Linux-Misc Digest #391, Volume #20               Sat, 29 May 99 08:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  GNU Cgicc released (NEWS)
  Re: Diald dials out every (NEWS)
  Re: edit commands in linu (NEWS)
  Re: Commercially speaking (NEWS)
  Re: Port scanner (NEWS)
  Re: Commercially speaking (NEWS)
  Re: Port scanner (NEWS)
  LSH-0.1 (NEWS)
  Re: xterm & background pr (NEWS)
  Re: Good 10/100 Mb ethern (NEWS)
  Re: Netscape crashes and (NEWS)
  Re: Netscape crashes and (NEWS)
  Re: Commercially speaking (NEWS)
  Re: URGENT. Dead or life. (NEWS)
  Re: Netscape crashes and (NEWS)
  rpm not working (NEWS)
  Re: CD Burner (NEWS)
  Who sells a USB to SCSI a (NEWS)
  Re: A Capitalists view of (NEWS)
  Re: samba and kernel 2.2. (NEWS)
  Re: How to get multiple r (NEWS)
  choosing an OS for a reti (NEWS)

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNU Cgicc released
Date: 27 May 1999 19:47 GMT

I've just finished the first official GNU version of Cgicc, a C++ class library
for writing CGI applications.  Cgicc has been around since 1996 in various
incarnations, but was rewritten to use the C++ STL and rereleased under the GPL.
In brief, Cgicc does the following:

 - Parses both GET and POST form data transparently.
 - Provides string, integer, floating-point and single- and multiple-choice
retrieval methods for form data.
 - Provides methods for saving and restoring CGI environments to aid in
application debugging.
 - Provides full on-the-fly HTML generation capabilities, with support for
cookies and file inclusion.
 - Supports HTTP file upload.

The newest version is 3.0, and requires a C++ compiler supporting the C++ STL
(both gcc-2.8.1 and egcs-1.1.2 work fine).

The web pages for Cgicc are at http://www.gnu.org/software/cgicc/cgicc.html
Cgicc is available via ftp from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/cgicc/cgicc-3.0.tar.gz,
or any mirror (see list below).

If you have any questions regarding Cgicc, please contact me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

-Stephen


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diald dials out every
Date: 27 May 1999 19:32 GMT

On Thu, 27 May 1999, Bill Unruh wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>marco tephlant wrote:
>>> 
>>> Im pleased to say i've got IP masquerading and diald working this
>>> weekend,  one problem though is that diald spontaneously dials out.  I've
>
>Do you have named or gated running? Don;t.

Oops, I would recommend exactly the oposite.

We had the same problem. The cause was a combination of Samba
and the netbios(?) name-lookup from the Windows boxes. They do
a broadcast and ask for the name of another computer. Samba wants
to answer this request and asks the (external) name-server for an
answer (-> dialout).
We set up a nameserver and fed it with all local machines. That
solved the problem.

To figure out what really caused the dial-out you can use
tcpdump

Hope this helps,

Erhard

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: edit commands in linu
Date: 27 May 1999 20:47 GMT

What window manager are you using (in X11)?  It usually involves something
like highlighting and then clicking in the new window with your middle
mouse button but this can be changed and different window managers
definetely handle it differently.


Buschman wrote:

> This is farely simple question.  In windows my telnet sessions have edit
> commands(cut,copy,paste) however my linux telnet sessions do not.  How
> does one take text from a document or web browser, for example, and
> paste them into telnet?
>
> Mike B.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking
Date: 27 May 1999 19:17 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy David Damerell wrote:
> Erik Olson wrote:
>>Now this has confused me, making system calls to the Linux kernel by non
>>open source commercial programs should be illegal, or at least my
>>interpretation of the GPL makes me think so.  But apparently it is not.
>>I don't understand.  Can you explain why?

> Because Linus says you can. No, really.

Now Linus is a person I trust, so I don't have problem with that.

But what scares me is that the GPL says something about not being allowed
to modify any of its licensing terms.  Now I respect RMS's uncanny ability
to publicly give Bill the finger, but trust RMS I do not.  It is my
belief that his agenda calls for the death and destruction of the closed
source commercial software market as we know it today.  RMS's view is an
extreme view.  So it is my fear that it is only a matter of time before
RMS with the power of the FSF legal team crack down on all closed source
commercial software for the GPL'd Linux OS.  Their logic will be that any
program that runs on Linux must somehow call the kernel inorder to even
run, a kernel call is a library, and the GPL forbids closed source
programs from doing this.  If sucessful such a legal precedent would
render all closed source Linux software illegal.

Will this ugly scenario ever happen?  I hope not, but from what I
understand of RMS's agenda, this does seem a logical step once Linux
achieves critical mass.

Now why didn't Linus use the LGPL instead of the GPL?

erik olson
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Port scanner
Date: 27 May 1999 20:02 GMT

nmap is a good one.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, dumb questions and I'm sure I already know the answer.  We have
a
> customer who wants to have a static IP address, but we are concerned
> that he would try to run a server on his side and with a simple
dial-up
> account, that falls into a different payment bracket.  To make sure
that
> he doesn't run a server on his end and stays compliant with the
> agreement, I'd like to know a useful port scanner application out
there
> that would check the ports on an IP address. A GUI interface would
work
> well, but it doesn't have to be GUI.
> Thanks.
>
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking
Date: 27 May 1999 20:02 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erik, I recommend that you read the license again....
> less /usr/src/linux/COPYING.
> Read point 0 and 1.

Thanks for the /path.  I read 0) and 1) and I don't see how they relate
to GPL'd Linux Kernel calls being OK from closed source commercial apps.
Point 1) does say you can charge money for it, by my issue was about
the "closed source" nature.


> There is nothing wrong with writing commercial applications for linux
> just so long as you do not copy / use / base any code on the *source*
> *code* of a GPL program. There is *nothing* wrong with using a GPL
> program for what it is desiged for.

OK, if this is the case then how is calling a GPL'd Linux kernel function 
any different than calling a GPL'd library function?  Being called is what
they both were designed for.

RMS's main point in his "use GPL for libraries and not the LGPL" rant
was to lessen library usefullness for closed source commercial products.
This I believe was RMS's whole point of the article.


> If I were to wrap a GPL program in a
> non-gpl suite, there is nothing stopping me from charging for the
> wrapper, just so long as I do not charge for the GPL program.

Charging is OK, but that wrapper had better be open source and GPL'd!

So are you saying you can charge if you use GPL code and your app is
open source.  But you can't charge for the app if it isn't open, but
you can charge for the wrapper?  If that is what you are saying then
I missed that in my interpretation of the GPL.  Time for me to re-read
it for the Nth time today.

erik olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Port scanner
Date: 27 May 1999 20:47 GMT

"nmap"  works really well.

Mike


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LSH-0.1
Date: 27 May 1999 20:17 GMT

This is the first public release of LSH, a GPL:ed implementation of
version 2 of the Secure Shell protocols. Both a server and a client is
included.

LSH-0.1 supports the basic operations, such as key exchange,
encryption, compression, password authentication, and spawning of a
remote shell (including a pty). 

A lot of things are still missing. In particular, the randomness
generator is lousy (except possibly on systems with a good
/dev/random), and there's no hostkey database, leaving it open to
Man-in-the-middle attacks. So you don't want to replace ssh with LSH
quite yet.

You can get the source from

  ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/security/lsh/lsh-0.1.tar.gz
  http://www.lysator.liu.se/~nisse/archive/lsh-0.1.tar.gz

There's a mailing list for discussions about LSH and other free ssh
implementations, see <URL: http://www.net.lut.ac.uk/psst/> for
details.

If you would like to contribute, mail me or the list. If you would
like to help funding the development of LSH, please contact me.

Happy hacking,
/Niels Möller


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xterm & background pr
Date: 27 May 1999 18:47 GMT

Conway Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Running a terminal and involking a background process, say "foo &"
> should invoke foo in the background that is detached from the parent
> process.  Specifically, when I terminate the parent process, the
> xterm, foo should continue to run.  As a specific example, I run emacs
> in the background and then terminate the xterm from which it runs
> should not kill emacs.  Is there a setting somewhere that I am
> missing?  I am running RedHat 6.0 and have noticed this problem since
> 5.2 although the problem is getting more annoying.  I am also running
> GNOME and Metro-X.  I doubt a GNOME error because it predates my use
> of GNOME.


User Commands                                            nohup(1)



NAME
     nohup - run a command immune to hangups

SYNOPSIS
     /usr/bin/nohup command [ argument ...]
     /usr/xpg4/bin/nohup command [ argument ...]

DESCRIPTION
     The nohup utility invokes the named command with  the  argu-
     ments supplied.  When the command is invoked, nohup arranges
     for the SIGHUP signal to be ignored by the process.

-- 
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good 10/100 Mb ethern
Date: 27 May 1999 20:32 GMT

I purchased a couple of generic 10/100 Mbit ethernet cards for $19 hoping
they would work on Linux.  They have a RealTek 8139 chip on
them.  Luckily, there is a driver for that chip that works great.  I get
terrific throughput and there were no config hassles.  For $19, you can't
really go wrong.

Randy


"Timothy J. Lee" wrote:

> What are good 10/100 Mb ethernet cards for Linux?
>
> On kernel 2.0.36 with tulip.c 0.89H, I've tried the following:
>
> Netgear FA310TX revision C*:  DEC 21140 chip, works fine, but
>         no longer available.
> Netgear FA310TX revision D1:  Lite-On PNIC 82C169C chip,
>         identified as 82c168 by tulip driver, works sometimes,
>         but often unreliable (works reliably with the very newest
>         pn driver in FreeBSD).
> CNet Pro110B:  ASIX AX88140, identified correctly by tulip driver,
>         but does not work (works reliably with ax driver in FreeBSD).
>
> Other chips recognized by the tulip driver are the Macronix PMACs.
> Other common cards include the 3Com 3C905B and Intel EtherExpress
> cards, though these are considerably more expensive.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes and
Date: 27 May 1999 20:17 GMT

Jerome Mrozak wrote:
> 
> Do-Hoon Kwon wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >  Thanks for you reply.
> >  I have all the above items configured right as a matter of fact and I'm
> > sure that it's not netscape directly responsible for the hang. It might
> > have
> > triggered it, though.
> >  I mean a *complete* lockup. No response to keyboard, mouse, net
> > connection,
> > etc. It even doesn't response to ping.
> >  Come to think of it, I don't think I had this kind of lockups before I
> > added
> > a second NIC. Beginning to suspect tulip driver.... or my cheap PNIC
> > cards...
> >  Thanks.
> >
> > Do-Hoon Kwon
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux, but I thought you couldn't crash the
> machine with an application.  Or, putting it another way, what things
> (drivers, etc.) can crash a Linux system if written/installed wrong?
> 
> Jerome.

Obviously, anything that's installed in the kernel can crash the machine.
UNIX is not exactly a robust operating system and even mundane application
programs can hang the machine by tying up system resources. A classic case
is filling the disk up - that's why certain directories are put in separate
partitions; e.g /tmp, /var, /home, etc.  Network apps (netscape:-)can chew 
up kernel buffers under some conditions.  And don't talk to me about X-Windows.

/dan


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes and
Date: 27 May 1999 19:02 GMT


Do-Hoon Kwon wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  Thanks for you reply.
>  I have all the above items configured right as a matter of fact and I'm
> sure that it's not netscape directly responsible for the hang. It might
> have
> triggered it, though.
>  I mean a *complete* lockup. No response to keyboard, mouse, net
> connection,
> etc. It even doesn't response to ping.
>  Come to think of it, I don't think I had this kind of lockups before I
> added
> a second NIC. Beginning to suspect tulip driver.... or my cheap PNIC
> cards...
>  Thanks.
> 
> Do-Hoon Kwon
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux, but I thought you couldn't crash the
machine with an application.  Or, putting it another way, what things
(drivers, etc.) can crash a Linux system if written/installed wrong?

Jerome.


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking
Date: 27 May 1999 19:32 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ya, just like the Mozzila project was a "positive experience".
>> They only had like 36 active external developers vs hundreds of internal
>> developers.  My bet is that when Netscape went open source the folks at
>> Microsoft had a lot more than 36 people actively poking around and
>> inspecting it for ways to break it, Borg'ify it, and such.

> Actually, you'd lose: Microsoft employees were told to stay the hell
> away from it.  If they even inadvertantly used the same methods,
> Microsoft would be in a very nasty spot regarding copyrights.
> It would look very bad for Microsoft to be caught stealing code --
> especially Mozilla.

What would you expect Microsoft's official policy be?
This statement protects Microsoft from a legal point of view.

Of the companies I have worked for, when ever they made some sort of
protectionist corporate policy, it only means that things have gone
clandestine.  It might be their official coporate policy but is not
going to stop a manager from asking an employee to disobey it, you just
better not get caught.  Yes, its a sleazy corporate world out there.

Microsoft looking at the Netscape source is such an incredible business
advantage that I can't imagine for a second that it didn't actually happen.

erik olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: URGENT. Dead or life.
Date: 27 May 1999 19:32 GMT

Nuno Donato wrote:

Since this was marked urgent. I thought I should reply immediatly.

Get a dos boot disk and install loadlin.exe and a precompiled kernel
vmlinuz from one of the distribution sites. Add config.sys entries as
follows.

shell=a:\loadlin.exe a:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hdxx ro init 1

boot from the floppy. Alternatively you can chance a: to c: and it will
get fast as well.
[menu] in config.sys work pretty well to.

You can put in any kernel option you need following some disaster
situation. Even initrd files and root floppies if necessary.

> This is a dead or life situation.
> I am going to explain what happened to me, because I REALLY need help.
> I have changed a file, that contains info about the window-managers.
> Now, every time i run linux, XDM autostarts, i enter the username(root
> is the only user), and the password. But there must be an error some
> whera, because, no window manager run.
> And I am taken again to enter the name and password.
> How can I solve this. If i haven't XDM enabled, I could edit the file
> again from the console.
> My second question is, how can I turn off LILO?
>
> Please I really need help.


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes and
Date: 27 May 1999 22:17 GMT

On Thu, 27 May 1999 01:53:15 -0400, Do-Hoon Kwon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
> Netscape 4.6 on my RedHat 6.0 (kernel 2.2.9 SMP) sometimes hangs the
>whole machine! No, I should say the only times this occurs is
>when I'm on the net with netscape.

I've experienced X server lockups with Netscape 4.x and fvwm 2.0.46.
Both keyboard and mouse events were ignored, so my PC seemed to be
locked up, but the hard drive continued to work, so I think the Linux
kernel was still running.  I mention Netscape because that was the
program I was actively using when the lockup occurred, but the problem
went away when I downgraded to fvwm 1.24 and stayed away when I
reupgraded to fvwm 2.2.0.  (fvwm 2.0.46 was a beta release so it's
understandable that I had problems.)

I suggest that you try a different window manager and see if your
problem goes away.  Note that fvwm95 is based on a fvwm 2.0.something
beta release. 

> Does this sound familiar to anyone? 
> Thanks in advance.

>Do-Hoon Kwon
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Your configuration sounds a little different than mine, but I thought
I'd mention my experience in case it helps you out.  I hope it helps.

Dave
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm not working
Date: 27 May 1999 18:32 GMT

How does one install the following RPM:  exmh......src.rpm?  When I use
rpm -i exmh...., I get a return but nothing else -- no comments, no new
files, no error message.


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD Burner
Date: 27 May 1999 13:02 GMT

Can anyone give similar info for the external (parallel) model of the
same drive. I don't know if I can mount it, I works perfectly under
windoze 9x

Kernel 2.0.34, suse 5.2

Matthew

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Erb wrote:
> 
> I have a HP 7200i CD-Writer and would like to use it under Linux. I do
> not have the time to search all over the web for sites which explain how
> to set everything up for CD Burning so does anybody know about a site
> where it is all explained?
> 
> The device is IDE and I have been able to mount it easily.


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Who sells a USB to SCSI a
Date: 27 May 1999 12:47 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to know peoples experiences using USB devices
> with Linux. I'd like to know if I would have any problems
> connecting a parallel port printer and 3 SCSI drives to
> my computer's USB ports. Would I be able to use a parallel
> to USB adapter and a SCSI to USB adapter and just connect
> them both to the USB ports, or would they have to be
> connected to a hub? Would the SCSI drives each need a
> separate adapter connected to a USB port, or can they be
> daisy chained with SCSI cables with only the first drive
> connected with a USB adapter?
>
> Greg


I have been waiting for such device to show up, who makes them and
about what do they cost ? Are they yet supported in Linux (2.3.x that
is) (must be the easiest to implement beeing only a USB to SCSI
transfer?).


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of
Date: 27 May 1999 15:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marco Antoniotti  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But the big question remains. Why in Western Europe the violent, gun
>related, crime rates are still lower than in the US (or - at least -
>this is the perception that one has), and with much stricter gun
>controls laws in place?  Big question for sure, but avoiding it is
>unfair. :)

Well, as soon as anyone comes up with a testable hypothesis, I'm sure someone
will go after it.

My guess is that it's a combination of factors.  Cultural differences are
probably a big one... But look, in particular, at *very* heavily-armed
cultures, and you'll tend to see low violent crime rates also.

-s
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba and kernel 2.2.
Date: 27 May 1999 15:02 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey Greer) writes:

>Has anyone had the same problem?  Any suggestions?  For now I'm
>sticking with kernel 2.0.36.

Browsing the SuSE support database yesterday, I happened across
a problem report about Samba there.  I don't remember the details,
but I think they have a kernel patch.  It was in the SuSE 6.1 section
of the support database at www.suse.com.

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J.Otto Tennant                                                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get multiple r
Date: 27 May 1999 17:17 GMT

Fred and Mark,

 I appreciate both your comments and advise.  Mark you seem slightly
defensive, but don't worry.  I appreciate your advise and gave your
comments their due worth(this is not a slight at you).  Fred thank you
also.  What is the difference between a regular search and a power
search.  IE how do I do a power search?  I apoligize forposting trivial
questions but I have just gotten into Linux and find it so fasinating
that I can't seem to read fast enough to keep up with my interest.
Thanks fellas.


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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: choosing an OS for a reti
Date: 27 May 1999 22:17 GMT

Hello!

A friend  of mine received  a working, but too  old and slow  (by todays
standards) Sun workstation for free. The disk is dead, but we have a 1Gb
replacement. The machine has 16Mb of  RAM, is by itself diskless -- fits
entirely in what a casual observer would call monitor. I do not know the
model :(, but can get it if  needed. The disk we have is external. There
is  also  an external  CD-ROM  available.  No  floppy drives  in  sight,
though... The RAM can be increased. A tape drive is a painful option.

Being a FreeBSD fan/user myself,  I'd recommend {Open|Net}BSD for the OS
(FreeBSD/Sparc is  not ready yet), but  I know Linux works  on Suns too.
Students can also get cheap (or free?) Solaris, AFAIK...

The requirements  are to be stable  (of course), have PPP  software, and
run  Netscape...  I'd prefer  to  set  the disk  up  at  home, using  my
FreeBSD/i386 machines, but I'm not sure I  can make it bootable by a Sun
box.

Thanks for your comments!

 -mi


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