On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Ori Idan wrote:
> Most of us have sites and systems on shared hosting even without shell
> access so I assume you can manage without root.
The thing is that they have:
1. Configuration panels that allow one to configure the Apache in some way.
2. Ability to upload PHP applications via FTP.
3. Interface to the MySQL databases. (mysqladmin, etc.)
On tux.hamakor.org.il, I don't have access to any web-served
filesystem-directory, nor the ability to configure Apache, nor can I set up
databases, nor can I point domains.
With adequate hosting options, I can host these services and domains on a
different server, but:
1. That would be going against Hamakor.
2. That's what tux.hamakor.org.il is for.
> I support that you will have root privileges but we have been in this
> discussion in the past, unfortunately the current admin will not give root
> to anyone.
Actually, he's given root privileges to two other people in his company. But
it wasn't enough to restore the old iglu.org.il services.
> I don't think we need many domains, we can put all services under
> hamakor.org.il There is no need I think for many domains.
> Let's ask all the list here what do you think. Do we still need iglu
> domain?
However we are going to organise our resources we should still have redirects
from the old URLs to the new ones. And domains don't hurt much. I don't see
why wiki.perl.org, wiki.python.org.il, wiki.osdc.org.il, etc. need to be
under hamakor.org.il. At the moment, all the old URLs don't point anywhere.
I don't need the iglu.org.il domain that much, but at the moment, I cannot set
up anything on tux.hamakor.org.il.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
P.S: Ori, you should know better than to top-post:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting
Please answer inline.
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 10:18 PM, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Ori Idan wrote:
> > > Why do you need root access in order to maintain these services?
> >
> > 1. I need to setup Apache "Alias"'es and other configuration directives.
> >
> > 2. I need to restart or reload Apache.
> >
> > 3. I may need to play with the filesystem permissions.
> >
> > 4. I need to setup SQL databases.
> >
> > 5. I may need to repair broken SQL tables.
> >
> > 6. Murphy.
> >
> > ------------
> >
> > Generally, the problem is not about not trusting me enough to have root
> > privileges on tux.hamakor.org.il, it's about the fact that the current
> > admins
> > don't like the past proliferation of domains and services that was
> > present on
> > Eskimo.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
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