Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> We're Israelies, most of us use Linux as their primary OS - and
> almost all of the mailers supports hebrew - one way or the other..

<a very short list of mailers snipped>

The list is a loooong way from being exhaustive, and I don't think
it's a good idea to force someone to use a different mailer or a
different editor or a different pager just for linux-il (I would
likely find myself in such a position). And Hebrew support is still
young, and who knows what supposedly unrelated features of the
relevant software it breaks. I don't have to explain to anybody here
that Hebrew and Arabic have a much greater chance to break anything
than Western languages or, say, Cyrillic.

> So what are the reasons for not switching our official language here
> from English to Hebrew (not in a day, but rather in a month->2
> months time period)? Please reply and explain your position...

I agree with the sentiment that drives this suggestion, and I think
it's worth at least a discussion, but I think I will vote against it,
for the following reasons.

1) There are currently foreigners on the list. Some Arabs. Some
   Iranians. Probably quite a few people from other countries. I would
   like them to stay.

2) The list will become inaccessible for people who don't know Hebrew,
   nor would be the list's archives.

3) The list will become inaccessible to Hebrew-speaking people who
   never bothered to teach their computers Hebrew. For the record, I
   never did because I never needed it. It is not too farfetched to
   say that some will need to buy new hardware (hint: keyboard), and
   even that might be not feasible (laptops). People who need a third
   alphabet (Arabic, Cyrillic) will have to choose between being able
   to communicate electronically with their friends and relatives
   abroad or with their friends or colleagues on linux-il (I don't
   think keyboards with more than 2 alphabets are easy to find). While
   it is quite reasonable to assume that the population of linux-il is
   proficient, if not fluent, in English, the same cannot be assumed
   about the population of the planet in general. So (some of) the
   multilingual people with interests beyond linux-il will be forced
   to choose. [For the record, I don't have such needs].

4) This is a technical list, technical discussions will be rather
   strongly English-bound anyway. When was the last time you used
   Hebrew terms for "compiler" or "linker" (I am sure some of us
   used one of them the day before yesterday, but I think there is no
   question it's an exception rather than the rule). As a technical
   list it has a broader interest than covered by Israel/Hebrew (see
   items 1 and 2 above). Hebrew would be appropriate for a list
   discussing Hebrew poetry or Israeli politics or sth of the kind.

5) I don't think that any major distribution can be counted upon to
   provide full, consistent Hebrew (Arabic, Cyrillic, Cantonese, etc)
   support for all or most software out of the box. Not any time
   soon. Not with all the diverse components produced by different
   teams in different countries that go into them. This means that it
   is likely that one would need to 1) reconfigure parts of the
   system; 2) change one's working habits. To give an example: I use
   GNUS in XEmacs to read/write emails, I think this combination has
   too many advantages over any other MUA/editor I've used in the
   past, so I have no intention to switch, and I have no idea whether
   they can speak Hebrew (maybe).

My vote is: stay with English. It has worked very well so far, and the
quantity or quality of flames have not suffered because of that.

;-)

-- 
Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
If it aint't broken it hasn't got enough features yet.

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