On Saturday, June 22, 2013 06:05:50 PM Joe Perches wrote: > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 21:52 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Friday, June 21, 2013 07:27:22 PM Joe Perches wrote: > > > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 02:24 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > Namely, there are tools that use these messages to create > > > > suspend/resume time > > > > charts and they will stop working after the proposed changes. > > > > > > dmesg output isn't guaranteed to be stable. > > > > So? > > So even if new information was only appended to > the existing line, the script could break.
In this particular case, if it is written sanely, it won't. > If any script needs something stable it should > depend on information available through other > sources like trace or proc or sysfs. That is clearly impossible in this particular case, though. > Tools that use dmesg should adapt to whatever gets > thrown at it and handle the output from whatever > kernel versions the script supports. > > For instance, what happens to the script when > console_level is set to 1? You know, these particular messages are not printed without initcall_debug in the command line and the people who use them for diagnostics usually generate them on purpose and *then* feed the log to the script (or tool). > Requiring that no one can change a dmesg to > add or improve the content for readability > or intelligibility I think unreasonable. In general, you'd be right, but this is not a general case. Thanks, Rafael -- I speak only for myself. Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [email protected] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

