On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2001, Omer Zak wrote about "Guy's Rants about volunteerism":
> > Recently someone posted and asked for suggestions how to get Linux
> > experience.He was open to offers to volunteer his time. I am sure there
> > are several other youngsters in similar situation (before the army, and
> > wanting Linux and/or Webmastering experience).
>
> While this is true, the person who is given the duty of high-level
> administration and security policy (rather than short-term work like "just
> write a script that does '....'") will have to come with a considerable
> amount of Linux/Unix experience - e.g., from administering a personal Linux
> machine.
Would it save Guy's time (and the time of other busy volunteers) if newbie
volunteer/s join and perform more routine tasks (if necessary, under the
supervision of the oldtimers)?
How feasible is to keep a backup of the scripts and config files to be
able to recover from newbie's screwups (except for the mirror disks, of
course)?
> > Another important issue which is considered by someone who is
> > contemplating volunteer work:needed commitment. People with family and
> > jobs are already fully committed to those.They won't accept lightly
> > further commitments, if they are serious.However, then something itches
> > them, they would be willing to scratch the itch.
>
> Right. The way we solved this on the machine running ivrix.org.il, is that
> the same machine also runs the personal home pages and email addresses of
> the people administering it (e.g., it runs nadav.harel.org.il). These have
> negligable effect on the amount of bandwidth/disk/CPU wasted, but have a
> strong effect in keeping the machine relatively well-adminstered (since I'd
> notice if my homepage suddenly went down, and so on). It can also serve as
> a small "bonus" to people helping the effort, or even as a way to blackmail
> them into doing work: imagine you relying on "zak.org" (for example) being
> served by iglu.org.il, and being told that if you don't keep the mirrors up
> to date, zak.org would be dropped :)
Bingo!
Guy, Mulix, Shlomi, Omerm, etc. - get busy preparing carrots and candies
for us busy/lazy/selfish volunteers. :-)
About other suggestions:
1. Sourceforge project? Will be necessary only if we want to give
multiple people write-access to CVS archives. I don't see this
happening.
What is necessary to get read-only access to scripst and configuration
files now?
2. Mailing list for maintainers? Let's use the existing and dormant
mailing list (what are its subscription instructions, again?).
--- Omer
There is no IGLU Cabal. It must first be built.
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