> -----Original Message----- > From: Shaul Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:43 AM [snip]
Hello all You are talking about the SPAM problem but ignoring a bigger problem: The misuse of SMTP. This announcement is automatic; yet instead of replying to the envelope sender (a la RFC2821) it replies to the sender in the body. That's why the message got to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, if the sender IP address or the sender envelope would have been used for the test, Shaul's message wouldn't have been stopped. What could be even MORE conductive is a 5xy SMTP error message with the proper explanation - that would have prevented the need for the delivery of the entire message and the delivery of an additional bounce message back, while reducing the chance of a mail loop. This is extremely annoying, because many auto responders do that. It is the stuff mail loops are made from. -- Arik > Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Delivery-date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:37:23 +0300 > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=fetchmail) > by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.14) > id 19ilKk-0001Lq-SK > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:37:22 +0300 > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 > Received: from mail3.actcom.net.il [192.114.47.14] > by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.2) > for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sat, 02 Aug 2003 > 04:37:22 +0300 (IDT) > Received: from smtp1.actcom.net.il (mail.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.13]) > by mail3.actcom.co.il (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h721RU209100 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:27:30 +0300 > Received: from tmicha.net ([213.8.90.214]) > by smtp1.actcom.net.il (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id > h721SYr9030061 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:28:35 +0300 > Received: from tmicha.net [127.0.0.1] by tmicha.net [127.0.0.1] > with RAW (MDaemon.PRO.v6.5.2.R) > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:24:45 +0200 > Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 04:24:45 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Warning! Your message was rejected > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your message was delayed by Tmicha.net mail server. > The reasons for that might be the following: > > 1. Your ISP (Internet Service Provider) is unwilling to > cancel spammers' accounts > 2. Your ISP does not enforce/have Acceptable User Policy (AUP) > 3. Your ISP does not have anti-spam policy > > Message delay is necessary to verify that you are an actual > person and not a spammer. > > In order to deliver your message to the original recipient, > please RESEND the original message including the following words > in the 'Subject' field (including parentheses): > > (not spam) > > > Regards, > > Tmicha.net Abuse Dept. > > > Message delayed: > ---------------- > Subject: Re: Keysigning issues > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:13:49 +0300 > > > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > Script started on Sat Aug 2 05:25:33 2003 > $ whois Tmicha.net > > Found a referral to whois.namesdirect.com. > > > The data contained in the WHOIS database, while > believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is", > with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This > information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you > in obtaining information about domain name registration records. > Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not > limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or > collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any > purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and > solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written > permission of this company. By submitting an inquiry, you agree > to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. > Please limit your queries to 10 per minute and one connection. > > Registrant: > Slav BA > Confidential > Tel Aviv, 90210 > IL > > Registrar: NAMESDIRECT > Domain Name: TMICHA.NET > Created on: 07-MAY-01 > Expires on: 07-MAY-04 > Last Updated on: 05-MAY-03 > > Administrative, Technical Contact: > BA, Slav [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Confidential > Tel Aviv, 90210 > IL > 972-52-294612 > > > Domain servers in listed order: > NS1.MYDOMAIN.COM > NS2.MYDOMAIN.COM > NS3.MYDOMAIN.COM > NS4.MYDOMAIN.COM > > End of Whois Information > $ whois 213.8.90.214 > % This is the RIPE Whois server. > % The objects are in RPSL format. > % > % Rights restricted by copyright. > % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html > > inetnum: 213.8.0.0 - 213.8.255.255 > netname: IL-EURONET-RG-990603 > descr: Euronet Digital Communications > descr: Provider Local Registry > country: IL > admin-c: AR4994-RIPE > tech-c: AA957908-RIPE > tech-c: NS3998-RIPE > status: ALLOCATED PA > mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT > mnt-lower: AS5486-MNT > mnt-routes: AS5486-MNT > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19990603 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20000303 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20000407 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010302 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010515 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010531 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020419 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020423 > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020428 > source: RIPE > > route: 213.8.0.0/16 > descr: EURONET > origin: AS5486 > mnt-by: AS5486-MNT > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020428 > source: RIPE > > person: Amos Rosenboim > address: Internet Gold - LTD. > address: Alexander Yanai 1, > address: Petah-Tikva > address: Israel > phone: +972 39 399 703 > fax-no: +972 39 399 700 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > nic-hdl: AR4994-RIPE > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020206 > source: RIPE > > person: Nir Shamir > address: Alexander Yanay 1 > address: Petach Tikva > address: Israel > phone: +972-3-9399738 > fax-no: +972-57-975005 > nic-hdl: NS3998-RIPE > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030101 > source: RIPE > > person: Arik Alster > address: Ha'melacha 22 > address: Park Sibel, Rosh Haain > address: Israel > phone: +972-3-9020000 > fax-no: +972-3-9024222 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > nic-hdl: AA957908-RIPE > changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010607 > source: RIPE > > > $ exit > exit > > Script done on Sat Aug 2 05:26:06 2003 > > -- > > Shaul Karl, shaul @ actcom . net . il > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ********************************************************************** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. 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