On 25 August 2016 at 22:46, Zach Brown <zach.br...@ni.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 07:28:55PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 01:26:22PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 07:10:00PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:15:44PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
>> > > > In cases where the card is non-removable then polling doesn't make 
>> > > > sense.
>> > >
>> > > We have the non-removable property to describe that, so we can also look 
>> > > at that.
>> > >
>> > > > So it doesn't make sense to tie the test mode workaround into the 
>> > > > broken-cd
>> > > > property, even though I agree the nature of the defect fits under the 
>> > > > notion
>> > > > of the CD being broken.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe not solely on broken-cd, but I think that we dont necessarily need 
>> > > a new
>> > > DT property. As above, broken-cd, non-removable, and the compatible 
>> > > string may
>> > > together give the kernel enough information to choose the right thing to 
>> > > do.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Mark.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if I understand your suggestion completely. Are you suggesting
>> > setting both the broken-cd and non-removable properties? That would make 
>> > sense,
>> > but my understanding was that the two properities are not meant to 
>> > co-exist. In
>> > /Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt it states that only one 
>> > should
>> > be supplied. Don't the two properties conflict with each other?
>>
>> They do for the cases that exist today, but given we're updating the document
>> anyway, we could simply clarify the cases in which the two can sanely 
>> co-exist
>> (e.g.  for this particular IP block).

No, please!

Depending on the SDHCI variant there is already some difference on how
broken-cd is treated.

Let's not add yet another, as I think it will be too complicated for
people to understand the bindings.

>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark.
>
> That makes sense. I'll change the documentation for broken-cd and 
> non-removable
> in the IP specific document and change the driver accordingly.

I rather have a new DT binding specific for this case.

Perhaps there's a better name than "fake-cd". How about "force-cd", or
if someone can come up with a better name.

Kind regards
Uffe

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