No, this is the same thing.

This person at main.retal.org.il was sending spam, he tried to use
my mail server, and when was not succeding probably used other
methods.

The point is Actcom does not do anyhting and does not care.

Guy

On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 04:50:22PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 02:23:45PM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote:
> > Yes you are right...
> > 
> > Actcom is very close to lose my vote (and my monthly fee)..
> > 
> > I have informed them 3 times in the last 2 month about spam
> > that is coming from there network. actually to be more specific
> > from 192.115.135.186 (main.retal.co.il). with specific logs of
> > spam attempts from this user to use my mail server as a base of his
> > spam. They did not do anything, and did not even replied to my emails.
> > When I called them they said I should mail them the logs. Which I did.
> > 
> 
> 
>   Is this the same thing? The messages that I got mentioned not taking
> anti spam measures in general. You target attempts to break into your
> system. If a burglar attempts to break into my house I will call the 
> police. In order to prevent his burglary attempts for some extended
> period of time that is more then a few days he should be sued in court.
> As another example, I assume that the situation that you describe might 
> be in some ways similar to the state of affairs of cheque book holders
> who were spreading cheques without having enough money in their bank 
> account to pay for these cheques. There was a state legislation, or at
> least some massive intervention by the state for the banks to take 
> counter measures against those cheque book holders.
> 
> 
> > They still do nothing.
> > 
> > This is absolutly disrespct for good paying customers!!!
> > 
> > I could understand they want that user monthly fee, but I guess if 
> > more people will send them emails telling them they will close their
> > accounts. Maybe then they'll do something. My guess that thmicha.net
> > is just the start and actcom users will start get massive rejects, as
> > today policies are very strict and sometimes ISP closes relay from
> > entire class C's.
> > 
> > Actcom!! Do something or lose me as a client!.
> > 
> 
> 
>   I am missing something. How will your subscription to another ISP
> solve your problem? I mean anyone with net access can try and break into
> your system, can't he?
> 
> 
>   Other then 
>     1. Start using Actcom services lately.
>       2. For the time being, which is only a couple of days, being happy
>        with their lower rates and good service.
>     3. Knowing the company long term standing support for Linux.
> I am not affiliated with Actcom in any way.
> -- 
> 
>     Shaul Karl,    shaul @ actcom . net . il

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