?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any assistance!!
> > > >
> > > > Liam
> > >
> > > Single mode. Swapoff. Fdisk. Delete swap partition. New patritions size
> > > x and 250-x. Make one type 83, other 82. Write and quit. mkswap
> > > /dev/hd{whatever}. Swapon. Reboot. makefs /dev/hd{otherwhatever}.
>
I just resized my swap partition using partition magic. Worked good.
-Clyde
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From: C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIA Apollo Southbridge again
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:28:12 -0400
I ran your tests (don't have 4gigs on linux) so the test was smaller. I
copied 1 gig of small files from promise master to secondary and vice-
versa and no difference. Then I swapped to the VIA controller and did the
same, no difference. I am running with BIOS 1004. I had to install RH 7.1
fresh, after wiping out my linux and windows partitions (the new
motherboard and my disks couldn't agree on the ID).
> It´s definitly the board (probalbly southbridge) - I even swapped the
> Chassis (Power-Transformator). As I posted I have the problems (with
> many small files) on the Onboard-Promise-Controller _and_ the
> Onboard-VIA-Controller.
> I don´t know if the PCI-Bus is handled by the Southbridge, but I guess
> it´s a PCI-problem.
>
> After your installation please do the same tests and let me know...
>
> (I will test the board now under WIN98SE with the new VIA
> 4in1-Drivers)
>
> C. C. McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > I noticed your post and the motherboard you are using, I am
> > installing my A7V133 this week (hopefuly linux will still
> > run). Are you sure that the VIA southbridge is causing you
> > problems? Could it be the promise controller and RedHat,
> > according to this NG there are some issues. Promise did have
> > drivers for Kernel 2.2 but I don't know if they have them
> > for 2.4. You might want to check out the Promise web/ftp
> > sites.
> >
> > -Clyde
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I still have problems with the VIA Apollo southbridge (Kernel 2.4.2 (Redhat 7.1)
>and Kernel 2.4.4).
> > >
> > > In rare circumstances,
> > > there ist still file-corruption. I use an ASUS A7V133 (Revision 1.05,
> > > including Sound + Raid). My tests:
> > >
> > > - copying 4 GB of CD-ISO-Files from Promise Secondary Master to Promise
> > > Secondary Slave. After that "diff -r srcdir destdir". Test was
> > > succesfull, no differs, even after 15 executions
> > >
> > > - (same test with small files)
> > > copying 4GB of small files (50 to 500 KB) from Promise Secondary Master
> > > to Promise Secondary Slave.
> > > 1st run of "diff -r srcdir destdir" -> no differs
> > > 2nd run of "diff -r srcdir destdir" -> 2 files differ
> > > 3rd run of "diff -r srcdir destdir" -> 1 file differs
> > > 4th run of "diff -r srcdir destdir" -> 1 file differs
> > > 5th run of "diff -r srcdir destdir" -> no differs
> > >
> > > - I d did the same tests on the Promise Primary, same results. Also on
> > > the the VIA Secondary but my feeling is that there are even more
> > > corruptions.
> > >
> > > I stripped the machine to the bone, PCI-VGA only, same results.
> > >
> > > I cannot say for sure, but before I stripped my adaptec SCSI-Card, there
> > > may even been "differs" after copying from SCSI-Disk to SCSI-Disk. Off
> > > course I thought other parts of my Hardware was flacky (e.g. RAM...),
> > > but I swapped everything: RAM from different manufacturers, IDE-Cables,
> > > CPU (Duron 900 -> Duron 850), VGA-Card, I tried the most conservative
> > > Setting in the A7V-Bios, Bios-Update 1003 -> 1004 -> 1004 beta3, UDMA6->UDMA2
>all to no avail.
> > >
> > > Any hints?
> > > <TP>
> > >
>
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From: Michael F. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compaq prosignia 300 network-card problems with tlan.o
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:28:40 +1000
The TLAN module will not work with this unit, and from the top of
memory I can't recall which one I used in a similar system, try
looking at the docs with the linux kernel source. It should point you
in right direction.
On Sat, 26 May 2001 12:35:14 +0200, "Julian Jöris"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>Here some Date of the compaq prosignia 300:
>
>SUSE 7.1 Linux Kernel 2.4.0-4GB (standart SUSE Pentium optimized)
>
>Prozessor: 90 MHZ Pentium
>
>The Compaq Brochure says:
>"Integrated NetFlex-L ENET"
>
>It is Tower!
>
>Julian
>
>Michael F. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> You absolutely sure you have the correct module, the TLAN is for
>> thunderlan cards. That server you have I recall as being not a
>> thunderlan adapter.
>> Could you quote me the cpu specs and stuff, it might job my memory. Is
>> it a tower?
>
>> On Fri, 25 May 2001 00:56:42 +0200, "Julian Jöris"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >I have Problems to install my network-onbord-card (netflex) in a Compaq
>> >prosignia 300 server.
>> >the module tlan.o is installed, but it needs special parameters!
>> >Does anybody know them?
>> >
>> >thx
>> >
>> >Julian
>> >
>>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.windows.x.kde,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Back up in Linux
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:02:50 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Les Mikesell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sun, 27 May 2001 21:07:31 GMT
<n0eQ6.7900$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > > Jerry Wong wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I used to backup the windows by Ghost software. In linux, can the
>command "tar"
>> > > be used like Ghost. I means to backup the whole Linux system by tar it
>and
>> > > restore it when necessary. I have windows98 and two Linux system in my
>PC
>> > > (Red Hat 7.0 and Mandrake 8.0), so I can tar one of them when running
>the other.
>> > >
>> > > Is it possible? Please give me some advice.
>> >
>> > tar is okay for groups of files, but NOT good for the entire system.
>> >
>> > learn to use dump, and/or BRU or Arkeia.
>>
>> dump is not a sufficient solution either. linus had a few comments
>> about this on linux-kernel about a month ago. it seems that the only
>> way to get a clean snapshot of the disk partition is to unmount it
>> first and then save. this is especially true of the journalling
>> filesystems.
>
>Tar is actually better than dump at dealing with an active filesystem
>but neither will handle the case where multiple files must be saved
>as a snapshot of a consistent state. What we need is kernel support
>to freeze the 'real' filesystem while letting the system continue to work
>with changes staying in the buffers or paging out to swap if necessary - and
>of course, a way for the backup utility to read the frozen copy.
I'm surprised this sort of thing hasn't been done yet; it is exactly
analogous to a database snapshot -- the idea being that, once a transaction
is begun, the set of records is consistent and stays consistent
(e.g., edits, deletes, and additions are only seen by the editing program)
until a commit.
(Does anyone know/remember what VMS's ODB2 did?)
Not sure how well NTFS implements this, admittedly -- but Microsoft
has made some noises about their so-called journaling filesystem.
But AFAIK that's all they are: noises. (Their MFT does seem to make
a lot of noise on my disk drive... :-) )
One nice thing about Linux: most of the system may be open for read,
but apart from such apps as postgresql (which is important!), it's
not clear that restoring a system backed up while it was running
is going to cause problems. (Postgresql is a special case, but
not part of the OS. I don't know offhand whether one can back up
its files while it is working or not, and how well it handles
a restore later.) Of course, one must be careful to restore the
system on a drive that's not already running another system...
[.sigsnip]
--
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EAC code #191 27d:05h:27m actually running Linux.
[select one]
All hail the Invisible Pink Unicorn (pbuh)!
You were expecting something relevant down here?
Does this message really exist? Where?
This is a pithy statement. Please watch where you pith.
I'm here, you're there, and that's pretty much it.
I am, you are, he, she, and it is, but they're not.
No protons were harmed during this message.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: IRQ change
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2001 00:10:33 GMT
On Sat, 26 May 2001 11:48:50 +0200, alik blochin staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>my ethernet and sound card (on board VIA AC'97) are sharing one irq 11
>how do i change it? do i have to mess with bios setup or do it
>manually in linux ?
This shouldn't be a problem, as other posters pointed out. PCI devices
should be able to share IRQs. If this netcard is ISA, then it can't do
that, but ISA cards should either have jumpers you can fiddle with or a
thing you can run from DOS to change the settings in the card's EEPROM.
If this is a PCI device and you're having problems with IRQ sharing, the
simplest thing to do is move the PCI card to a different slot.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Is Dell workstation GX150 supported by RH 7.0 ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2001 00:10:36 GMT
On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:48:08 +0800, GARNET staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>As titled, I'm installing a Dell GX150 and I just can't get it right!
>CPU PIII 866
>256 MB RAM
>40 GB HDD (Seagate I believe)
>on board NIC(3 COM)
>I've installed smoothly,but it just doesn't boot at all .
More information, please. Did you install LILO, and if so, where did
you install it? Do you get the dreaded "LI" error upon boot, or the
endlessly repeating 010101 error, or what? Did you do as the install
procedure suggested and make a boot floppy? Can you boot from that?
BTW, that's a pretty sparse list of hardware--what's the IDE chipset,
what's the video card (is this one of those @#$ing i810 machines?),
what's the sound card, is there a LoseModem installed, and was the NIC
recognized? If you can find these pieces of info, the people in this NG
may be able to save you some pain later on....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: how to set console colors
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2001 00:10:35 GMT
On 26 May 2001 14:39:12 GMT, Johannes Zellner staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>how can I set the palette for the console colors.
>Either for the normal console or vesa (791 / 792 modes)
setterm -foreground $COLOR
setterm -background $COLOR
$COLOR can be black, red, green, yellow, blue, magenta, cyan, or white ,
and you can add "bright" as a prefix to most of those. Please note that
any program that uses ncurses to manipulate the screen will overwrite
your setterm settings upon program exit. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: TDK 12/10/32 CD-Rewriter and Mandrake Linux 8.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2001 00:10:34 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 02:28:50 GMT, gobold1y staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>I have a TDK 12/10/32 CD-Rewriter in an otherwise standard system: Asus
>This TDK CD-ROM is installed as an IDE device, not SCSI as is the HD. The
>
>My problem is that when I install Mandrake Linux 8.0 it can't use this
>CD-ROM, even to just read CDs. It lists the TDK CD-ROM drive as a SCSI
>drive on chain 1. Can someone point me to info that tells me how to
>reconfigure the kernel, or how to get linux to at least let me read
>cd-roms (if not record them)?
There should be no need to recompile the kernel! Obviously, the
device has been recognized and the ide-scsi module is loaded if you can
see the device with "cat /proc/scsi/scsi". I think your problem is
simply that /dev/cdrom is pointing at /dev/hdc instead of /dev/scd0 .
Try this:
Insert a data CD
root@yourbox# mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom
This should work. If it did, then do
ln -sf /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom
and you should be able to access this device normally. Use
http://groups.google.com/ and search this NG for keyword "CD-R" if you
have further questions; there's a reasonable amount of good advice
there...
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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