On Friday 08 July 2005 10:05, Shlomo Solomon wrote:

> I now intend to clean everything up and make a few more tries. I'll try to
> keep acurate records of what I do and see if the log entries can be of any
> help.

OK - I did several experiments. Unfortunately, I was unable to reproduce the 
situation I mentioned befor when pilot-xfer worked 2 times in about 20 tries. 
But here are the results of my experiments. I tried 3 different USB sockets 
on my machine. Below I've written what I did each time and included syslog 
entries.


The first few experiments use the USB plug in the back of the computer

There are now no /dev/ttyUSB* or /dev/pilot devices
Plug in USB cable - ttyUSB0 and 1 and /dev/pilot now exist
try pilot-xfer -p /dev/pilot -l and push Palm hotsync button - no result


Jul  8 12:15:18 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using 
address 68
Jul  8 12:15:18 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:15:18 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:15:18 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:15:47 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 68
Jul  8 12:15:47 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:15:47 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using 
address 69
Jul  8 12:15:47 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:15:47 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB2
Jul  8 12:15:47 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB3


Ctrl-Z + cancel Palm hotsync
Palm timed out - /dev/pilot is gone but USB0 and 1 still exist


Jul  8 12:17:58 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 69
Jul  8 12:17:58 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2
Jul  8 12:17:58 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3
Jul  8 12:17:58 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: device disconnected


kill pilot-xfer - now USB0 and 1 are gone too
Turn on Palm + plug in USB + hotsync button - USB0 and 1 + /dev/pilot now 
exist
pilot-xfer gave error message  -  "error accepting data on /dev/pilot"


Jul  8 12:20:14 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using 
address 70
Jul  8 12:20:14 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:20:14 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:20:14 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:20:43 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: control timeout on ep0in


Palm timed out - devices are gone


Jul  8 12:22:25 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 70
Jul  8 12:22:25 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:22:25 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:22:25 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: device disconnected


Turn on Palm + plug in USB + hotsync button - USB0 and 1 + /dev/pilot now 
exist
hotsync button + pilot-xfer gave error message  -  "error accepting data 
on /dev/pilot"
the devices still exist but the the pilot-xfer process is gone


Jul  8 12:25:11 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using 
address 71
Jul  8 12:25:11 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:25:11 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:25:11 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:25:32 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 71
Jul  8 12:25:32 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:25:33 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:25:33 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:25:33 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using 
address 72
Jul  8 12:25:33 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:25:33 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:25:33 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:25:51 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: control timeout on ep0in


unplug cable - devices now disappear


Jul  8 12:26:48 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 72
Jul  8 12:26:48 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:26:48 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:26:48 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-3:1.0: device disconnected


from here I started using the front panel USB plug


plug in cable - devices 1 and 2 + pilot are created
pilot-xfer and hotsync button
Palm times out after 2 minutes  
Ctrl-Z  - devices and the pilot-xfer process still exist


Jul  8 12:28:20 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 73
Jul  8 12:28:20 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:28:20 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:28:20 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:28:43 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 73
Jul  8 12:28:43 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:28:43 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 74
Jul  8 12:28:43 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:28:43 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB2
Jul  8 12:28:43 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB3
Jul  8 12:30:54 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 74
Jul  8 12:30:54 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2
Jul  8 12:30:54 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3
Jul  8 12:30:54 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected


kill pilot-xfer  - devices disappear


Jul  8 12:31:56 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:31:56 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1


turn Palm on + plug in USB - no devices created
hotsync button - devices created
pilot-xfer - gave error message  -  "error accepting data on /dev/pilot"
the devices still exist but the pilot-xfer process is gone


Jul  8 12:33:24 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 75
Jul  8 12:33:24 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:33:24 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:33:24 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:33:51 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: control timeout on ep0in


turn Palm off and on again + hotsync button - no result


Jul  8 12:34:36 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 75
Jul  8 12:34:36 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:34:36 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:34:36 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:34:39 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 76
Jul  8 12:34:39 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:34:39 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:34:39 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:34:55 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 76
Jul  8 12:34:55 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:34:55 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:34:55 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:34:59 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:34:59 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:34:59 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB1


pilot-xfer gave error message  -  "error accepting data on /dev/pilot"


Jul  8 12:35:43 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: control timeout on ep0in


pilot-xfer + cancel Palm hotsync + Ctrl-Z - there are now devices 0,1,2,3  and 
dev/pilot points to 3
kill pilot-xfer  - 0 and 1 are gone - 2 and 3 still exist


Jul  8 12:36:48 shlomo1 kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), 
re-enabling...
Jul  8 12:36:48 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 77
Jul  8 12:36:48 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:36:48 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 78
Jul  8 12:36:48 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: device not accepting address 78, 
error -110
Jul  8 12:36:48 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 79
Jul  8 12:36:49 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: device not accepting address 79, 
error -110
Jul  8 12:36:54 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using 
address 80
Jul  8 12:36:54 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:36:54 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB2
Jul  8 12:36:54 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter 
now attached to ttyUSB3
Jul  8 12:38:08 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:38:08 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1


Palm times out - devices 2 and 3 disappear


Jul  8 12:39:05 shlomo1 kernel: usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 80
Jul  8 12:39:05 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2
Jul  8 12:39:05 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3
Jul  8 12:39:05 shlomo1 kernel: visor 2-2:1.0: device disconnected


For the next experiments I plug the USB into a USB hub


plug in cable - devices 0 and 1 and /pilot are created
hotsync button + pilot-xfer gave error message  -  "error accepting data 
on /dev/pilot"


Jul  8 12:40:04 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 10
Jul  8 12:40:04 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:40:04 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:40:04 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:40:05 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: USB disconnect, address 10
Jul  8 12:40:05 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:40:05 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:40:05 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:40:08 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 11
Jul  8 12:40:08 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:40:08 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:40:08 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:40:22 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: USB disconnect, address 11
Jul  8 12:40:22 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:40:22 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:40:22 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:40:23 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 12
Jul  8 12:40:23 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:40:23 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:40:23 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB1


Palm timed out - devices are gone


Jul  8 12:42:33 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: USB disconnect, address 12
Jul  8 12:42:33 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:42:33 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:42:33 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: device disconnected


plug in cable + hotsync button - devices 0 and 1 and pilot are created
pilot-xfer gave error message  -  "error accepting data on /dev/pilot"


Jul  8 12:43:34 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 13
Jul  8 12:43:34 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:43:34 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:43:34 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB1


unplug USB cable - devices disappear


Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: hub 1-4:1.0: port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), 
re-enabling...
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: USB disconnect, address 13
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using 
address 14
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter detected
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:44:00 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now attached to ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:44:45 shlomo1 kernel: usb 1-4.2: USB disconnect, address 14
Jul  8 12:44:45 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul  8 12:44:45 shlomo1 kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS 
converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul  8 12:44:45 shlomo1 kernel: visor 1-4.2:1.0: device disconnected



-- 
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
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