Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 20 Oct: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 05:15:38PM +0200, Herouth Maoz wrote: > > > (b) I don't want to be identified in any way shape or form with the image > > of a > > Haredi, Orthodox Jewish family. It contradicts my deepest values. > > I guess you won't be too fond of this one, then... http://jewishgeeks.net/
nope, nor do I really see the point in Wikipedia's entries of "List of Jewish Actors" and "List of Jewish Americans" (and several others) unless there were lists of Catholic, Protestant, German, Irish, Spanish, Italian etc. listed in the same way, but they are not. those lists were pulled off JewWatch and are serving the wrong purpose. I'll leave out the discussion of Haredi Penguins and how anthropomorphising is rediculous in this contents and so un-Jewish to do, I'll just mention the issue of Israel being made up of 15% non-Jews and some of them are on this list and in our community. But my main problem is that between my view on the FOSS world, with its openness and freedom of choice, and my impression of religious seperatism and world view that fears change and individualism (even if it has many other good sides), It just does not seem right to borrow imagery from that associacion world into this group. That, plus as Herouth said, It does not repersent me personally, nor do I want it to represent my nationality, and definitely not my choice of group affiliation. I don't dress that way, I don't think that way, and If you want to go further into the discussion, Many Haredim are anti-Zionists, some go as far as to not acknowledging the legitimacy of a secular state of Israel (which Egypt, Pakistan and Palestine already have), so being a zionist, a free man and a free thinker, I don't want those symbols on a group that advocates freedom of speach and action. -- On a need-to-know basis Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
