On 3/26/06, Uri Even-Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yonah Russ wrote:
> People that are interested in changing the size of the text on your
> website may be using screen magnifiers, or may be using personal style
> sheets to overide your styles. They may be hearing your webpage instead
> of reading it. They may have the pictures turned off.

I know.  But I want my website to look good even for these people.  I
don't want them to think that my website is ugly just because it looks
ugly on their browser, even though they could use Opera (for example) to
zoom it the whole site.  Compare it to a painting or a movie.  The
author or the painting or movie wants people to see his work as it is.
He doesn't want people to change the way it looks when they see it.  So
the same it with the web graphic designer and webmaster.  I checked (for
example) how my website looks with "no style" and it looks terrible.  I
don't want anybody to see my website this way!

But that's exactly the point. There are people that will see the site that way because they don't see at all or because they need very high contrast to read or for whatever reason. Do you think that blind people don't go to movies?

> The basic questions you need to ask are:
> 1) is all the information there without the pictures.
> 2) is all the information there without sound (if you have a narrarated
> flash intro- use subtitles)
> 3) is the information organized in a logical manner (using tables for
> design often breaks this)
> 3) lastly - does it look good in default installations of IE 5+, Mozilla
> 1.6+, Firefox, Opera, Safari

I can't check each page with all the 5 browsers.  Time is not infinite,
you know.  So I think there should be a standard - much like in PDF.  In
PDF you can't change text size, but you can zoom in and out.  I think
this is the correct way to handle it.

But zooming is not the only way people deal with web pages they view. It is very narrow minded to think that way. I hardly think that PDF is a format to be so amazed with. With proper web design you can do amazing things with your information. You can control the way a site is presented over various medium- aural, screen, print. You can link automatically to different translations. If you really want you can create multiple stylesheets for multiple "zoom" levels and create 3 different versions of the web page(but that again is missing the point a little). You can present the information in one visual order while presenting it in a different machine order- this is great for designing with screen readers in mind- you can move long lists of links after the content but display them visually before the content for sighted browsers.

Sometimes the information can't be there without pictures.  For example,
a website about paintings.  The pictures ARE the information!

Not true- a well built site about paintings would have a longdesc tag for each picture describing the painting, who painted it, points of interest, etc. Do you think that blind people don't paint?

 In addition, there is always the classic example of using colors like green and red to indicate good and bad or functional and nonfunctional. To a color blind person (8% of all males I believe) that has no meaning. A properly designed site needs to have text  along with the color to describe the same information ie. write the word 'Good' in green and the word 'Bad' in red.

yonah

Best Regards,

Uri Even-Chen
Speedy Net
Raanana, Israel.

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +972-9-7715013
Website: www.uri.co.il
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